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      12-14-2017, 10:51 PM   #199
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Looks decent. The rear side windows look a bit small though
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      12-15-2017, 04:04 AM   #200
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Poor scoobysaurus...he posted that a year ago!

SUV, SAV, Crossover, Ute...they are all utility whales...on or off-road...doesn't matter what you call them. The X7 is a "LUV"...Luxury Utility Vehicle.

To get back on topic and not hash out a post from a year ago...this mule looks so much more promising...including the (hopefully) chrome Armageddon and "hockey stick" delete. That's how bad the concept was.
Lets hope its not a LAV... Luxury Activity Vehicle

Seriously though, shaping up well, I think its outline looks better than the G Class or whatever the Merc is called these days.
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      12-15-2017, 09:07 AM   #201
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Well I got a BMW, it's as big as a whale and it's about to set sail!
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      12-15-2017, 09:46 AM   #202
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Even so... while colloquially... many people may call a convertible, a CAR... indeed... the name convertible still applies. When searching on a web site.. convertibles are often still listed separately.
Right, because a convertible is a subcategory of car.

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"The only way you'll go wrong is by using the term "crossover" to define a body-on-frame SUV. Examples of such vehicles include the Chevrolet Tahoe, Ford Expedition and Mercedes G-Class. Those are all still SUVs in the original sense of the term -- and in those cases, "crossover" doesn't apply."
Exactly. And the reason for this is that "crossover" has become a subcategory of SUV, just as "body-on-frame SUV" is. So any crossover can properly be called an SUV, just as I said and as the article also makes clear.

Therefore, getting back to the original post that sparked the debate (a very old post at that, as kozzi points out), the X7 can indeed properly be called an SUV (though, as noted previously, BMW doesn't even do that - only Jason, the author of the text in the post did, and he did so appropriately).

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As a matter of fact, if you go back to my original post, you will see that I had edited it for clarity and the examples I used are the same ..
Great! Glad the we can finally end the debate and move on.
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      12-15-2017, 10:29 AM   #203
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      12-15-2017, 11:35 AM   #204
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Thats all i see.... Can they make that grill any f%^#ing bigger??
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If they will keep those huge nostrils they will get an award for sure. A bad one...
I still hope that there is some common sense left in the design department.

Just looked at the new X3 yesterday. Nice car overall and more pleasant as a whole , but not sure about the nostrils. Every time I said "yeah, nice, but those grills..."
I personally like the way the new X3 looks but can see how some might find the "nostrils" too large. Sometimes design has to give in a little to engineering as the large grilles on the G01 are active.

Could they have been smaller? Yes...but the G01 has the best Drag Coefficient in its class with a 0.29 CD. For reference, the Macan is at 0.37 CD.

Couldn't get the time stamp to work. The Active Grilles start at 4:15.

The X7 will most likely have the same Active Grille setup.

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I personally like the way the new X3 looks but can see how some might find the "nostrils" too large. Sometimes design has to give in a little to engineering as the large grilles on the G01 are active.

Could they have been smaller? Yes...but the G01 has the best Drag Coefficient in its class with a 0.29 CD. For reference, the Macan is at 0.37 CD.

Couldn't get the time stamp to work. The Active Grilles start at 4:15.

The X7 will most likely have the same Active Grille setup.

I like it, don't get me wrong, is maybe one of the nicest BMW's right now with no headlamps that are stretched to the grills, no hood line, not to busy, well balanced. As a whole the vehicle is really nice, but the nostrils are just where I can accept them; a little bit larger and wouldn't be acceptable for me. I am waiting for the new X4.
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Unlike the camo pics of the new Mercedes GLS, at least this doesn't look like a stretched minivan. Its got nice proportions to it.
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Looks to have a great amount of leaning in the corners. Hopefully they will have a fix for this before it goes on sale
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