[kemalican]

I got pinged that orders for 2025 XB7 will be open soon, which I am considering for a lease. However my dealer says no discounts/incentives available. Any dealers in pacific northwest area that offer discounts/incentives?

[BMW5and7]

BMW will likely change the SOP for new year models from April back to June/July as they have always been. The wait for XB7 is long, so it’s not that uncommon to expect that if you order one now, you might need to wait until then.

Having said that, BMW has made a lot of weird decisions last minute, and they might still continue releasing the new year models (aka 2025) in April of the previous year for the X7 just like they did last year.

The reason they did it last year is because they were on a rush to switch from the 2023 LCI model year after only a few months from releasing it because it was lacking a few fundamental features that they wanted to release with the LCI, but they didn’t have them all ready on the formal LCI reveal/SOP date. Hence the decision to start the newer (2024) model year in April 2023 along with all the new features and updated service back. Then again in June/July they completed the full round of hardware/software updated for MY24. I do expect the X7 going forward to switch to it’s normal release timeline (June-August of each year), but again given BMW’s weird decisions lately, they might still do the weird April thing for SOP of new year model.

In summary: If I were you, I would just order whatever is available now… 2025 will be same exact as 2024… X7 has settled on it’s final and fully cooked version starting 2024 in April of 2023. 2025 will be the same as 2024 year. Good luck.

[bemagrp]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

BMW will likely change the SOP for new year models from April back to June/July as they have always been. The wait for XB7 is long, so it’s not that uncommon to expect that if you order one now, you might need to wait until then.

Having said that, BMW has made a lot of weird decisions last minute, and they might still continue releasing the new year models (aka 2025) in April of the previous year for the X7 just like they did last year.

The reason they did it last year is because they were on a rush to switch from the 2023 LCI model year after only a few months from releasing it because it was lacking a few fundamental features that they wanted to release with the LCI, but they didn’t have them all ready on the formal LCI reveal/SOP date. Hence the decision to start the newer (2024) model year in April 2023 along with all the new features and updated service back. Then again in June/July they completed the full round of hardware/software updated for MY24. I do expect the X7 going forward to switch to it’s normal release timeline (June-August of each year), but again given BMW’s weird decisions lately, they might still do the weird April thing for SOP of new year model.

In summary: If I were you, I would just order whatever is available now… 2025 will be same exact as 2024… X7 has settled on it’s final and fully cooked version starting 2024 in April of 2023. 2025 will be the same as 2024 year. Good luck.

In your opinion, when new, fully redesigned XB7 will be available?
Came from 2021 to 2023 and I completely satisfied with changes they did, but ready to trade it in for absolutely new, Alpina XB7.

Thank you in advance.

[Orient330iNYC]

Next gen x7 is supposed to be out fall 2027 as MY28.
Note that the v8 is possibly going to be dropped in favor of a 6cyl hybrid. If the x7 loses the v8, the xb7 is likely to shift as well.
The next generation of X5/X6/X7 (G65/G66/G67) will likely lose the V8 engine. Instead, M60e xDrive (same B58-based powertrain as G60/G70 60e's) will be the top model. Model designations will follow the same new structure as the G45.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by bemagrp

In your opinion, when new, fully redesigned XB7 will be available?
Came from 2021 to 2023 and I completely satisfied with changes they did, but ready to trade it in for absolutely new, Alpina XB7.

Thank you in advance.

I answered that before... from one of my previous posts (not that the XB7 usually takes another 6-12 months before it becomes available when a new generation is released.

The full electric X7, will be labeled as iX7 (formally will be G67), and will be in production starting 08/27 through 11/34, fully electric.
Expect some spy shots on the roads around Q2–Q3 2026. We will see the X5 EV (iX5) a bit sooner though, production starting 8/2026.

The EV variant will share the same body and hardware with ICE variants just like we are seeing now for i5, i4 and i7. Unfortunately we might not see the V8 again on the ICE variant, but that’s yet to be 100% confirmed. B58 engine will be the top ICE model. The XB7 will continue to be a standalone trim-level and it may continue to be the only X7 with the V8, but there is not a single discussion or decisions made within BMW corporate yet for the XB7 future with regards to the new generation. I will post as more info become available.

[XB7]

I ordered my 24 XB7 in Feb 23, took delivery 12/23
Leases will be insane if even available.
Discounts? I doubt you will see any as it is very limited production and the orders are usually closed within a few weeks of opening, a couple people here have even posted they had to pay a premium.

[SMKS]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

Next gen x7 is supposed to be out fall 2027 as MY28.
Note that the v8 is possibly going to be dropped in favor of a 6cyl hybrid. If the x7 loses the v8, the xb7 is likely to shift as well.
The next generation of X5/X6/X7 (G65/G66/G67) will likely lose the V8 engine. Instead, M60e xDrive (same B58-based powertrain as G60/G70 60e's) will be the top model. Model designations will follow the same new structure as the G45.

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

The real car enthusiasts will just shift over to the x5 competition that will be the only close thing that can come close to what x7 m60i offered or xb7 alpina. If that don't work then expect to see switch to g63 amg as that will offer 7 seats. All depends what happens. All this is still speculation and people's guesses.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by SMKS

The real car enthusiasts will just shift over to the x5 competition that will be the only close thing that can come close to what x7 m60i offered or xb7 alpina. If that don't work then expect to see switch to g63 amg as that will offer 7 seats. All depends what happens. All this is still speculation and people's guesses.

Mercedes is apparently ending the V8 in the -63 models. replacing it with a turbo 4 (!!) or turbo 6 supplemented with electric motors. its happened on the C63 and E63, the other models that still use V8s will probably only keep them till they are refreshed.

likely the next gen X5M will be a tuned I6 with hybrid tech as well. the upcoming euro emissions standards make it likely the last hurrah of the V8s will be coming soon. but we'll find out in a few years.

[XM Label]

Originally Posted by kemalican

I got pinged that orders for 2025 XB7 will be open soon, which I am considering for a lease. However my dealer says no discounts/incentives available. Any dealers in pacific northwest area that offer discounts/incentives?

Good luck getting discount or incentive. There is often a list of buyers at your dealership who are willing to pay full price or more to have this low volume SUV. If you tell them you want a discount they will move to the next buyer willing to pay more. Simple Supply and demand. Better luck getting a discount if dealer has one on lot that a buyer backed out on but you may not get all the options you want.

[Orient330iNYC]

the XB7 is not like the regular models, dealers dont get allocations for alpinas without a customer sold order in the order bank, so supply is 1:1 with demand. and even with the order in the bank, the dealer might not get an allocation.

your only chance for a discount would be a customer sold order that someone backs out on

[BMW5and7]

Just FYI .... For the Alpina in most cases it makes more sense to own/buy them than leasing them. They keep their value like crazy and don't depreciate much. U can get crazy high trade-in offer down the road on an Alpina, making the cost of ownership much lower than leasing unlike the regular X7. Check the 2019-2021 XB7 now... they still sell for super crazy high numbers until now!

Do you own math though, to each his own financial details that could make one approach better than the other.

[xlover]

Considering BMW bought alpina outright I doubt it will disappear. It fits a much needed "we dont really want to have a full M version but want to do something at the next tier up" Considering how fast they are snapped up the demand is clearly there.

The question will be powertrain... the M60 (M70 by then??) is slated to be the 565 hp plug-in hybrid B58. Will the alpina get a slightly high power version of that I6. which doesnt seem to exist in the portfolio yet, OR will it get the plug-in hybrid V8 from the XM, upcoming M5, and presumably the next gen X5M

[BMWMN1971]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

the XB7 is not like the regular models, dealers dont get allocations for alpinas without a customer sold order in the order bank, so supply is 1:1 with demand. and even with the order in the bank, the dealer might not get an allocation.

your only chance for a discount would be a customer sold order that someone backs out on

Don't think that is true. My dealer had a XB7 sitting on their floor during the last Holiday season. I asked my SA and he said they had ordered it and someone would for sure buy as a Christmas gift. That was definitely a dealer order and not ordered by any customer. Car was there for maybe 2 weeks before it was sold.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by BMWMN1971

Don't think that is true. My dealer had a XB7 sitting on their floor during the last Holiday season. I asked my SA and he said they had ordered it and someone would for sure buy as a Christmas gift. That was definitely a dealer order and not ordered by any customer. Car was there for maybe 2 weeks before it was sold.

maybe the dealer can order them for stock? or they ordered it P1, then changed it after it arrived. dunno.

but from a dealer:
https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&highlight=xb7
alpinas are allocated on an as ordered basis, not just allocated like a regular x7. so i doubt there will be much discounting

[calbears]

Originally Posted by BMWMN1971

Don't think that is true. My dealer had a XB7 sitting on their floor during the last Holiday season. I asked my SA and he said they had ordered it and someone would for sure buy as a Christmas gift. That was definitely a dealer order and not ordered by any customer. Car was there for maybe 2 weeks before it was sold.

It is true. No allocations for Alpinas. You put one in the order bank, you get one as long as there are available production slots.

Dealers can order vehicles through the order bank.

[BMWMN1971]

Originally Posted by calbears

It is true. No allocations for Alpinas. You put one in the order bank, you get one as long as there are available production slots.

Dealers can order vehicles through the order bank.

Now, not trying to be controversial here but during that conversation with my SA he mentioned the XB7 has the one of the worst depreciation of any BMW. He said you have to buy the car to enjoy and not worry about money as it is probably one of the worst financial decisions one can make. The value of the car drops like a rock as soon as you take delivery. 🤷🏻*♂️

[bemagrp]

Originally Posted by BMWMN1971

Now, not trying to be controversial here but during that conversation with my SA he mentioned the XB7 has the one of the worst depreciation of any BMW. He said you have to buy the car to enjoy and not worry about money as it is probably one of the worst financial decisions one can make. The value of the car drops like a rock as soon as you take delivery. ����*♂️

Don't get offended, but your SA is crook same as many BMW dealers.
My experience: used to have 2021 Alpina Blue, after 2 years of 3 year lease came to dealership to trade my car for 2023 Alpina green, got offered 86k, it was exactly payoff. Being dealer myself( not BMW, independent for 24 years ) sold it for 97500. Do simple math and don't listen to "involved" parties.

[XM Label]

Originally Posted by BMWMN1971

Now, not trying to be controversial here but during that conversation with my SA he mentioned the XB7 has the one of the worst depreciation of any BMW. He said you have to buy the car to enjoy and not worry about money as it is probably one of the worst financial decisions one can make. The value of the car drops like a rock as soon as you take delivery. 🤷🏻*♂️

It has one of the lowest residual values of any BMW that’s why your SA says it depreciates a lot because it does! If one can safely afford an XB7 and is financially sound you shouldn’t be worried about price or what residual values are.