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      07-13-2022, 03:22 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by pikkagtr View Post
I would tend to agree
However less government is always better than more government
The reason why the 2nd exists is to protect us from people who want to protect us from ourselves
I would argue governments have held us back more so than advancing us forward
Remember when practicing science was blasphemy?
Remember when free thinking women were burned at the stake
Remember when the world was flat?
Remember WW2? When the government decides what was good for the people's Deutschland?
Yea I'd rather have ME decide for myself
Remember when the Cuyahoga river regularly caught on fire until a government agency was created to stop companies from dumping waste in an irresponsible manner just because it was cheaper/easier?

That's why people are for reasonable regulation, this all or nothing attitude shows a profound lack of nuance.

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Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS View Post
West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency ruling by SCOTUS requires regulations like this to go through legislative process so they're accountable to voters. That's effectively a death nail for this type of crap in the United States. Americans won't stand for it.
What? That case was about carbon dioxide emissions from existing coal and natural gas fired power plants.

It has literally nothing to do with vehicles.



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