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      01-24-2020, 07:33 AM   #18
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I didn't know you could get a spare on the 2nd gen Q7!

For the x7, spare is no brainer. If you really need the space in that spot, just take it out if you need it.
There is no spare option in any Audi vehicles as of the 2019 model year. I shopped the Audi before I bought my BMW X7. There is no place to store a spare tire in the 2019 or 2020 Q7 and you can't order a spare either. Plus, you can only buy an Audi with Run Flat tires.

All these dumb ass automobile manufactures are doing away with spare tire options. Their claim is you don't need one with run flat tires. Plus they say most people don't know how to change a tire anyway. BULL COCKY!!!

I would like to see someone drive away with a side wall tire rupture on a run flat tire! Oh... and lets see someone with that flat find anyone to come out and rescue their ass in the middle of no where on a road trip in Montana or Wyoming when there is no cell service to call for help!

Just remember, no one needs that spare tire until they need that spare tire. Then, when they do need it they won't have it. If all the owner does is drive around town and the suburbs then this is probably less of an issue. I won't even mention the near double cost of run flats and their crappy ride and noise compared to conventional tires.

I take lots of road trips to the middle of no where. So, no spare tire option... No deal for me!
You, my friend, are part of a dying breed when it comes to the idea of the basic need and utility of a spare. And I completely agree with your logic for having a spare, and I will always get one if I can too. On a recent cross-country move from WA to VA, I got a flat on my SUV somewhere in the middle of the country. Fortunately, I was at a gas station to do the change - with the added bonus of having my teenage son with me to teach him the process.

Car manufactures have done their homework and the simple fact is the overwhelming majority of drivers today don't want to deal with changing a flat tire - and current technology easily caters to that desire (tech that was not available way back in the day). They would rather call AAA (or equivalent), or drive on a RFT to the nearest service center and have someone else fix it. And they are willing to pay the extra cost of RFT tires too (although RFT are becoming cheaper now just based on the growing volume in the market).

Gotta love progress. Although for me (and a shrinking minority), there are some old school concepts I still believe in. Having a spare and the training to change a flat is still an important skill set to me because you never know. But then I also made my son learn to drive a stick, and the car I bought him when got his license was a 6MT (I can be real old school about some things.... ).
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