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I was at a private event and was able to see the X7 up close and personal.
My initial thoughts (and those of the wife):
Overall I was pleasantly surprised by the X7. BMW has a winner and while I no longer need an SUV of that size, I do wish it was an option a few years ago. We'll probably get another X5 in 9 months. Although, the X7 is tempting and who knows if the wife will want something bigger. I just don't know where we would park it around here where parking spaces are not as generous as other parts of the US. The question will be who will buy it. I can see this as a real estate car, a limo, and maybe a family car. As a family car, the doors will make it a bit of a challenge for families with smaller kids. While loading the car with carseats will be easy. Younger kids are likely to let the rear barn doors fly open and take out another kid walking on the other side of the sidewalk at the school drop off line. The middle seats also power slide forward to allow the people in the third row exit the car. I don't think smaller children will have the patience to wait for the seat to slide forward and you'll have the little ones jump over and stepping all over the middle seat to quickly exit the car. The cargo area wasn't very large with the third row seats up. It's similar to some minivans where you have room for groceries but any trips to Costco may require laying one of the third row seats down. My 100 lb dog would be pretty cramped in the back with the three rows if I removed the cargo cover. The 7-Series hasn't been a big seller but I can see BMW selling quite a few more of the X7 in the US. I can hardly imagine the X7 in the streets of Berlin or Paris. |
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Thanks for your thoughts, Pictor. Can you elaborate on the 2nd row legroom, please? You say the seats were fixed in place, does that mean the driver's seat could not be slid forward or back for you to evaluate the 2nd row legroom in different conditions? On paper, there's only 0.2 inches more legroom than an X5.
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10-28-2018, 07:35 AM | #4 |
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Thanks! I just need to evaluate the 2nd row legroom for myself. On paper, it doesn't look good, but need to try it out and see what adjustments are possible.
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10-31-2018, 05:45 PM | #5 |
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2nd Row Seating Legroom
Thanks for the detailed info on your in-person observation. I am counting on the X7 captain's chairs offering more legroom for my two school age children. They come to carpool with lunch boxes, water bottles, musical instruments, projects and roller backpacks. It's all too much for our current setup in an X5. I'm really hoping that the X7 will be the answer.
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I am going to one of these events next week. Private showing of the X7 and new 8 series. The invite said that cellphones will have to be checked at the door because the X7 has not been 'officially unveiled' yet.
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Please specifically check out the legroom in the 2nd row, with the driver's seat slid fully back. Can the 2nd row seats be slid any further back to create more 2nd room legroom?
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11-04-2018, 01:19 PM | #11 |
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Roger. Not that the seats slide, we know they do. But from the specified 37.6 inch legroom, (only 0.2 more than the G05) can the seat slide BACK for more 2nd row legroom? Or only forward, to give more 3rd row legroom?
All indications are that is only slides forward, that everything about the X7 caters to the 3rd row, not the 2nd, which at its best, is only equal to the G05, no more. |
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11-05-2018, 09:30 PM | #12 |
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This car most certainly does not prioritize the 3rd tow. It’s cramped compared to GLS current gen |
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11-12-2018, 01:03 PM | #14 |
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I respectfully disagree. The X7 is 9 inches longer than the G05. However, the front row legroom is exactly the same as a G05. (39.8 inches) The 2nd row legroom is the same as the G05. (37.6 inches vs 37.4 inches) BMW made the X7 9 inches longer than the G05, and did not put ANY of that extra room into the first or (especially) the 2nd row legroom. It went to the 3rd row.
Now, in the sedan lineup, if you are looking at the 5-series, and want more 2nd row legroom, going up to the 7 series sedan increases 2nd row legroom by a whopping 8 inches!!!! (44.4 inches vs 36.5 inches) In making the 7-series sedan, BMW makes the 2nd row the priority compared to the 5-series. Comparing the X7 2nd row legroom to other full/jumbo-sized SUV's of various pricings, smallest to largest, we have: X7: 37.6 inches Land Rover: 37.6 inches Mercedes GLS: 38.5 inches Dodge Durango: 38.6 inches Audi Q7: 38.8 inches Cadillac Escalade: 39.0 inches Chevy Tahoe: 39.0 inches GMC Yukon: 39.0 inches GMC Yukon XL: 39.7 inches Chevy Suburban: 39.7 inches Toyota Sequoia: 40.9 inches Bentley Bentayga: 40.9 inches Infiniti QX80: 41.0 inches Ford Expedition: 41.5 inches Lincoln Navigator: 42.3 inches The new, bigger, BMW X7, has the smallest 2nd row legroom of all of them! I do not mean to say that BMW has made the X7 3rd row 7-series-like luxury legroom, and it's better than the 2nd row. Rather that, when designing the X7, BMW expanded the G05 X5, and instead of giving more luxury to the 2nd row, decided to make the priority putting all extras into the 3rd row. Thus, the X7 really is a G05 with a moderate-sized 3rd row. Last edited by Wild Blue; 11-12-2018 at 01:40 PM.. |
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I know that the captains chairs are full power and move back and forth like the front seats. |
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Unfortunately, indications are that the choice of 2nd row seating does not change the legroom at all. Time will tell. Last edited by Wild Blue; 11-15-2018 at 10:34 AM.. |
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LOL. Yeah, the Cullinan does indeed look great. I couldn't find rear legroom specs when I was doing my research, but it's far more luxurious than any other SUV on the market. Sadly, even if I sell both kidneys, liver, and maybe even my brain, I don't think I'd be able to afford the $300,000 price tag.
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My kids and I checked it out in Los Angeles, it does have huge leg room but not really more than a 7 Series long wheelbase. [IMG][/IMG] |
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