[dontuseblinkers]

Originally Posted by salenad

I'm in sales and have a Mineral Grey CPO 2021 M340i xDrive for sale
$58.9k
9k miles

all match your list minus color, Adaptive M Suspension and Cognac interior (this has black vernasca leather with blue stitching)

Personally I heard mixed reviews on the Adaptive M Suspension and if it's needed, I don't have it in mine and honestly the suspension is no complaints from me

Driving Assistant Pro
Harmon Kardon
Parking Assistant Package
Head Up

https://www.bmwmonterey.com/certifie...1c549fd5e1.htm

I just received my m340i. I test drove ones without adaptive suspension and I have it say that it is the most important option. Spending $60k on a car and not having a $400 option that makes your ride quality noticeably better is bonkers.

I was in the same situation seeing these crazy used car prices. I ended up buying new and got 10% off msrp. Fully loaded every single option m340i for 60k. Msrp was 68k.

Just buy new. The wait is worth it.

[B58-M340iX]

Originally Posted by salenad

I'm in sales

Personally I heard mixed reviews on the Adaptive M Suspension and if it's needed, I don't have it in mine and honestly the suspension is no complaints from me

Sounds about right

[dontuseblinkers]

Originally Posted by B58-M340iX

Sounds about right

the only people saying adaptive suspension isn't worth it is sales people.

I was at 2 dealerships and both the guys tried to feed me the same line that adaptive suspension isn't worth it. They have never heard that BMW is a rough ride. They had adaptive suspension and then took it off their cars.

You ask any of the people who bought a car and they also mention that it is the most important feature in the car in terms of ride quality.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by dontuseblinkers

the only people saying adaptive suspension isn't worth it is sales people.

I was at 2 dealerships and both the guys tried to feed me the same line that adaptive suspension isn't worth it. They have never heard that BMW is a rough ride. They had adaptive suspension and then took it off their cars.

You ask any of the people who bought a car and they also mention that it is the most important feature in the car in terms of ride quality.

Oh, yes. And they will also tell you that heated seats aren’t needed in a convertible or they are easy to add later. LOL.

[tturedraider]

This one is right here on Bimmerpost and it is as well optioned as they come.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2076820

[bavarianride]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

This one is right here on Bimmerpost and it is as well optioned as they come.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2076820

This one has no adaptive suspension.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by bavarianride

This one has no adaptive suspension.

Unless my memory fails me adaptive suspension is part of the ZTK.

edit: I guess my memory fails me. Well, at least it leads me to the F30 Track Handling pkg. I see the M Sport suspension listed on the window sticker. Funny though, Bimmer.work doesn’t show the 704 suspension, but Mdecoder does.

OP, personally I think with a rwd M340i you’d be okay without adaptive suspension, but I have to admit I’m speculating. Unfortunately, I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a rwd M340i.

[komoornik]

What does the RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension that's either quite nice or unbearable? 🤔

[koopa]

Originally Posted by komoornik

What does the RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension that's either quite nice or unbearable? 🤔

I think on the older cars there was a noticeable difference in suspension between RWD and xDrive cars. I don't think that's really the case in the G series cars.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by komoornik

What does the RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension that's either quite nice or unbearable? 🤔

1. XDrive adds 125 pounds of weight.

2. XDrive adds $2,000 in cost.

That’s carrying one extra adult passenger with you at all times and a couple of grand in potential performance upgrades. There is definitely a point to RWD.

[blue_seather]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

XDrive adds 125 pounds of weight

He was asking what did the car being RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension. In my negligible experience, heavier cars have always driven more comfortably. So xDrive adding more weight should actually be beneficial to comfort, not vice versa.

I'd say that RWD makes sense if you want to toss the car around often or/and live in a place where the roads are perfect and track-like, and where you have not even the slightest hint of winter, and preferably rain too, throughout the year. In all other scenarios, it's most definitely worth every penny. But I still fail to see how it has anything to do with the suspension setup.

[Sam Tango]

Originally Posted by LopsidedLand

I've been searching for almost 3 months, regularly checking BMW's site, Carmax, and Car Gurus for a fully loaded M340i, which is starting to seem impossible to find

-Used, $60k or less
-Active Driving Assistant Pro and parking assist package
-Adaptive M Suspension
-Heads up display and Harmon Kardon stereo
-Cognac interior
-Tanzanite blue or black exterior, but at this point I might take whatever and just get it wrapped

The biggest issues seem to be that both the Adaptive M Suspension and Driving Assistant Pro are individually hard to find, and almost impossible to find combined. (maybe they were cut out from a lot of models due to COVID shortages - ?).

Then add in my desired colors and I literally have not seen a single car for sale anywhere in the USA that is what I'm looking for.

At this point, it seems like I could either
A) Go to up to a 5 series like a M550i instead because those seem to usually be better-optioned than 3 series
B) Build a new M340i, which would run almost $70,000 for my desired build and approach M3 territory
C) Buy another beater and keep waiting for the perfect M340i to pop up
D) Give up on BMW and go with an S5 or Genesis G70 or something

I'm just wondering if anyone else has ever been in a similar situation, and if you waited or just ended up settling for something close enough.

D.

[Nettles]

This is for sure a troll post

[cbrownmdr1492]

PM me if interested
I am toying with the idea of selling mine, based in SoCal

Its a 2020 M340 with 40k, I bought it when my lease was up last year

I did not go too heavy on the options when I ordered it thou...

Tanzanite w/ Mocha
Parking assistance package
19" 792M wheels
Adaptive Suspension
Heated Seats
Ambient lighting

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Unless my memory fails me adaptive suspension is part of the ZTK.

edit: I guess my memory fails me Well, at least it leads me to the F30 Track Handling pkg. I see the M Sport suspension listed on the window sticker. Funny though, Bimmer.work doesn’t show the 704 suspension, but Mdecoder does.

OP, personally I think with a rwd M340i you’d be okay without adaptive suspension, but I have to admit I’m speculating. Unfortunately, I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a rwd M340i.

I believe that's only true for 2024MY and later. First year of LCI it was optional as was the case for pre-LCI.

My early build RWD M340 which I have had almost 5 years now doesn't have adaptive suspension but I am ok with that. Others say it's harsh so to each his own.

[Plimmie]

Originally Posted by EXE46

I believe that's only true for 2024MY and later. First year of LCI it was optional as was the case for pre-LCI.

My early build RWD M340 which I have had almost 5 years now doesn't have adaptive suspension but I am ok with that. Others say it's harsh so to each his own.

OP is still MIA …

However see the window sticker of my 2024 car. No ZTK but with adaptive suspension.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by komoornik

What does the RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension that's either quite nice or unbearable? ��

Originally Posted by koopa

I think on the older cars there was a noticeable difference in suspension between RWD and xDrive cars. I don't think that's really the case in the G series cars.

Prior to the G20 the sport suspension was not available on 3ers with xDrive. xDrive meant you got a suspension that was softer and raised by 10mm compared to the standard suspension and raised 20mm compared to the sport suspension, which was 10mm lower than the standard suspension.

I’ve owned four rwd 3ers with the static sport suspension and never felt like it was too firm or harsh. I bought a 2020 M340i xDrive with the static sport suspension not expecting anything to be different. I was wrong. The moment I started driving down the street leaving the house of the guy I bought the car from I immediately thought the suspension was too harsh. Because, I never thought about the sport suspension being any different than all my other 3ers I actually didn’t drive the car until after we completed the deal. I’ve never done that before, but it just didn’t seem necessary. I certainly won’t ever do it again.

This is my theory, but I can’t say I know it for a fact. I think xDrive (probably affected by the extra 125 lbs) makes the static sport suspension harsher than it would be with rwd. I can’t say that for a fact, because I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a rwd M340i with the static sport suspension. Before I bought my xDrive M340i I had driven a lot of xDrive M340i’s at BMW driving events, but they all had the adaptive suspension.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by blue_seather

He was asking what did the car being RWD or xDrive have to do with the suspension. In my negligible experience, heavier cars have always driven more comfortably. So xDrive adding more weight should actually be beneficial to comfort, not vice versa.

I'd say that RWD makes sense if you want to toss the car around often or/and live in a place where the roads are perfect and track-like, and where you have not even the slightest hint of winter, and preferably rain too, throughout the year. In all other scenarios, it's most definitely worth every penny. But I still fail to see how it has anything to do with the suspension setup.

Weight impacts handling. Many (most) here want to toss the car around.

[aidanmurphy]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Prior to the G20 the sport suspension was not available on 3ers with xDrive. xDrive meant you got a suspension that was softer and raised by 10mm compared to the standard suspension and raised 20mm compared to the sport suspension, which was 10mm lower than the standard suspension.

I’ve owned four rwd 3ers with the static sport suspension and never felt like it was too firm or harsh. I bought a 2020 M340i xDrive with the static sport suspension not expecting anything to be different. I was wrong. The moment I started driving down the street leaving the house of the guy I bought the car from I immediately thought the suspension was too harsh. Because, I never thought about the sport suspension being any different than all my other 3ers I actually didn’t drive the car until after we completed the deal. I’ve never done that before, but it just didn’t seem necessary. I certainly won’t ever do it again.

This is my theory, but I can’t say I know it for a fact. I think xDrive (probably affected by the extra 125 lbs) makes the static sport suspension harsher than it would be with rwd. I can’t say that for a fact, because I’ve never had the opportunity to drive a rwd M340i with the static sport suspension. Before I bought my xDrive M340i I had driven a lot of xDrive M340i’s at BMW driving events, but they all had the adaptive suspension.

I have a RWD 2020 M340 with the static sport suspension. It is definitely stiff but I would not say too stiff. I purposely looked to avoid the adaptive suspension as I did not want to deal with issues later down the line and I may want to swap springs at some point.

That being said, I live in North GA where the roads are pretty good and I am also 25 so I am more tolerant to a rough ride. You definitely feel the entire road and potholes are enough to make you think you've just broken a tie rod or something.

While it is very stiff it is exactly what I want from a sports sedan and I do not think it is too stiff for daily driving UNLESS your roads are terrible. When I have to go downtown for work in ATL it is pretty bad.

[koopa]

To me, stiffness isn't the reason the M-Sport Suspension isn't comfortable. It's because it is extremely busy AND stiff. It's always unsettled and doesn't really dampen anything. Every bump, crack, and imperfection is sent through the cabin making the car constantly jostle side-to-side and back and forth.

Adaptive suspension is still on the stiffer side, but it actually dampens everything well which makes the ride more comfortable and compliant.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by koopa

To me, stiffness isn't the reason the M-Sport Suspension isn't comfortable. It's because it is extremely busy AND stiff. It's always unsettled and doesn't really dampen anything. Every bump, crack, and imperfection is sent through the cabin making the car constantly jostle side-to-side and back and forth.

Adaptive suspension is still on the stiffer side, but it actually dampens everything well which makes the ride more comfortable and compliant.

Great description.

[B58-M340iX]

Originally Posted by aidanmurphy

I purposely looked to avoid the adaptive suspension as I did not want to deal with issues later down the line and I may want to swap springs at some point.

Dinan springs work well with adaptive suspension. Unless you're replacing the shock, the adaptive suspension stiffens or cushions your ride constantly in 'ms' throughout your drive. Adaptive suspension should be on the list as something that contributes to the ride/driving experience (aka Ultimate --Driving-- Machine )