[Smithcinema]

Honestly was waiting for the 23 to purchase a x7 I actually loved the new front , but while I was waiting I sort of fell in love with the Cadillac Escalade, the new interior of the x7 is just not luxurious to me the giant light up x7 on the dash is a no go for sure and the new screen I do not like at all yes it's bigger but looks Asian to me don't belong in a x7

[Smithcinema]

Originally Posted by Doctor///M

I see your view, and to me the cars just aren't appealing or eye catching on the road anymore. But then, there's always a car for everyone including this monster of a vehicle.

Originally Posted by Doctor///M

I see your view, and to me the cars just aren't appealing or eye catching on the road anymore. But then, there's always a car for everyone including this monster of a vehicle.

I agree I have only owned a bmw for over 30 years my 19 x7 is the last making a move to the escalade, I know nothing built like a bmw and will never find a replacement on quality but the interior I could not live with and the wheels on bmw these days belongs on a Kia

[Rayien]

nice looking overall package

[EyeBalz]

Am I the only BMW X enthusiast who is horrified by the loss of all of our control buttons on the dash?! I've been told that the new X5M will have this same dash configuration, and I am not happy. If I want touch screen controls, I can buy a Range Rover or an Audi or a Mercedes. I hate this!

[DocWeatherington]

It should be good... Curious to see in the end the "m" version of this new motor

[UpstateCP]

Originally Posted by playin_harsh

I can understand the idea of pre set buttons and headlights. But your frustration with climate controls is laughable because the climate controls will be on the bottom of the screen permanently. They're always accessible! This forum needs to chill with judging practicality. You have to experience the vehicle and give it a try. BMW have always been better than any other brand in terms of infotainment and practicality. I remember people falling in love with S class because of their "big screen". Everyone is hating on the new S class and their big screen because it's overly sophisticated (loads of submenus and no trackpad or controller) and not practical in terms of visibility (sun glare and coating). Instead, we should really be talking about BMW losing their minds with designing front-end of their vehicles. I drive a 2019 X5 with lease ending in 2023 and I hope to god they better not make it worse for next year.

I don't remember people falling in love with the new S class. I remember people having the same critiques about why everything has to go touchscreen with a full on tablet size display a la Tesla. From what I've seen with iDrive 8 going all touchscreen is the same thing you mentioned, overly sophisticated menus and submenus for basic everyday tasks. I don't know why you assume this will be any more intuitive or user friendly than any other fully touch system.

[playin_harsh]

Originally Posted by UpstateCP

I don't remember people falling in love with the new S class. I remember people having the same critiques about why everything has to go touchscreen with a full on tablet size display a la Tesla. From what I've seen with iDrive 8 going all touchscreen is the same thing you mentioned, overly sophisticated menus and submenus for basic everyday tasks. I don't know why you assume this will be any more intuitive or user friendly than any other fully touch system.

As long as BMW keeps integrating their iDrive controller to the infotainment, I think the future isn't bad. BMW has done the most with creating intuitive systems. As far as I'm concerned, it's definitely better than Mercedes and Audi systems.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by Smithcinema

Honestly was waiting for the 23 to purchase a x7 I actually loved the new front , but while I was waiting I sort of fell in love with the Cadillac Escalade, the new interior of the x7 is just not luxurious to me the giant light up x7 on the dash is a no go for sure and the new screen I do not like at all yes it's bigger but looks Asian to me don't belong in a x7

Um, the Escalade pretty much has the same screen setup.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by UpstateCP

I don't remember people falling in love with the new S class. I remember people having the same critiques about why everything has to go touchscreen with a full on tablet size display a la Tesla. From what I've seen with iDrive 8 going all touchscreen is the same thing you mentioned, overly sophisticated menus and submenus for basic everyday tasks. I don't know why you assume this will be any more intuitive or user friendly than any other fully touch system.

I don't find a lot of people at all who love the new S-Class. It doesn't look anywhere as near as good as the last few generations.

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by Tr4ckD4ys

Actually they do show them turned on. There are several pictures on the website. Below just one of them. The DRLs are some of the worst looking in BMW history - no more angel eyes, curved eyes, round eyes… none of it. Just two lines. Not distinctive in any kind of way.

Oh no, not a good look. But hey, it is a lot cheaper for them to make two lines, so that is nice...

[11001X101]

My pure observation... not BMW specific... same reaction most of the time... Current/older version folks will always praise for their models and bash the new incoming ones. When the sale numbers prove otherwise and they will say people have no taste and/or not enthusiastic enough. And the split headlight was first out long before those Korean cars.

[mpop302]

Everyone is talking about the front

But does anyone else see qx80 lights in the back?

[Delrazdan]

Any idea when us ordering guide will be posted?

[Game]

Looks good in what I presume is Brooklyn Gray.

[SW19]

It’s a shame that they put those dual headlights on the design because the updated M Sport front bumper looks really good.I’m still not a fan of the new flat screen but at least from a design perspective they decided to block the gap between the screen and the dash on the passengers side with what appears to be a front airbag.The lit up M logo and carbon fiber trim on the dash also look great.I also like how they incorporated the M logo on the side of the front fender shadowline trim on the X7 M60i.It looks very sporty along with the M mirrors.Non frozen Marina Bay Blue Metallic is definitely the color to get.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by SW19

It’s a shame that they put those dual headlights on the design because the updated M Sport front bumper looks really good.I’m still not a fan of the new flat screen but at least from a design perspective they decided to block the gap between the screen and the dash on the passengers side with what appears to be a front airbag.The lit up M logo and carbon fiber trim on the dash also look great.I also like how they incorporated the M logo on the side of the front fender shadowline trim on the X7 M60i.It looks very sporty along with the M mirrors.Non frozen Marina Bay Blue Metallic is definitely the color to get.

Will those sport seats be available in the us ?

[SW19]

Originally Posted by jphcbpa

Will those sport seats be available in the us ?

They don’t seem to be listed in the BMW Canada X7 ordering guide so they probably won’t be available in the US or Canada.They are probably only available in Europe and maybe some other markets.It actually doesn’t make sense because it’s not like BMW is selling an X7M in the US and Canada that has the M seats.They should offer them as an option.

[mitch57]

Few to NO functional buttons for things like climate control and memory buttons.

I despise talking to inanimate objects. I'm also not playing the touch screen game of having to drill down through a bunch of menus on a freaking touch screen while I take my eyes off of the road to adjust the heat or change the entertainment system. This no auto industry direction is a TOTAL deal breaker for me.

Looks like I'm screwed and will have to keep the cars I have now running for the foreseeable future..

I'm not going to buy a car that forces me to talk to it or use a touch screen just to adjust the climate control system.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by mitch57

Few to NO functional buttons for things like climate control and memory buttons.

I despise talking to inanimate objects. I'm also not playing the touch screen game of having to drill down through a bunch of menus on a freaking touch screen while I take my eyes off of the road to adjust the heat or change the entertainment system. This no auto industry direction is a TOTAL deal breaker for me.

Looks like I'm screwed and will have to keep the cars I have now running for the foreseeable future..

I'm not going to buy a car that forces me to talk to it or use a touch screen just to adjust the climate control system.

I am not totally sold on it either.

But taking a step back outside my own emotional reaction, this is exactly what blackberry users were saying not too long ago….

[huskerdoc2020]

Originally Posted by xlover

I am not totally sold on it either.

But taking a step back outside my own emotional reaction, this is exactly what blackberry users were saying not too long ago….

That was 15 years ago and the change was necessary and didn't involve life or death situations when viewing.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by huskerdoc2020

That was 15 years ago and the change was necessary and didn't involve life or death situations when viewing.

Hmm… I think if you are taking a "life or death" angle then the bmw solution is superior as it encourages using voice control requiring no attention off the road. So if "least risk" is your priority then I would think you should be on the side of no buttons?

My thinking is that i prefer the familiar muscle memory of going to a physical button (despite the cost in attention) and do not really want the annoyance of adapting to another process.

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Originally Posted by xlover

Hmm… I think if you are taking a "life or death" angle then the bmw solution is superior as it encourages using voice control requiring no attention off the road. So if "least risk" is your priority then I would think you should be on the side of no buttons?

My thinking is that i prefer the familiar muscle memory of going to a physical button (despite the cost in attention) and do not really want the annoyance of adapting to another process.

I find muscle memory easier to operate than voice memory in a vehicle… it's like putting sentences together requires more concentration than moving your fingers lol