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View Poll Results: Are you PPF-ing your G87?
No 79 29.04%
Yes, partial 116 42.65%
Yes, full 77 28.31%
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      07-26-2023, 11:41 AM   #45
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I selected partial because it's not 100%, but the only things missing are part of the roof, part of the doors, trunk, part of the rear bumper and tail lights. Some of the best money I've ever spent.
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Cost x benefit ratio is unfavourable in my opinion. Prepaying for repainting needed panels ahead of time while having a car with visible film on top.

But I fully understand why folks do it.
Fully agree. Spending over 10% of the car's value to wrap it in a condom seems a bit silly but the detailing industry has been very successful at pushing these products (along with the $1500 "ceramic" coating - just lol).

So what if the car gets a few rock chips. When you go to sell it in 4-5 yrs, no one is going to pay materially more because it's got PPF on it. On an M2, there's a good chance to never recoup any of the money spent on PPF.

In AZ, it'll probably yellow in about 4-5 yrs and would have to come off anyway.

If it was a $150K - $200K+ car, maybe I could see it since that's a different market.
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      07-26-2023, 02:00 PM   #47
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Fully agree. Spending over 10% of the car's value to wrap it in a condom seems a bit silly but the detailing industry has been very successful at pushing these products (along with the $1500 "ceramic" coating - just lol).

So what if the car gets a few rock chips. When you go to sell it in 4-5 yrs, no one is going to pay materially more because it's got PPF on it. On an M2, there's a good chance to never recoup any of the money spent on PPF.

In AZ, it'll probably yellow in about 4-5 yrs and would have to come off anyway.

If it was a $150K - $200K+ car, maybe I could see it since that's a different market.
I guess it just depends on the person. I don't do it so I can sell it for more. I do it because I will fixate on every little ding, knick, and chip in my car. This gives me peace of mind at least somewhat.
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      07-26-2023, 05:48 PM   #48
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I went ahead and answered the poll, but don't have a G87. If this is a G87-specific poll, then it should be posted in the G87 forum. If a general poll, then I would respectfully suggest rewording your post.
This was originally posted in the G87 forum. No clue why the Admin moved it to the general space...
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      07-27-2023, 09:15 PM   #49
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I just picked up my M2 after PPF and they did the track pack, which included the portion above the doors (which I was unaware of), but only half way...leaving a visible seam...should I just leave it (it annoys me), or have them remove it?
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I've never PPF'd any of my cars but am considering it for my incoming G87. For current owners, what have you done?
My first PPF full front and Ceramic everything else's was my first X5M, My M8 Front PPF and Ceramic everything else's My M5 Full PPF. I would never ever have a car again without PPF in the minimum of the full front and Rockers. IMO
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I've never done it but I've ordered mine in BSM and am planning on doing PPF on the entire car.

Not even sure I want to know what it's gonna cost, but I can't bear to see that paint get rock chips and scratches as the years go on.
Full PPF in my parts is about 6-7,500
I Prefer Stek PPF and Finlabs Ceramic Heal Plus..also XPEL top tire ceramic tint on ALL GLASS.
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Don’t agree with the idea of PPF, so not doing anything other than coating.
If you like rock chips and scratch's sure don't PPF or Ceramic, your car your $.
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How’s the PPF holding up after getting the chips itself?
Most High end PPF will self heal when it gets hot, worst case is if the damage won't self heal have that section replaced under warranty.
STek PPF is my #1 XPEL PPF is #2 (Both Self Heal) . NEVER get XPEL ceramic as it dosnt self heal, and don't waste $ on ceramic coating PPF.
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I'm in the same boat and cannot justify the price.
I dont understand, your paying north of 130k for the car but won't spend a extra 3-7,500k to keep the paint mint, actually better then mint.
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I can't justify the price for my usual ~3year car ownership. I'd rather spend the money on some other upgrade for the car.
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I dunno why ppl have to slag other ppl for their choices haha. Just do your own thing. I'm only gonna explain my reasons for NOT doing PPF: I admire ppl who wanna keep their cars 'perfect' but it's a losing battle, eventually there will be *something* that will damage the paint and then I'd be feeling like crap having spent 4 or heck maybe 5 figures on the thing. Same goes for those lift sys costing 5 figures, one scratch and it's over lol.
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I would not do full, only what’s front facing. The one time I got the rear done, someone tapped my bumper and it looked worse. Film tore, dirt accumulated underneath and looked terrible… I eventually had to pull off the whole film to get the bumper resprayed.

After that experience I just do bumper, hood, mirrors and pillars. Side skirts is nice but only worth it if you do it day 1.
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      08-15-2023, 05:34 PM   #58
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I dont understand, your paying north of 130k for the car but won't spend a extra 3-7,500k to keep the paint mint, actually better then mint.
I'd much rather spend that money on consumables.

I don't care for rock chips and scratches. I see my vehicles as tools for enjoyment and do not care about keeping it 100% pristine. That does not mean that I will neglect it, but the usual dings/scratches that all come with car ownership do not faze me.
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I plan to keep my car for the long haul, and if I knew the PPF would last the life of the car, I would have done it. However, I couldn't justify the thousands of dollars initial outlay for what is essentially an uncertain benefit (how long will it last, when will I have to reapply, limited protection for large objects, horror stories on install, marginal benefit to resale value, cost to reapply if damaged, and potential damage to car's paint, however unlikely, when it does eventually need to be removed and replaced). It's worth noting I don't put a lot of miles on the car, so that also plays into the value equation. If you're piling on highway miles, it may be worthwhile. There is also no price you can put on piece-of-mind, so I can't fault either path here.

And no, I don't have a G87, so I didn't vote in the poll, but I'm frankly not sure why the specific car in question matters, y'all G87 snowflakes
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With a custom paint like tanzanite blue, which I absolutely adore, combined with the fact that the provincial govt here doesn't use salt but instead uses rocks the size of boulders on the roads in winter, PPF was a no brainer for me.

I went with Xpel Ultimate Plus last year, all around the X5, on every panel except the roof. And a year later I can honestly say that it was worth every damn cent. There's not a single scratch anywhere, no swirl marks, and the X5 looks factory fresh after every single wash. It is driven mostly on the highway over long distances so I was expecting to see some rock chips and dents in the PPF, especially on the front bumper and the hood, but absolutely nothing so far.

And the best part is that it's self healing. So even if I see minor spider webbing in the PPF, as a result of my own actions with the microfiber cloths because I always use a touchless wash, all I need to do is park it in the sun for a few minutes and all the swirls disappear and the film looks mint. Couldn't be happier
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Would you guys PPF a leased car? I was thinking of doing partial only.
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Would you guys PPF a leased car? I was thinking of doing partial only.
I would not.
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Would you guys PPF a leased car? I was thinking of doing partial only.
Absolutely not, unless you are planning on buying it at the end.
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Most High end PPF will self heal when it gets hot, worst case is if the damage won't self heal have that section replaced under warranty.
STek PPF is my #1 XPEL PPF is #2 (Both Self Heal) . NEVER get XPEL ceramic as it dosnt self heal, and don't waste $ on ceramic coating PPF.
XPEL Ultimate Fusion, which is what I believe you're referring to, is self-healing and ceramic coating at least a couple layers on PPF is still worth it.

If you're referring to just the regular XPEL Fusion, that's just a ceramic coating (not PPF) and no ceramic coating self heals
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XPEL Ultimate Fusion, which is what I believe you're referring to, is self-healing and ceramic coating at least a couple layers on PPF is still worth it.

If you're referring to just the regular XPEL Fusion, that's just a ceramic coating (not PPF) and no ceramic coating self heals
That's not correct. There are ceramic coatings on the market that claim to self-heal. How well they actually perform is a different discussion.
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That's not correct. There are ceramic coatings on the market that claim to self-heal. How well they actually perform is a different discussion.
Yep, probably adding "properly" would have been better. They can claim it "self heals" but the ceramic coating actually comes off. You may still have beading/sheeting properties but it'll be greatly reduced in the areas that are affected.
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