[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Holy crap. I totally glossed over it when it came out because they said they weren't bringing the DSG cars to the US.

Will dig deeper on the used market for these.

Anyone have one or know of their reliability?

It is an amazing car. Stock, it is a little underwhelming, but it doesn't take much to bring it to life.

APR Tune
MSS Springs & sway bars will dial out all understeer and prevent front brake dive. Stock magnetic shocks are top notch and perform just as good as a coil-over system
Extreme performance tires

You are good to go. The only weak point in the car is the clutch if you do a lot of high rev. clutch dumps.

Yes, it losses a little up top near redline (less so though with the APR tune), but if you get in the habit of short shifting by about 800 RPM, it is a rocket and all the power is usable.

Because of the amazing magnetic shocks on the car it feels very sporty and like a proper sports car should, very buttoned down and it never feels unsettled or under damped. It has a "special" feel to it. It is pretty light as well and very tossable.

It is a car that gets better and feels more special the more you drive it. They call it the baby R8 for a reason.

I will also add that when I needed a true 4 seater and was shopping for a replacement for the TTRS, I test drove an 15' M4 and after getting back into my TTRS (not stock, see signature) from the M4, I didn't feel I was leaving anything on the table performance wise.

I ended up getting the S4 to replace it and as you can see below, that didn't last long and I ended up in the M3 afterall, but anyways you get my point.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

It is an amazing car. Stock, it is a little underwhelming, but it doesn't take much to bring it to life.

APR Tune
MSS Springs & sway bars will dial out all understeer and prevent front brake dive. Stock magnetic shocks are top notch and perform just as good as a coil-over system
Extreme performance tires

You are good to go. The only weak point in the car is the clutch if you do a lot of high rev. clutch dumps.

Yes, it losses a little up top near redline (less so though with the APR tune), but if you get in the habit of short shifting by about 800 RPM, it is a rocket and all the power is usable.

Because of the amazing magnetic shocks on the car it feels very sporty and like a proper sports car should, very buttoned down and it never feels unsettled or under damped. It has a "special" feel to it. It is pretty light as well and very tossable.

It is a car that gets better and feels more special the more you drive it. They call it the baby R8 for a reason.

I will also add that when I needed a true 4 seater and was shopping for a replacement for the TTRS, I test drove an 15' M4 and after getting back into my TTRS (not stock, see signature) from the M4, I didn't feel I was leaving anything on the table performance wise.

I ended up getting the S4 to replace it and as you can see below, that didn't last long and I ended up in the M3 afterall, but anyways you get my point.

The S4/S5 cars to me are comparable to the 335/435 BMWs, so I totally am with you on that point.

So what kind of performance does the tuned TTRS put down? Not just compared with the M4 but with the C7 Z51 or 997 turbo?

I haven't driven a TTRS. I've only been in a TTS and it was really blah. I think they're two totally different animals, right?

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

The S4/S5 cars to me are comparable to the 335/435 BMWs, so I totally am with you on that point.

So what kind of performance does the tuned TTRS put down? Not just compared with the M4 but with the C7 Z51 or 997 turbo?

I haven't driven a TTRS. I've only been in a TTS and it was really blah. I think they're two totally different animals, right?

I don't recall anymore the exact figures, but I believe the APR Stage 1 on 91 octane gives you about 420HP and 400lb. ft of TQ. The car weighs in less than 3300 lbs, I think around 3200 and some change if I remember right.

With a stage 2 you can get closer to 450hp.

The beauty of it is that because of the AWD, its all usable power (even in 1st gear). I have caught a few sport bikes off guard with it although abusing the clutch a little.

Also since its AWD, the nannies don't kill the fun. It is quicker than my M3 off the line by a good margin because of this. The M3 would catch up and pass it higher up near triple digit speeds though

And like a said before, in the corners it's so planted and stable because of the magnetic shocks. You just can't upset the chassis in this car, so much more stable feeling than the M3. It is an easy car to drive fast and to its limits.

[Mywifes335]

Looks like the poll has spoken:

1. 997 Turbo
2. GTR
3. Corvette Z51 (now GS might be in the running)

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Looks like the poll has spoken:

1. 997 Turbo
2. GTR
3. Corvette Z51 (now GS might be in the running)

I don't think you are getting the new GS for 60k.

I would say at least 65k moderately equipped.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by nholmes

These are total sleepers. I've heard good things about them on track.

Not a sleeper to any enthusiast.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Looks like the poll has spoken:

1. 997 Turbo
2. GTR
3. Corvette Z51 (now GS might be in the running)

What year 997T?

C7 GS will start at about $69k

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

What year 997T?

C7 GS will start at about $69k

Looking at early run 997s. My biggest gripe is no PDK.

The C7 GS.... Will probably have to wait a year and pick up a CPO. I like the Z51 but it just doesn't look as good as the GS. It's like a batmobile Z06.

[nholmes]

This thread still going?

OP did you find something yet?

[Mywifes335]

Haven't found anything yet.

[mremg]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I don't recall anymore the exact figures, but I believe the APR Stage 1 on 91 octane gives you about 420HP and 400lb. ft of TQ. The car weighs in less than 3300 lbs, I think around 3200 and some change if I remember right.

With a stage 2 you can get closer to 450hp.

The beauty of it is that because of the AWD, its all usable power (even in 1st gear). I have caught a few sport bikes off guard with it although abusing the clutch a little.

Also since its AWD, the nannies don't kill the fun. It is quicker than my M3 off the line by a good margin because of this. The M3 would catch up and pass it higher up near triple digit speeds though

And like a said before, in the corners it's so planted and stable because of the magnetic shocks. You just can't upset the chassis in this car, so much more stable feeling than the M3. It is an easy car to drive fast and to its limits.

Yep. TT RS is a hidden gem and only a few if any know about it. I can throw the car into any corner at ridiculous speeds and it is highly stable. Also, that 5-cyl engine makes glorious sound.

Mk3 TT RS is expected to come to the US again in 2017-18 and this time around it might be DSG in the states too. May be that might fit the bill?

[Mywifes335]

Will definitely keep an eye out for the new TTRS. It's one I wrote off before you guys advised.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Will definitely keep an eye out for the new TTRS. It's one I wrote off before you guys advised.

Good call!!

Like I said before though, stock it's a little underwhelming, but it doesn't take much to get it to Rockstar status.

After having my M3 for about 4 mths now, there are times I wish I still had the TTRS. There are things it does way better than the M.

Don't get me wrong, the M has its good points too, especially on a windy mountain road, but on a day to day basis , the TTRS was much more enjoyable and special feeling.

[mremg]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

Good call!!
After having my M3 for about 4 mths now, there are times I wish I still had the TTRS. There are things it does way better than the M.

Can you explain a bit more? I always think about getting an M4/Cayman S after the TT RS and I'm always curious to know what previous owners think.

[FriskyDingo]

TT RS would be sweet. Completely forgot about those.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by mremg

Can you explain a bit more? I always think about getting an M4/Cayman S after the TT RS and I'm always curious to know what previous owners think.

The TTRS has the following over the M3

way better traction (obviously, AWD)

Much better damping/suspension

Way more planted/stable feel

More tossable


The M3 beats it in...

Upper RPM pull (less drop-off near red-line)

More front end grip

A little higher limits (lateral Gs)

Less turbo lag

Better cooling (ZERO heat soak)

A DCT tranny that always keeps the turbo's spooled in-between shifts

A true 4 seater

A better balanced chassis (although that narrows a lot with a couple of cheap mods on the TTRS)

IMO, the M3 feels like a regular sedan with some go fast parts added to make it more sporty. The TTRS feels like a dedicated sports car and just has that "special feel" to it. This is just feel though, not limits, as when pushed hard the M3 is the more capable of the two

The TTRS is a car that is easy to drive fast and does so in a controlled / buttoned down way.

As opposed to the M3 , which feels under dampened, and squirrelly with traction issues and an overly intrusive stability/traction control system.

[mremg]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

The TTRS has the following over the M3

way better traction (obviously, AWD)

Much better damping/suspension

Way more planted/stable feel

More tossable


The M3 beats it in...

Upper RPM pull (less drop-off near red-line)

More front end grip

A little higher limits (lateral Gs)

Less turbo lag

Better cooling (ZERO heat soak)

A DCT tranny that always keeps the turbo's spooled in-between shifts

A true 4 seater

A better balanced chassis (although that narrows a lot with a couple of cheap mods on the TTRS)

IMO, the M3 feels like a regular sedan with some go fast parts added to make it more sporty. The TTRS feels like a dedicated sports car and just has that "special feel" to it. This is just feel though, not limits, as when pushed hard the M3 is the more capable of the two

The TTRS is a car that is easy to drive fast and does so in a controlled / buttoned down way.

As opposed to the M3 , which feels under dampened, and squirrelly with traction issues and an overly intrusive stability/traction control system.

Thanks for the detailed post. Definitely helps to make my choice in the future.

[Aqid]

Tuned RS5? Should be able to make 500whp I believe..

[sirdaft1]

What about a used V8 Vantage? They've become stupid affordable, phenomenal V8 rumble (without the Corvette midlife crisis or Porsche delta bravo image), and classy as anything on the road. A sub 25k mile '06-'08 V8V can be had for between $42-60k. One good example :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aston-Martin...m=152009612633

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by sirdaft1

What about a used V8 Vantage? They've become stupid affordable, phenomenal V8 rumble (without the Corvette midlife crisis or Porsche delta bravo image), and classy as anything on the road. A sub 25k mile '06-'08 V8V can be had for between $42-60k. One good example :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aston-Martin...m=152009612633

Love it! Awesome car, but maintenance is crazy expensive.

[sirdaft1]

Originally Posted by Mywifes335

Love it! Awesome car, but maintenance is crazy expensive.

But it's not! Doug DeMuro's one off bad experience was an outlier. I've secretly been obsessing about buying a V8 Vantage for a while and have read through the AM V8V forums quite extensively. It's generally recommended by current V8V owners to plan on $1,800ish/yr for maintenance if you have a trusted Indy mechanic (That's BMW maintenance territory!). Part of the reason its not on a Ferrari's maintenance budget is that it's a pretty simple front engine V8, RWD car, made up of a mix of parts from Jaguar, Volvo and Ford...

And that's kind of the charm about an AM, it's kind of like a reuben sandwich made up of ingredients- which left on their own, are less than desirable (corned beef, rye bread, thousand island). But when you put them together, THEY JUST WORK. And it makes the Vantage one hell of a car.

More on AM V8V ownership:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...questions.html

It's the V12, but you get the point

And just some more Aston V8V car pron...

[NickyC]

Really nice argument for an Aston there. ^

That or an 08+ Viper.