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I was thinking about the first one... not the video game.
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lol me too
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I think he's done doing stupid mistakes for what I can tell, and also acts more adult than many older drivers when disaster strikes indeed; that's why I said he's matured enough to be a champion. Most F1 drivers at that level will be cocky, arrogant, etc., so they'll never be liked by all. But we shouldn't deny their skill either . I personally think he's the best F1 driver, but others are pretty close, so ultimately car reliability and luck end up being the deciding factors on a championship, rather than all out skill IMO, especially when car performance is so close overall (RB, Ferrari and McLaren). Hey gang, question: Is Vettel going to be penalized 5 grid positions for getting a new engine after the blow-up??? That'd add insult to injury. An engine blowing up forcing you to DNF (especially on P1) should be punishment enough, but curious about the rules. Thx. |
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I wonder if they'll rethink that one now.
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Taking a 5 place grid penalty is a big hit, even if SV managed to get "pole" position.
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That penalty should be waived in case of engine blow-up IMO. You take the penalty if you don't want to take the risk. A DNF is more severe than a grid penalty, so getting hit with BOTH doesn't sound fair to me. It's the equivalent of kicking somebody when he's down. Oh well.
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5 grid for a gear box change that use less than 4 consecutively races.
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SV threw away lots of points this season (intentionally or not, accidents or mechanical failure).
Bahrain (- 13) Engine problem Australia (- 25) Wheel nut issue Turkey (- 18) Collide with teammate British (-19) Had pole but over-aggressive and caused puncture at race-start, managed to end P7 Hungary (-3) Messed up safety car restart and handed Farnando P2, lost 3 points Belgium (-15) Was at P3 and then crashed into Button and ended up serving a drive-thru, ended P15 Korea (-25) Engine blew while everything was under control, waiting for the checker flag. To sum up, bad luck plus a few mistakes. That cost him about 118 points! I took the points difference at the moment the incident occured and the resulting position. some I don't remember clearly (such as Australia). Just a guesstimate how much points he would've gain if he had better luck or more patience.
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At a first glance, 118 points seems shocking. But, let's not forget all the mistakes all the other contenders have made. Alonso and Hamilton in particular lost fistfuls of points from their mistakes/mishaps. Off the top of my head: Alonso - crashing in practice at Monaco (started P24), getting stuck behind the safety car in Valencia, drive-through penalty at Silverstone, going from 1st to 3rd in Canada, jumping the start at China Hamilton - crashing out three times (Singapore, Monza, and Barcelona) My point is that it's far too easy to say Vettel could have won if he made less mistakes, since that's true for Alonso and Hamilton too!! |
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And don't forget he spun out at the first corner in Australia and crashed in Belgium.
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Others I remember was, Hamilton drive-train lost in Hungary, and Tire blown in Spain. Button cooked his engine in Monaco. Webber amazing RedBull flying in Valencia. Alonso gear box fail in Malaysia and eventually blown the engine (awesome competitive driving nonetheless), and spun out in Spa.
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I hope Weber ends up taking it out from here. I don't know why so many people do not like him. I think he is a good guy and deserves a championship. Vettel is young and has more than enough time to win a championship, unlike Weber.
Also I think it is incredibly hard to compare talents with these guys. They are all great drivers but remember that they are all in different equipment. If they were all in the same cars, i.e. Indy car, then we could compare more. I'd say most are evenly matched. Except Petrov, Senna, etc. who are being blown away by their teammates. I think it will be interesting next year to see who will do better with the new tires. I think people who are struggling this year with the tires (Schumacher, Massa, Button in recent races) will be much better off next year. But we will have to wait and see won't we. I am looking forward a lot to Brazil though.
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..anyone see any comments about Sutil?
He looked like a one man wrecking crew out there.
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Oddly enough I haven't seen anything. His race was beyond terrible. It almost seemed like he had an incident, whether it was just missing a corner or actually making contact with another car, every other lap.
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