[8202632]

Wanted to change out the oil at 1k miles. Has anyone done this service themselves? Should be pretty routine, but wanted to check as far as filter parts, etc. If not, I may just embark on this and post a DIY!

[like2short]

Originally Posted by 8202632

Wanted to change out the oil at 1k miles. Has anyone done this service themselves? Should be pretty routine, but wanted to check as far as filter parts, etc. If not, I may just embark on this and post a DIY!

Getbmwparts.com

And I would not bother changing it at 1k unless you want to do it because the other post on needing to change the oil ASAP. You'll most likely have problems with the cooling system, turbos, or fuel injection far before the rings or bearings wear out.

[jmciver]

Changing out the oil at the ~1200 mile mark as part of an engine "break-in" service is not a bad idea. BMW makes it a requirement on the engines in the M-cars (and is covered under the maintenance plan). But I would still probably do it on a non-M engine as well just as a good maintenance practice, especially if you plan to keep it for the long haul.

That said, the job looks pretty easy - as any oil change should be. I have never seen the oil filter on a BMW engine on the bottom of the engine though (which I guess is unique to the N63 : ). Only special tool you should need is the oil filter cover removal tool which can be purchased almost anywhere - and appears to be the same one BMW has used on their engines going back many years. But damn, 10.5 liters of oil is a lot....

[hoffmeister]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Changing out the oil at the ~1200 mile mark as part of an engine "break-in" service is not a bad idea. BMW makes it a requirement on the engines in the M-cars (and is covered under the maintenance plan). But I would still probably do it on a non-M engine as well just as a good maintenance practice, especially if you plan to keep it for the long haul.

That said, the job looks pretty easy - as any oil change should be. I have never seen the oil filter on a BMW engine on the bottom of the engine though (which I guess is unique to the N63 : ). Only special tool you should need is the oil filter cover removal tool which can be purchased almost anywhere - and appears to be the same one BMW has used on their engines going back many years. But damn, 10.5 liters of oil is a lot....

Have not yet on this car but had an n/s63 v8 variant on 550, 650 GC, x5 50i and a M5. Have done oil changes on all and its pretty easy. Filter comes with the replacement gaskets you need. VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH: if you are jacking the car instead of using ramps and you have the air suspension - make sure you disable it first. I didnt and had some error messages when i lifted ours to put on winter tires. Fortunately they went away after a few miles. There is a thread on that topic here somewhere.

[nynd]

Originally Posted by hoffmeister

Have not yet on this car but had an n/s63 v8 variant on 550, 650 GC, x5 50i and a M5. Have done oil changes on all and its pretty easy. Filter comes with the replacement gaskets you need. VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH: if you are jacking the car instead of using ramps and you have the air suspension - make sure you disable it first. I didnt and had some error messages when i lifted ours to put on winter tires. Fortunately they went away after a few miles. There is a thread on that topic here somewhere.

Nothing in the owners manual stating to disable air suspension. I know previously there use to be a switch on some units to turn it off. Maybe new system is more forgiving?

[G80POWER]

Originally Posted by hoffmeister

Have not yet on this car but had an n/s63 v8 variant on 550, 650 GC, x5 50i and a M5. Have done oil changes on all and its pretty easy. Filter comes with the replacement gaskets you need. VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH: if you are jacking the car instead of using ramps and you have the air suspension - make sure you disable it first. I didnt and had some error messages when i lifted ours to put on winter tires. Fortunately they went away after a few miles. There is a thread on that topic here somewhere.

How do you disable the air suspension? I jacked my M50i up to carbon ceramic coat the wheels and looked in the manual and there was nothing on how to disable this so I didn’t do it and did not have any error messages or issues

[crackerjack15]

You press on lower switch and hold for 7 seconds and release. Green light is supposed to go out confirming it is temporarily disabled. Repeat to reactivate. It's under air suspension on idrive manual.

[nynd]

Good info - Just saw it:

Wheel change
Before a wheel change, deactivate the system:

Press the rocker switch forward or pull it backward for approx. 7 seconds. After the rocker switch is released, the LED indicator on the rocker switch will go out.

Activating the system: press the rocker switch forward or pull it backward for approx. 7 seconds. After the rocker switch is released, the LED indicator will reactivate.

[hechon]

Originally Posted by jmciver

But damn, 10.5 liters of oil is a lot....

are you sure about this? i just read that the capacity is 6.5L or 6.9US QT.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by hechon

are you sure about this? i just read that the capacity is 6.5L or 6.9US QT.

Yup... 6.5l is for the 6-cyl B58 engine in the 40i. The 8-cyl N63 engine in the 50i/M50i takes 10.5l according to the factory oil change procedure...

According to the OP's signature, he has a M50i.

[hechon]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Yup... 6.5l is for the 6-cyl B58 engine in the 40i. The 8-cyl N63 engine in the 50i/M50i takes 10.5l according to the factory oil change procedure...

According to the OP's signature, he has a M50i.

my bad. i am only seeing things through my lens. . i have the 40i and didn't think of other variants. thanks.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Changing out the oil at the ~1200 mile mark as part of an engine "break-in" service is not a bad idea. BMW makes it a requirement on the engines in the M-cars (and is covered under the maintenance plan). But I would still probably do it on a non-M engine as well just as a good maintenance practice, especially if you plan to keep it for the long haul.

I was not told about break in service when I took delivery of the car (M50i). So when I had an appointment with product specialist at the dealer to go over the features, they looked at the “required service “ in IDrive / connect and said it will be listed as 1200 service required if it is needed. In my car it was not listed and thus said not required ..🤷🏽

[jmciver]

In my original post I did not explicitly say this, but the X7 M50i is NOT an M-car with an M engine (among other M specific components, like suspension and the differential for example, that distinguish M-cars from non-M cars). Only M-cars have the 1200 miles service called out, which includes the M2, M3, M4, M5, X3M, X4M, X5M, etc. For current M-cars, the 1200 mile service includes changing the engine oil and differential oil. Whether or not BMW will make a true X7M is yet to be seen, but that is a different conversation ....

That said, treating any non-M BMW to the additional maintenance practices that are used on the M-cars is not a bad thing either (especially if you intend to keep the car for the long term), even if it is not part of the BMW covered maintenance plan. I did a 1200 mile oil service on my X7 40i (not the differential though), even though I had to pay for it out of my pocket - which is not that expensive (especially when you DIY like I do). Hell, my local dealer has oil change specials at least quarterly, like $49.99 for an oil change on any 6-cyl BMW ($79.99 for 8-cyl BMWs) which makes an oil change at the dealer a no-brainer (I just took advantage of this same special for my M3 not too long ago).

Your SA should have been able to tell you this about your M50i without the need to check the system, iDrive or otherwise. But the SA's lack of knowledge of stuff like this is not surprising unfortunately (and pretty common)...

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by jmciver

In my original post I did not explicitly say this, but the X7 M50i is NOT an M-car with an M engine (among other M specific components, like suspension and the differential for example, that distinguish M-cars from non-M cars). Only M-cars have the 1200 miles service called out, which includes the M2, M3, M4, M5, X3M, X4M, X5M, etc. For current M-cars, the 1200 mile service includes changing the engine oil and differential oil. Whether or not BMW will make a true X7M is yet to be seen, but that is a different conversation ....

That said, treating any non-M BMW to the additional maintenance practices that are used on the M-cars is not a bad thing either (especially if you intend to keep the car for the long term), even if it is not part of the BMW covered maintenance plan. I did a 1200 mile oil service on my X7 40i (not the differential though), even though I had to pay for it out of my pocket - which is not that expensive (especially when you DIY like I do). Hell, my local dealer has oil change specials at least quarterly, like $49.99 for an oil change on any 6-cyl BMW ($79.99 for 8-cyl BMWs) which makes an oil change at the dealer a no-brainer (I just took advantage of this same special for my M3 not too long ago).

Your SA should have been able to tell you this about your M50i without the need to check the system, iDrive or otherwise. But the SA's lack of knowledge of stuff like this is not surprising unfortunately (and pretty common)...

Thanks ... that makes sense. I found more information about the car from forums like these than dealer, SA and PS

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Mail4loys

I was not told about break in service when I took delivery of the car (M50i). So when I had an appointment with product specialist at the dealer to go over the features, they looked at the “required service “ in IDrive / connect and said it will be listed as 1200 service required if it is needed. In my car it was not listed and thus said not required ..🤷🏽
Attachment 2340855

You have more options available through your BMW Connected App than I do. I have an android phone and a 2020 X7 40i. I don't have the "Doors and Windows" or "Enabled Features" in my Connected drive App. Anyone know why my app is different? I have the latest version for Android and I'm on iStep version 03/2020.31.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by mitch57

You have more options available through your BMW Connected App than I do. I have an android phone and a 2020 X7 40i. I don't have the "Doors and Windows" or "Enabled Features" in my Connected drive App. Anyone know why my app is different? I have the latest version for Android and I'm on iStep version 03/2020.31.

I have subscribed to "Connected Package Professional". "Remote Services" which is included in this package provides these options.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Mail4loys

I have subscribed to "Connected Package Professional". "Remote Services" which is included in this package provides these options.
Attachment 2342719

Yes. I have the same package for my vehicle and I'm subscribed to it until 2023. I wonder what the deal is here?

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by mitch57

Yes. I have the same package for my vehicle and I'm subscribed to it until 2023. I wonder what the deal is here?

UPDATE:

I decided to give the BMW Genius a call and see what's up. Apparently there's a difference in the functionality of the Android and iPhone apps.

The iPhone app has the separate option for viewing the state of the doors, windows, sunroof, and trunk. So, if you parked the car and walked away you can look on your iPhone App under "Doors and Windows" and it would show you if any doors or windows were locked/unlocked/rolled up/down. This feature is not available on the Android app.

That's unfortunate as this is a very valuable feature. Especially being able to see if we left a window rolled down or the sunroof open. On Android we can only see if the vehicle is locked/unlocked. We cant see if any of the windows are rolled up or down.

As a side note, I did learn how to reset the telematics on the vehicle. To do this you press and hold the volume button for 70 seconds. This a different process than the 30 second reset iDrive option.

When you reset the telematics by holding the volume button in for 70 seconds the iDrive will reboot 3 times instead of once. So the key to resetting the telematics is to hold the volume button in until iDrive reboots 3 times. After doing that you should also update the apps which takes about 3 times as long as it does normally. Good to know information.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by mitch57

UPDATE:

I decided to give the BMW Genius a call and see what's up. Apparently there's a difference in the functionality of the Android and iPhone apps.
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This is unfortunate to have difference based on mobile platform. Is there any indication that both will have similar feature at some point?

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Mail4loys

This is unfortunate to have difference based on mobile platform. Is there any indication that both will have similar feature at some point?

I questioned him on that and he said he was going to put in a case to see why iPhone has it and Android doesn't. That being said, I haven't seen anyone else talking about this specific issue.

I'm not holding my breath that I'll hear anything back from BMW on why one has it and the other doesn't. I'm guessing there may be some security issue between the two platforms and maybe android isn't up to the security level required by BMW where the iPhone is. Just guessing...

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by mitch57

I questioned him on that and he said he was going to put in a case to see why iPhone has it and Android doesn't. That being said, I haven't seen anyone else talking about this specific issue.

I'm not holding my breath that I'll hear anything back from BMW on why one has it and the other doesn't. I'm guessing there may be some security issue between the two platforms and maybe android isn't up to the security level required by BMW where the iPhone is. Just guessing...

Well, I will preface this by stating that I am an Apple guy.... But usually you don't see that much disparity in functionality between iOS and Android apps in a big application like an app for a big car manufacturer like BMW. But this is clearly not the first time there has been a difference between iOS and Android apps for the same purpose. I do know the iOS app just had an update not too long ago, so Android could just be lagging behind a bit, and it is pretty common that one platform will update the app before the other - although it is usually iOS that lags behind Android.

BMW has always had a preference for Apple for some time. But maybe with the recent addition of Android Auto, that may change....

[thefarns88]

Originally Posted by 8202632

Wanted to change out the oil at 1k miles. Has anyone done this service themselves? Should be pretty routine, but wanted to check as far as filter parts, etc. If not, I may just embark on this and post a DIY!

There is a great step by step in this thread. It tells you you’ll need a oil filter canister (not cap) remover but doesn’t specify the size or dimensions of the remover. So either guess or try to get a universal remover.