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      12-14-2019, 08:53 PM   #1
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I just purchased a brand new custom order BMW X7 with Driver Assistance Pro and 3D Parking Assist.

I've seen multiple references on this forum showing people driving in "Sport Mode Plus". My owner's manual also references "Sport Mode Plus". However, when driving, I've toggled through the options you get when you repeatedly push the "Sport" button on the center console and there is no option for "Sport Mode Plus".

The only options I get are "Sport" or "Sport Individual". I have the latest version of iDrive since I just took delivery of it less than a month ago.

Either there are other options, that I don't have, that enable "Sport Plus" or they changed it from "Sport Plus" to "Sport Individual" in one of the latest updates.

Can anyone chime in and explain what the deal is here?
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I'm guessing you have a 40i? The M50i would have it, or you could enable it through coding.
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I'm guessing you have a 40i? The M50i would have it, or you could enable it through coding.
Yes, I have the 40i.

What is the difference between "Sport Individual, and Sport +"?
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Yes, I have the 40i.

What is the difference between "Sport Individual, and Sport +"?
Throttle response is the biggest noticable difference. Also puts the traction into sport mode, becomes more proactive about cooling, updates exhaust, etc.
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Throttle response is the biggest noticable difference. Also puts the traction into sport mode, becomes more proactive about cooling, updates exhaust, etc.
So, this option is only available on the V8 models then?
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Throttle response is the biggest noticable difference. Also puts the traction into sport mode, becomes more proactive about cooling, updates exhaust, etc.
So, this option is only available on the V8 models then?
I have a '19 50i and it does not have sport plus.
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My 2019 X7 50i M Sport has sport plus.It also has the dynamic handling package with the M Sport Differential and the M Sport exhaust.
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I don't have an X7 (yet) but I recently had a loaner X5 40i and played around with all of those settings as my assumption is that they are the same on the X7 40i. Also, my '17 M3 has those settings so I have some familiarity with how they are setup.

First, the Sport settings allow you to change parameters for the engine, transmission, suspension and steering. The options for each are: Sport Plus, Sport and Comfort. When you press the Sport button on the center console, if you choose "Sport" you will have default sport settings for the engine, suspension, transmission and steering - what BMW assumes the "average" person will want for a "sporty ride". If you choose "Sport Individual" you will have the option to customize the settings for each component listed above. You must select Sport Individual Customize to see the menu to change each of those parameters. Then when you select Sport Individual, the car will use the Sport settings you customized.

After having the X5 for a few days, here is what worked best for me:

Sport Individual:
Engine: Sport Plus (better throttle response and max boost available)
Transmission: Sport (shift points in transmission just right, Sport + was too twitchy for me)
Suspension: Comfort (because the roads where I am suck and I have a sports car if I want a stiff ride on the street)
Steering: Comfort (since I prefer a lighter steering feel since this is an SUV after all; Sport+ made the X5 feel really heavy, I even use Comfort in my M3 for the same reason)

The customization is great and a few steps better than my M3. You have similar customization in the Eco settings as well. Although, I put the X5 in Eco mode and all of the settings made the X5 feel like complete mush, and I am sure the X7 would feel worse. But, YMMV.....
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My 2019 X7 50i M Sport has sport plus.It also has the dynamic handling package with the M Sport Differential and the M Sport exhaust.
It's having the M Sport Pack which adds the Sport Plus setting on any model across BMWs lineup.

The M Performance models have it by default as do the full blown M models which also have additional M only settings and the M memory buttons.
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It's having the M Sport Pack which adds the Sport Plus setting on any model across BMWs lineup.
I don't think that is correct. The X5 that I mentioned above did not have the M Sport Package. It was just a regular 40i.
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My 2019 X7 50i M Sport has sport plus.It also has the dynamic handling package with the M Sport Differential and the M Sport exhaust.
It's having the M Sport Pack which adds the Sport Plus setting on any model across BMWs lineup.

The M Performance models have it by default as do the full blown M models which also have additional M only settings and the M memory buttons.
Our 2020 x7 40i with m sport does not have sport plus.
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I don't think that is correct. The X5 that I mentioned above did not have the M Sport Package. It was just a regular 40i.
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Our 2020 x7 40i with m sport does not have sport plus.
They must have changed things then because that's the way it's been in the past. Checking through the 2020 ordering guide for the G05 and G07, they all have 2TB the Sport Automatic Transmission standard so that can't be the reason.

jmciver Do you happen to know the options that loaner had, see if we can figure out what may have had added it? The only suspension things I can see that you can do differently with the G05 40i non M Sport is the Air Suspension and then adding Integral Active Steering.

Mbbrewer What additional options does yours have besides ZMP?
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I don't think that is correct. The X5 that I mentioned above did not have the M Sport Package. It was just a regular 40i.
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Our 2020 x7 40i with m sport does not have sport plus.
They must have changed things then because that's the way it's been in the past. Checking through the 2020 ordering guide for the G05 and G07, they all have 2TB the Sport Automatic Transmission standard so that can't be the reason.

jmciver Do you happen to know the options that loaner had, see if we can figure out what may have had added it? The only suspension things I can see that you can do differently with the G05 40i non M Sport is the Air Suspension and then adding Integral Active Steering.

Mbbrewer What additional options does yours have besides ZMP?
Unfortunately, I don't remember much of the specific options on the loaner. The only options that stuck out was the fact it had air suspension and a 3rd row seat - which I thought the X5 no longer had (apparently came back for 2020). But I do remember specifically it did not have the M Sport Package (no M steering wheel for one thing which sticks out because the M steering wheel is thicker).
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Unfortunately, I don't remember much of the specific options on the loaner. The only options that stuck out was the fact it had air suspension and a 3rd row seat - which I thought the X5 no longer had (apparently came back for 2020). But I do remember specifically it did not have the M Sport Package (no M steering wheel for one thing which sticks out because the M steering wheel is thicker).
BMW had issues supplying the M Sport steering wheels to Spartanburg in 2018, I'm not sure if it affected the early G05s or not though. They didn't have the 3 stage airbag available for it so even my M40i doesn't have one.
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Ok, my curiosity got the best of me so I decided to stop by a dealership on the way home from work today. Apparently, in order to get the Sport Plus settings on the X5, you need to have the Dynamic Handling package option (which is what the X5 loaner had). However, the dealer could not verify if the Dynamic Handling package was necessary to get Sport Plus on the X7. The dealer did say that the M Port package also gives you the Sport Plus settings. But based on some of the responses in this thread, I am not sure if that is correct (and I could not test the theory with an X7 on the lot). This is all for the 40i...

I really hope it is possible to get the Sort Plus settings on the X7 40i without needing the Dynamic Handling package. I am not a fan of that package on the X7, but I really did like using the individual Sport Plus settings on the X5 40i and would want to have it on the X7 as well....
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I am not a fan of that package on the X7
Out of curiosity, why not?
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I have a 2019 X7 50i M Sport with Dynamic Handling and do not have Sport Plus
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I've got the 40i M sport package with DHP and it doesn't come with the sport plus option.
I drove the X7 M50D which came with Sport plus by default.
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I am not a fan of that package on the X7
Out of curiosity, why not?
Three basic reasons....

1) I am not really interested in what the tech offers. IMHO, the X7 is already a very good handling SUV at slow or high speeds. If I want really "tight" handling performance, I am fortunate to have another car for that (my M3). For a SUV, I want a more luxurious ride. My point of reference regarding SUV handling is my Ford Expedition EL (which I have owned for the last 10 years) so the X7 is an obvious significant improvement in the handling category. I can parallel park my Expedition and maneuver it in small parking lots (think Metro train lots), so I know I won't have any issues with the X7.

2) Complexity of the tech. The DHP and the air suspension are the only tech options that worry me from a long term reliability perspective - I suspect they will be very expensive to deal with if they break compared to other tech in the car. I plan to keep the X7 for the long haul. Past SUV air suspension systems from all car makers have had their issues. But at least air suspensions have been around a while so I am "betting on the come" that BMW has improved the overall reliability of the air suspension system. DHP tech is very new, however, so admittedly I don't trust it as much. For starters, only the dealership has the tools to do a basic 4-wheel alignment on a DHP equipped X7.

3) Cost. IMHO, It is a very expensive option for what you get. Even for an expensive luxury SUV like the X7, the cost/benefit of the DHP option does not sit well with me.

A bit over the top from an analysis standpoint, but my modest OCD can't help it .
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So a dealer did a little more digging for me on this X7 Sport Plus Mode thing since I could not find anything definitive using the Google machine. Apparently, for 2020 the only way to get Sport Plus options on an X7 is if you purchase a M50. The 40i and 50i do not come with it, even if you have the M Sport Package or the Dynamic Handling Package - as others mentioned above.

So it looks like if you want Sport Plus options on a 40i or 50i, aftermarket coding may be your only option. I am personally ok with coding, while others may not be. But I find it surprising that Sport Plus functionality is available on the X5 40i (and presumably the X5 50i as well), but not on the entire flagship X7 SUV line (with the exception of the M50 of course)....
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You can code sport plus mode into an X7 40i using bimmercode.
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Only with Android devices for now unfortunately (or if you have an iOS beta version)......
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