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      03-27-2020, 09:38 PM   #1
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Climate Control Rules

I really like the "Climate Control Rules" option that this vehicle has. However, why don't they have the same options for the passenger?

I can set my seat heating/ventilation and heated steering wheel rules based on the outside temperature. It's odd that it shows "Driver" when you select the rules but not "Passenger".

This really sucks because my wife is always freaking cold and she has to activate the seat heaters every time she gets in the car. This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.

Perhaps this doesn't work for me because of the software version that I'm on. I'm currently running version 07/2019.59. Does anyone else have the option to set the "Climate Control Rules" for the front passenger on your vehicle?

The android app and the web based owners manual don't have any reference regarding "Climate Control Rules". I haven't checked the onboard digital owner's manual but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not listed there either.

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Well the car knows which person is in the drivers seat based on which key is used, so a rule can be tied to a key. But the car has no way of knowing who is in the passenger seat. So it's less useful to have rules for passengers since it can't know if its the same passenger.
Now it would be nice if they can tie it to maybe the passenger seat memory or something like that.
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However, why don't they have the same options for the passenger?
I had options for both sides until the most current idrive firmware was installed. Originally there were policies set for certain temperatures to activate cooling and or heating for either side. Now it only shows an option create a policy for the driver. There still isn't a steering wheel heat option despite the 5 and 7 having it.
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This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.
Really? side note, but I didn't know about that feature. Kinda cool.

Maybe in the future there will be a little sniffer there, that will identify if your passenger is a known companion.

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This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.
Really? side note, but I didn't know about that feature. Kinda cool.

Maybe in the future there will be a little sniffer there, that will identify if your passenger is a known companion.

"Good morning, Dave. Would you like to set your passenger seat for your mistress today?"
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This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.
Really? side note, but I didn't know about that feature. Kinda cool.

Maybe in the future there will be a little sniffer there, that will identify if your passenger is a known companion.

"Good morning, Dave. Would you like to set your passenger seat for your mistress today?"
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I had options for both sides until the most current idrive firmware was installed. Originally there were policies set for certain temperatures to activate cooling and or heating for either side. Now it only shows an option create a policy for the driver. There still isn't a steering wheel heat option despite the 5 and 7 having it.
What version where you on when you had the option and what version are you currently on?
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2019.41 (iirc)
I'm at 11.2019.50 and it's there for all 3 rows plus the steering and the arm rest.
Though it's a work around for the arm rest and steering you have to link them together from the heating options and then link the seats heating to them from the conditional and you get all 3 rows setting temp to auto activate on start up.
I just did it this afternoon while playing around with settings trying to find that digital key 🔑 feature on my iPhone which I'm guessing is an android feature now.
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I'm at 11.2019.50 and it's there for all 3 rows plus the steering and the arm rest.
Though it's a work around for the arm rest and steering you have to link them together from the heating options and then link the seats heating to them from the conditional and you get all 3 rows setting temp to auto activate on start up.
I just did it this afternoon while playing around with settings trying to find that digital key �� feature on my iPhone which I'm guessing is an android feature now.
+1. I have the same software version as well and found this while poking around a bit...
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I had options for both sides until the most current idrive firmware was installed. Originally there were policies set for certain temperatures to activate cooling and or heating for either side. Now it only shows an option create a policy for the driver. There still isn't a steering wheel heat option despite the 5 and 7 having it.
I saw a picture of the passenger side Climate Control Rules here somewhere on this forum. I've been searching all over bimmerpost for the thread that had the picture but I'll be damned if I can find it.

Anyone have a link to the post with the picture in it?
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I saw a picture of the passenger side Climate Control Rules here somewhere on this forum. I've been searching all over bimmerpost for the thread that had the picture but I'll be damned if I can find it.

Anyone have a link to the post with the picture in it?
Here it is, with more info in the thread after that post. I have been following this too, still deciding if I want to code it on....

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=1155
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Here it is, with more info in the thread after that post. I have been following this too, still deciding if I want to code it on....

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=1155
Thanks but I think that's only part of the settings I was looking for. Below is what it looks like currently for the driver. I thought I found a post that actually showed the top level "Climate Control Rules" that listed both the Driver and Passenger.

I asked Stephan from BimmerCode about it and he said he didn't think it was possible.

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Thanks but I think that's only part of the settings I was looking for. Below is what it looks like currently for the driver. I thought I found a post that actually showed the top level "Climate Control Rules" that listed both the Driver and Passenger.

I asked Stephan from BimmerCode about it and he said he didn't think it was possible.

Well, that post does show the iDrive 7 menu for Climate Control rules with both the Driver and Passenger options available. In stock form, there is only a Driver option as you already know. I believe the rest of that thread has the additional parameters to turn on this functionality via coding for the front passenger.

That is the only thread where I have seen coding this functionality discussed. What else were you thinking of?
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Well, that post does show the iDrive 7 menu for Climate Control rules with both the Driver and Passenger options available. In stock form, there is only a Driver option as you already know. I believe the rest of that thread has the additional parameters to turn on this functionality via coding for the front passenger.

That is the only thread where I have seen coding this functionality discussed. What else were you thinking of?
Actually, I think what you're referring to isn't "Climate Control Rules". I think it's "Seat and Armrest Heating" which is not located under the "Climate Control Rules".

I could also have been confused when I first saw your referenced post thinking it was under the "Climate Control Rules" option. This is my first BMW so it's all new to me. Perhaps, I got confused and thought this was a part of the "Climate Control Rules" which it isn't. Additionally, I thought I saw someone reference coding it with Esys or Esysx.
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TBH, I might be "merging" the different functionality as well. I went out to my X7 to take a closer look. The screens for seat heating/armrest and climate rules are similar, but not the same as the pics in this thread. Not surprising as there are several different seating configurations and iDrive 7 has slightly different menus for all of them.

All that said, I do still plan to look into getting the climate rules turned on for the front passenger as I also remember seeing some coding info for that functionality.
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TBH, I might be "merging" the different functionality as well. I went out to my X7 to take a closer look. The screens for seat heating/armrest and climate rules are similar, but not the same as the pics in this thread. Not surprising as there are several different seating configurations and iDrive 7 has slightly different menus for all of them.

All that said, I do still plan to look into getting the climate rules turned on for the front passenger as I also remember seeing some coding info for that functionality.
Let me know when you code yours and if you think it's worth it maybe I'll do mine too.
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I really like the "Climate Control Rules" option that this vehicle has. However, why don't they have the same options for the passenger?

I can set my seat heating/ventilation and heated steering wheel rules based on the outside temperature. It's odd that it shows "Driver" when you select the rules but not "Passenger".

This really sucks because my wife is always freaking cold and she has to activate the seat heaters every time she gets in the car. This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.

Perhaps this doesn't work for me because of the software version that I'm on. I'm currently running version 07/2019.59. Does anyone else have the option to set the "Climate Control Rules" for the front passenger on your vehicle?

The android app and the web based owners manual don't have any reference regarding "Climate Control Rules". I haven't checked the onboard digital owner's manual but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not listed there either.

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Why don’t x5 and x7 have it when my 21 x3 did. Bs indeed.
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Well, that post does show the iDrive 7 menu for Climate Control rules with both the Driver and Passenger options available. In stock form, there is only a Driver option as you already know. I believe the rest of that thread has the additional parameters to turn on this functionality via coding for the front passenger.

That is the only thread where I have seen coding this functionality discussed. What else were you thinking of?
Look on X5 forum. Same problem and several mention the codes needed for turning this on.
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I really like the "Climate Control Rules" option that this vehicle has. However, why don't they have the same options for the passenger?

I can set my seat heating/ventilation and heated steering wheel rules based on the outside temperature. It's odd that it shows "Driver" when you select the rules but not "Passenger".

This really sucks because my wife is always freaking cold and she has to activate the seat heaters every time she gets in the car. This is ridiculous considering that the vehicle knows when someone is sitting in the front passenger seat since the car tells me to get in the carpool lane when I'm using the NAV if there is someone in the passenger seat.

Perhaps this doesn't work for me because of the software version that I'm on. I'm currently running version 07/2019.59. Does anyone else have the option to set the "Climate Control Rules" for the front passenger on your vehicle?

The android app and the web based owners manual don't have any reference regarding "Climate Control Rules". I haven't checked the onboard digital owner's manual but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not listed there either.

Get your shit together BMW!
Why don't x5 and x7 have it when my 21 x3 did. Bs indeed.
Coding needed.
All iDrive7 have it disabled.
I have been coding it to many forum members even my own 2021 G05 X5.
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I currently have G30 and have coded with Bimmercode. I am getting X7 40i in about a month or so. I have compiled a list of coding options, and some require advanced setting or eSYS.

I have spent many hours trying to find out and do the eSYS downloads and stuff but I just keep going to different websites and downloading stuff that doesn't open, so I am wondering how I can get eSYS mods done by someone? Is there a list of what the advanced numbers in bimmercode are for, specifically flash brake lights, I see G05 has it??

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Thank you all.

1 AUTO STOP START
2 Fog lights off with high beam, leave on(deactivate)
3 Tire Pressure and Temperature
4 Automatic Passenger mirror tilt value, 30%(?)
5 Window lifter interruption when opening a door
6 Seat heating/cooling setting memory unit
7 Video In Motion
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9 Lock/Unlock Sounds & Duration
10 5 Flash Single Touch Turn
11 ASD OFF
12 Open AND close the tailgate from the driver's door
13 Open AND close the tailgate from remote
14 Max audio on start up
15 Rain-light-sensor sensitivity
16 Seat Heat Cooling Timing off
17 Anti Dazzle
18 Brake Flash when Applied - what number and steps in expert mode do I use
19 Increase vented seat fan speed
20 Seat temp control rules for Passenger & Rear, steering
21 Massage timing on off
LATER lower when in park to low setting

( I think 1 - 16 can be done with bimmercode not sure of the others, eSYS has my head spinning??

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