[JJ(BM)Dubya]

Originally Posted by sjsnyc

Yeah, doesn’t make sense as I don’t believe there’s any commonality. IIRC you’re a M60 and I’m a 40i. I have exec pkg, drive asst pro, backup, and captains. I wonder if it’s a color thing?

If it was a color or interior issue it wouldn’t even get through assembly I don’t think. Although I’ve got Merino Bay Blue/Extended Tartuffo and I haven’t seen any builds yet with either of those options I have to think it’s something that requires troubleshooting, like software or an electrical issue where something isn’t working properly and they need a smaller part rather than trying to reinstall something wholesale. I just waited 6 mos for my wife’s telluride and although I was antsy about it I knew how much time it would take and had zero visibility into the process so it didn’t bother me. Here, I thought it would be really quick and there’s enough visibility that when something like this crops up, it triggers me a bit when there’s a lack of transparency into the issue causing the delay. I know I shouldn’t be concerned, but I can’t help but think there’s going to something wrong with the car.

[Brigitte]

Originally Posted by iknowdjz

Not a color thing, this one just got delivered with same color as me, built later as I'm on 8/1. I bet there was something that was discovered for the first set that was fixed for the second week and now have to go back and do the fix on week 1 which is what's causing the delay. Total guess, but who knows.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29192239

I personally don't think it is due to the color. I was responding to someone who thinks it could be due to the color.

I think it is a timing issue (I have already posted about it)...maybe they discovered an error that occurred at a specific period of time. So they are holding those cars that were being built during that time until they fix that error.

[Orient330iNYC]

based on a post from the g05 forums that called the genius line (they are also seeing cars stuck in QC), it may be a missing or damaged part(s). since its all just in time, they need to order the part from the supplier then install and send on its way. they wouldnt pull parts from other cars being assembled.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...60&postcount=8

a software/programming issue they wouldnt hold the car at the plant. like with the few weeks of non touchscreen center displays last year, they ship with a stop sale and have it flashed by the dealer.

it could be as simple as a batch of defective trim. or visors. or anything really. just in time means they dont keep stocks of spare parts onsite.

i wouldnt worry too much about getting a lemon because of this. its just frustrating to be in limbo.

[Brigitte]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

based on a post from the g05 forums that called the genius line (they are also seeing cars stuck in QC), it may be a missing or damaged part(s).

I thought the car gets to QC after the production is complete. If there were missing/damaged parts... they could not have completed the production before sending the cars to QC?!

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by Brigitte

I thought the car gets to QC after the production is complete. If there were missing/damaged parts... they could not have completed the production before sending the cars to QC?!

they don't stop production for a missing or damaged part. the car keeps going down the line and remediated in QC. for example, lets say a seat comes with a big slash in it, they will send the car down the line with the seat and replace it in QC. issues are flagged and dealt with later.
basically the line stops for nothing.

production is complete when the car is released to distribution; on the my garage page, the step after qc is final assembly.
Quality Check -> Final Assembly -> Ready For Transport

[Brigitte]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

they don't stop production for a missing or damaged part. the car keeps going down the line and remediated in QC. for example, lets say a seat comes with a big slash in it, they will send the car down the line with the seat and replace it in QC. issues are flagged and dealt with later.
basically the line stops for nothing.

production is complete when the car is released to distribution; on the my garage page, the step after qc is final assembly.
Quality Check -> Final Assembly -> Ready For Transport

Thanks...now it makes sense.

[DLTBMW]

First BMW order here! Our X7M60i has been stuck in QC since our production date 8/2. Has anyone with 8/2 or prior that was also “stuck” moved on? Getting fairly nervous about our rate lock and aftermarket PPF appointment scheduled. Thanks so much!

[JJ(BM)Dubya]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

they don't stop production for a missing or damaged part. the car keeps going down the line and remediated in QC. for example, lets say a seat comes with a big slash in it, they will send the car down the line with the seat and replace it in QC. issues are flagged and dealt with later.
basically the line stops for nothing.

production is complete when the car is released to distribution; on the my garage page, the step after qc is final assembly.
Quality Check -> Final Assembly -> Ready For Transport

This is a helpful response and makes total sense now. Just a matter of what needs to get fixed and how long it will take to do so. My SA spoke with BMW and they apparently said that there should be a number of vehicles flip out of QC by midweek.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by JJ(BM)Dubya

This is a helpful response and makes total sense now. Just a matter of what needs to get fixed and how long it will take to do so. My SA spoke with BMW and they apparently said that there should be a number of vehicles flip out of QC by midweek.

its the downside for just in time supply. they dont keep alot, if any spares on hand. so if theres an issue, they need to order and wait for the parts to come.
it may not even be a damaged part, it could be a supplier was late with, for example sun visors. instead of holding production, just run it and install later for the missing parts.

[carbecool]

Proddate 7/30
As of now, still stuck in QC since 7/30

[iknowdjz]

Called Genius this AM, car still stuck in QC and he said "usually that means they are waiting on a part" but couldn't provide further details than that. Also when I asked how long it'll be after it finished QC before delivery he said "2-3 weeks with trucking delays" which I can hardly believe based on everyone's experience so far that have at least received their car at the dealer. 🤷🏻

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by iknowdjz

Called Genius this AM, car still stuck in QC and he said "usually that means they are waiting on a part" but couldn't provide further details than that. Also when I asked how long it'll be after it finished QC before delivery he said "2-3 weeks with trucking delays" which I can hardly believe based on everyone's experience so far that have at least received their car at the dealer. 🤷🏻

he's giving you the worse case scenario, earlier this year there were rail embargos to the west coast that had cars stuck at the plant for months.

[sjsnyc]

I understand that there are missing parts necessary to complete these builds. But why cars with later production dates are going into assembly, being completed, and delivered before the completion of cars with earlier production dates is beyond me.

[BMWX7m60i]

Originally Posted by sjsnyc

I understand that there are missing parts necessary to complete these builds. But why cars with later production dates are going into assembly, being completed, and delivered before the completion of cars with earlier production dates is beyond me.

If you figure this out let GM, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota know as well Happens wither everyone. There are so many variables.

[sjsnyc]

Originally Posted by BMWX7m60i

If you figure this out let GM, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota know as well Happens wither everyone. There are so many variables.

Their queueing methods stink. Should be first in, first out and instead it's last in, first out.

I get it though, they want to keep the assembly line operating and so all parts on hand are allocated to the -new- builds so they can get them completed start-to-finish. They then need a surplus of materials to finish the incomplete vehicles that have sidelined in the parking lot.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by sjsnyc

Their queueing methods stink. Should be first in, first out and instead it's last in, first out.

I get it though, they want to keep the assembly line operating and so all parts on hand are allocated to the -new- builds so they can get them completed start-to-finish. They then need a surplus of materials to finish the incomplete vehicles that have sidelined in the parking lot.

its just in time supply. each car gets the parts ordered and allocated in a "kit" 2 weeks before prod date.

no bins of parts, so they need to order replacements from the supplier.
most mfrs do this, but most dont do custom orders like bmw does, so most people dont experience this. they get the car off the lot so they never see the delays.
its crappy for the end user, but it'll get fixed and sent on its way.

[iknowdjz]

Just moved to "Awaiting Carrier Assignment"!!! Was in QC for a full 7 days!

Interesting note, the prodDate used to be 8/1, now that it's done being assembled and past QA, the prod date switched to 8/8.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by iknowdjz

Just moved to "Awaiting Carrier Assignment"!!! Was in QC for a full 7 days!

Interesting note, the prodDate used to be 8/1, now that it's done being assembled and past QA, the prod date switched to 8/8.

yep, the car isnt technically finished till it exits qc.

my 7/28 build updated to 7/29 prod date when it exited qc

[BMWX7m60i]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

its just in time supply. each car gets the parts ordered and allocated in a "kit" 2 weeks before prod date.

no bins of parts, so they need to order replacements from the supplier.
most mfrs do this, but most dont do custom orders like bmw does, so most people dont experience this. they get the car off the lot so they never see the delays.
its crappy for the end user, but it'll get fixed and sent on its way.

Like GM there are 90,000 vehicles that are built and waiting for parts/chips. However, they are making new vehicles with those needed parts. Logistical mess. Parts are sourced from different places depending on the situation.

[carbecool]

Originally Posted by iknowdjz

Just moved to "Awaiting Carrier Assignment"!!! Was in QC for a full 7 days!

Interesting note, the prodDate used to be 8/1, now that it's done being assembled and past QA, the prod date switched to 8/8.

Good for you! Mine still QC since 7/30

[Bigrahizzle]

Do you guys know how long it stays in the "Entering Assembly Line" part?

[jopa489]

Mine is "awaiting carrier assignment" also. Maybe about 5 days in QC? I did not check it daily.