[Mani59]

Here is a promo film:

[Al Pinã]

Thankful to have the pre-lci model as the front end is simply a nonstarter for me personally. Especially since they did away with the adaptive headlights which seems asinine to me. They come in so handy while driving twisty roads at night.

I guess I'll need to suffer with my measly 612 ponies instead of the 630.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Number of pistons is meaningless.

Clearly the number of pistons is not meaningless, or there wouldn't be multi-piston calipers.

[arciga18]

Originally Posted by Al Pin　

Thankful to have the pre-lci model as the front end is simply a nonstarter for me personally. Especially since they did away with the adaptive headlights which seems asinine to me. They come in so handy while driving twisty roads at night.

I guess I'll need to suffer with my measly 612 ponies instead of the 630.

Add m performance tire valve caps for 17 more hp at the wheels

It will get you close

[MystroX5]

[QUOTE=Al Pinã;29351494]Thankful to have the pre-lci model as the front end is simply a nonstarter for me personally. Especially since they did away with the adaptive headlights which seems asinine to me. They come in so handy while driving twisty roads at night.

I guess I'll need to suffer with my measly 612 ponies instead of the 630. [/QUOTE]

I might forgive the design if it in fact offered cutting edge better head light performance.

That absolutely is a inferior headlight setup purposely chosen which is concerning that it is showing the priority BMW is willing to sacrifice for a style change. How very unGermanic of BMW.


Personally the front end looks like a E Entertainment documentary of “Facial plastic surgeries gone horribly wrong”.

[padrino]

Originally Posted by jmack123

Surprised they are still running 4 piston calipers in the front and floating single in the rear. Especially when vehicles with half as much power (e.g. the new Lexis 500h) are running 6 pistons up front. Would figure there would've been at least a 6 piston front/4 piston rear setup for a vehicle this big and powerful.

I have a 2021 XB7 and can tell you it brakes amazing even when pushing it hard over and over.... 2023 on order as soon as I can :-)

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by padrino

I have a 2021 XB7 and can tell you it brakes amazing even when pushing it hard over and over.... 2023 on order as soon as I can :-)

Fair enough!

[ZRODDICK]

Looks amazing! I'll try to order one after 2023.

[________]

Originally Posted by jmack123

Clearly the number of pistons is not meaningless, or there wouldn't be multi-piston calipers.

By itself it is.
You brought up the number of pistons but not any other factor that make brakes work.

Clearly it’s meaningless by itself, or BMW wouldn’t have fitted them in this car.

[Al Pinã]

Like I've mentioned before; when Kia poached all those engineers a few years ago BMW should've scrapped whatever designs they were working on and started fresh. WTF were they thinking?

[wamochi]

where are the black M mirrors

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by wamochi

where are the black M mirrors

Alpina wont use "M" style mirrors. Its not the right design team signature look.

[Luminor513]

Interesting that this car is missing the rear seat entertainment option. Inventory must be in very short supply. Also surprised they haven't incorporated some version of the new 7 series theater TV option. I think this is a big oversight on BMW and Alpina's part.

[xp800man]

Does anyone know if the XB7 will initially come with the anticipated 4/23 updates such as "Highway Assistant" or will they be introduced to the XB7 at the same time as the other X7 models this spring? Thank you!

[SpencerC_6MT]

Originally Posted by jmack123

Clearly the number of pistons is not meaningless, or there wouldn't be multi-piston calipers.

Piston count don't really indicate stopping power. If the brakes are strong enough to lock wheels, they're operating as best as theoretically possible. What's more important here is driving style. The Urus doesn't have 10-piston brakes because the wheels wouldn't lock with 2; it's to help distribute heat and prevent warping the rotors under extreme heat. With more pistons doing less work, there's less risk of melting your pads at a specific point.

The point being, Alpina customers don't track their cars, they typically use them as high-speed cruisers. I'm sure there's some exception, but how many XB7's do you expect to see taking turn 8 at Laguna Seca? Thus, Alpina can use less expensive brakes which require less expensive pads and maintenance. Presumably they have enough stopping power for an emergency stop from 180mph, but not repeated abuse on track like an Urus is designed for.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by SpencerC_6MT

Piston count don't really indicate stopping power. If the brakes are strong enough to lock wheels, they're operating as best as theoretically possible. What's more important here is driving style. The Urus doesn't have 10-piston brakes because the wheels wouldn't lock with 2; it's to help distribute heat and prevent warping the rotors under extreme heat. With more pistons doing less work, there's less risk of melting your pads at a specific point.

The point being, Alpina customers don't track their cars, they typically use them as high-speed cruisers. I'm sure there's some exception, but how many XB7's do you expect to see taking turn 8 at Laguna Seca? Thus, Alpina can use less expensive brakes which require less expensive pads and maintenance. Presumably they have enough stopping power for an emergency stop from 180mph, but not repeated abuse on track like an Urus is designed for.

This is fair. And yes I understand that more "stopping power" does not translate to reduced braking distance as the limiting factor are the tires. I was referring to brake fade in particular. Like you said though, given the likely use cases, it may be overkill.

[Germanauto]

It's nice sure, but at that price we are talking G-wagons and well-equipped Range Rovers. Those look macho and worthy of their price, whereas this looks looks mom's Costco mobile.

[Al Pinã]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

It's nice sure, but at that price we are talking G-wagons and well-equipped Range Rovers. Those look macho and worthy of their price, whereas this looks looks mom's Costco mobile.

Where have you seen a G-Wagon lately for $150K?

[phellar]

Any thoughts on if this will get the RSE (Rear Seat Entertinement) built in...

[Al Pinã]

Configurator is live for those interested in building one of these ugly MFRs.

https://www.alpina-configurator.com/...wKFkaT9N5vtBjB

[NLRMS]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

It's nice sure, but at that price we are talking G-wagons and well-equipped Range Rovers. Those look macho and worthy of their price, whereas this looks looks mom's Costco mobile.

Hah,

I suggest you do some research on pricing before posting. Also people who purchase X7 size vehicles and specifically XB7 don't even consider G-Wagons due to size, comfort, exclusivity, etc.

[clutchdj]

I think the front looks worse than mine but its still an alpina; has the best driving dynamics (xb7) in class.. I am convinced.