325i E90 vs acura rsx type-s

aem · 02-23-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RichReg

Yeah sure....and monkeys might fly out of my butt.
Car & Driver also tested the 330 at 5.6 seconds some time early last year.
Their times are

5.6 for a 330? That's around the WRX Sti's time and a couple of tenths shy of the e36 'euro' M3...

db17k · 02-23-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

I like to drive fast at times and at others i dont. Thats the problem with these racers such as the EVO, STi, and to a lesser extend the RSX, You can't drive them normally with comfort. Try taking a date out in a EVO or STi! The turbo pushes so much Psi, that the surge of power is inevitable.

you make a point with the Evo & Sti, but the RSX isn't even close to being uncomfortable.

ACZakka325i · 02-23-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by db17k

you make a point with the Evo & Sti, but the RSX isn't even close to being uncomfortable.

I guess im refering more to fit and finish and build quality. You pay for performance without the luxury and bells/whistles. Is that better?

ed328ci · 02-23-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brian32e

325i in 6.1? I don't think so...that sounds like the 330i time...

You do realize that the only differences between the North American 325i and 330i are software settings and these 4 parts in the Intake manifold.

02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522929 $210.92 +core
02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560537 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522928 $210.92 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560538 +core

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...56&hg=11&fg=40

The other engine components are exactly the same.

My guess is that while the 330i is more powerful than the 325i, it is not more powerful by 40 hp. In other words, the 325i is underrated in horsepower for marketing reasons.

We have went over why there are inconsistent magazine acceleration times. In any mass produced vehicle, there is at least a 5% tolerance between each car of the same model. Further, the altitude, wind direction, grad, and air temperature of the test venue will also affect the recorded times.

Ed

db17k · 02-23-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

I guess im refering more to fit and finish and build quality. You pay for performance without the luxury and bells/whistles. Is that better?

better

the sti and evo are the racers, the rsx is a sport compact with wanna be racer drivers

db17k · 02-23-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ed328ci

You do realize that the only differences between the North American 325i and 330i are software settings and these 4 parts in the Intake manifold.

02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522929 $210.92 +core
02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560537 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522928 $210.92 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560538 +core

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...56&hg=11&fg=40

The other engine components are exactly the same.

My guess is that while the 330i is more powerful than the 325i, it is not more powerful by 40 hp. In other words, the 325i is underrated in horsepower for marketing reasons.

We have went over why there are inconsistent magazine acceleration times. In any mass produced vehicle, there is at least a 5% tolerance between each car of the same model. Further, the altitude, wind direction, grad, and air temperature of the test venue will also affect the recorded times.

Ed

there are other components that need to be changed too, such as the exhaust

Bimmerista · 02-23-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ed328ci

You do realize that the only differences between the North American 325i and 330i are software settings and these 4 parts in the Intake manifold.

02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522929 $210.92 +core
02 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560537 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617522928 $210.92 +core
03 ADJUSTER UNIT 1 11617560538 +core

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...56&hg=11&fg=40

The other engine components are exactly the same.

My guess is that while the 330i is more powerful than the 325i, it is not more powerful by 40 hp. In other words, the 325i is underrated in horsepower for marketing reasons.

We have went over why there are inconsistent magazine acceleration times. In any mass produced vehicle, there is at least a 5% tolerance between each car of the same model. Further, the altitude, wind direction, grad, and air temperature of the test venue will also affect the recorded times.

Ed

Agreed, but so is the 330.

Steve P. · 02-23-2006, 04:32 PM

Actually it would be the 325i That would win. I roasted the RSX type S in my Audi TT 225hp. And the 325i is every bit as fast as the TT was

thd13 · 02-23-2006, 04:43 PM

After my break-in period I was able to race against an RSX. We were stopped at a light and I was actually behind him, both in the right lane. We both took off on green and I stayed in the right lane as he merged to the left lane. I definitely beat him by a few car lengths. Granted, it wasn't a Type S, unless he debadge the emblem. But these are quick cars; it would be a close race between a 325 and the Type S.

Ethirtynine · 02-23-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Douglas Schneider

Who would win in this battle? My buddy thinks that his rsx-s will be able to hang with my 325i (sp) once I get it. Can someone please tell him the truth?

The truth: It should be a close race. Your 325i doesn't own the RSX-S, so please don't question if it can hang with your 325i. Regardless if you have SP or not, the RSX-S would still give your car a good run. Either you're overestimating your car's performance, or you just need to learn more about other types of cars.

ACZakka325i · 02-23-2006, 05:11 PM

What is the actual 0-60 time and horsepower numbers of the 325i if they are both under/overstated?

ward · 02-23-2006, 05:22 PM

you can find the results at www.whogivesashit.com

ed328ci · 02-23-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by db17k

there are other components that need to be changed too, such as the exhaust

From a "more power to the ground" perspective, the exhausts are not going to make much of a difference. Both are fairly free flowing, with the 330i exhaust having an additional valve to change the sound of the exhaust at various RPM. All other components, aside from the ones already mentioned, are the same.

Ed

Wolf359 · 02-23-2006, 07:13 PM

Car and Driver tests it's cars for acceleration runs in opposite directions, and makes an average, to cancel out the wind effect.

They use pretty sophisticated instruments, and I don't think their numbers are fudged up. However, they will try every trick they can (Like revving up to 3000-4000 RPM before engaging in 1st) to get the fastest launch possible, so this is unlikely to depict the times obtained by someone who actually cares about not trashing his own car, as opposed to beating up a loaner sent by the manufacturer.

ACZakka325i · 02-23-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

you can find the results at www.whogivesashit.com

that was constructive......

Hawkeye3 · 02-23-2006, 07:49 PM

Another factor in the variance b/t times is the type of launch. Some mags rev and drop w/o worry about the car, others use a more controlled launch.

ward · 02-23-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

that was constructive......

so was that........

thxbuff2001 · 02-23-2006, 08:57 PM

OK, if its just speed that you are looking for, I would not even think of drag racing my 325 with that junk. Give them the trophy. I'll drive my e90 anyday of the month. They may have the speed, but they will never have the driving experience.

PS: Do you really believe that an rsx is faster than an 325? 0-60 maybe? But a long stretch of road, I dont think so.

r3amir · 02-23-2006, 10:49 PM

325i has power over a long band of RPM, you will enjoy driving it everyday even in regular driving. You will have power under your right foot any time and the faster it gets, the smoother it is

RSX type S will have power only at height of RPM, although it may be fun to drive. But you have to punch the car to get the juice out of it.

RSX type S is chassis is based on old civic (Not even the new one). Its due for a change now. The interior is ugly

Papa13 · 02-23-2006, 11:47 PM

the 325 will take it... not by much.. but it will...

And as for mag times.. i have seen 6.0-6.6 for the 325...

and 5.4-6.1 for the 330i.. so i think rounding off is wise...

6.3 for 325 and 5.7 for 330 seems fair.

ksfrogman · 02-24-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ward

you can find the results at www.whogivesashit.com

Lol. I actually clicked on that link.

alpinewhite3 · 02-24-2006, 01:51 AM

oh my god it's so funny that you started this thread, I dont have a 325i but a auto 330i and just the other day this guy in a blue(almost same color as mine, looked good btw) rsx type-s pulls up, looks over and starts inching forward. I've only had the car for a week + 300 miles on it and but he started inching forward and there was no way I could resist a good run. So I put it in d/s mode and start inching forward and he keeps inching forward but then i stop and start to power brake. The light turns green and he's with me till like 30mph but then i just easily start to pull away when i hit 4000rpm. By 70 I'm clearly ahead so i stop and do the ol' blinkers stating im done but of course this guy has to do the "ricer fly by". It would actually be very interesting to see a 325i v rsx type-s actually. I think a manual 325 has enough juice to pull away b/c i was pretty far ahead with an auto 330.

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Wolf359 Captain 12 Rep 942 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 325i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Car and Driver tests it's cars for acceleration runs in opposite directions, and makes an average, to cancel out the wind effect. They use pretty sophisticated instruments, and I don't think their numbers are fudged up. However, they will try every trick they can (Like revving up to 3000-4000 RPM before engaging in 1st) to get the fastest launch possible, so this is unlikely to depict the times obtained by someone who actually cares about not trashing his own car, as opposed to beating up a loaner sent by the manufacturer.
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thxbuff2001 Dictator for Life 343 Rep 560 Posts Drives: To many Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rockwall, TX iTrader: (0)	OK, if its just speed that you are looking for, I would not even think of drag racing my 325 with that junk. Give them the trophy. I'll drive my e90 anyday of the month. They may have the speed, but they will never have the driving experience. PS: Do you really believe that an rsx is faster than an 325? 0-60 maybe? But a long stretch of road, I dont think so.
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r3amir Lieutenant 86 Rep 592 Posts Drives: 2023 X2 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	325i has power over a long band of RPM, you will enjoy driving it everyday even in regular driving. You will have power under your right foot any time and the faster it gets, the smoother it is RSX type S will have power only at height of RPM, although it may be fun to drive. But you have to punch the car to get the juice out of it. RSX type S is chassis is based on old civic (Not even the new one). Its due for a change now. The interior is ugly __________________ 2018 540i Mineral White/ Cognac 2015 435i GC Midnight Blue Metallic, Saddle Brown 2011 535i Alpine White, Oyster/Black leather 2006 325i Arctic Metallic
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alpinewhite3 Major 556 Rep 1,067 Posts Drives: Currently searching Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0)	oh my god it's so funny that you started this thread, I dont have a 325i but a auto 330i and just the other day this guy in a blue(almost same color as mine, looked good btw) rsx type-s pulls up, looks over and starts inching forward. I've only had the car for a week + 300 miles on it and but he started inching forward and there was no way I could resist a good run. So I put it in d/s mode and start inching forward and he keeps inching forward but then i stop and start to power brake. The light turns green and he's with me till like 30mph but then i just easily start to pull away when i hit 4000rpm. By 70 I'm clearly ahead so i stop and do the ol' blinkers stating im done but of course this guy has to do the "ricer fly by". It would actually be very interesting to see a 325i v rsx type-s actually. I think a manual 325 has enough juice to pull away b/c i was pretty far ahead with an auto 330.
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