[jabbarjd]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

It’s amazing but this point has been brought up so many times yet so many still can’t believe they are actually stuck with no options disabling Auto Start Stop.

Equally baffling that another option is to keep your pre-LCI model and NOT update your software

[JJacksonIII]

You know where I actually love the Auto Stop/Start? When I'm stopping for a coffee or to pick up a scrip at the drive through and the car turns off and is nice and quiet so I can have an easy conversation with the person on the other side of the glass. I truly do appreciate that as a feature!

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

You know where I actually love the Auto Stop/Start? When I'm stopping for a coffee or to pick up a scrip at the drive through and the car turns off and is nice and quiet so I can have an easy conversation with the person on the other side of the glass. I truly do appreciate that as a feature!

Finally some positivity! Plus think of all the gas we are saving

[MC113]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

This shit is ridiculous! Today is 96 degrees and when I come to a stop its blowing warm air until it restarts. Yes, sometimes I click the shifter into Sport mode and that keeps it running, but I don't want to drive normally in sport, holding revs and downshifting aggressively as I come to a stop. This isn't luxury. The worst is when your slowing to turn, but not stop, it shuts off, then comes back on and accelerates aggressively. I'm seriously considering selling. It pisses me off that much. Anyone want a 2024 M60i?

I have a 24 X5 M60i and had started a similar thread on the X5 forum here if it's any help or of interest: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2044863

Came here to see if anyone had similar discussions going. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any solution for the time being outside of setting the Drive Mode to Sport or having the transmission in Sport. I've been using Sport Individual with the suspension and steering in Comfort and just having the drivetrain in Sport...

[huskerdoc2020]

I will tell you I’ll never update my 2020 so I don’t lose the ability to BimmerCode it with default Sport Individual with ASS disabled. I jumped the gun the first time and can’t BimmerCode in its own but at least I had a fallback.

[Wiedzmin]

Originally Posted by Delrazdan

I understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and how ASS gets some folks all up in arms. I have a X5 40 i and X7 60i. I hardly notice the start stop, neither car does hiccup or anything, granted i am not searing my tires after light turns green. I am generally in comfort mode. If it bothers so much stay in sport mode. That is one button click after starting the car, next to the start button. Is it really that big a deal?

It would not be a big deal if it was only a one button click. All of us would be perfectly happy with an ASS-off button. The big deal is that you have to drive in sport drivetrain to prevent your car from shutting down and starting on each stop. Having to drive in sport with higher RPM is the big deal, not the click of a button.

[JJacksonIII]

Originally Posted by Wiedzmin

It would not be a big deal if it was only a one button click. All of us would be perfectly happy with an ASS-off button. The big deal is that you have to drive in sport drivetrain to prevent your car from shutting down and starting on each stop. Having to drive in sport with higher RPM is the big deal, not the click of a button.

Some would say that nothing about ASS is a big deal... Why does it bother some of you so much? It doesn't affect performance. The only accessory that it reportedly affects is the AC, and in those instances you just lift your foot off of the break for a quarter second and the engine restarts. It's a very smooth transition between not running and running. Light turns green, your foot comes off the break pedal and the car restarts before you hit the gas pedal. It saves a little gas. Aside from the AC being affected (which is an easy fix), what else is bothering everyone?

[blutob2]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

Some would say that nothing about ASS is a big deal... Why does it bother some of you so much? It doesn't affect performance. The only accessory that it reportedly affects is the AC, and in those instances you just lift your foot off of the break for a quarter second and the engine restarts. It's a very smooth transition between not running and running. Light turns green, your foot comes off the break pedal and the car restarts before you hit the gas pedal. It saves a little gas. Aside from the AC being affected (which is an easy fix), what else is bothering everyone?

Same and honestly my AC is fine. The fan still runs with the mild hybrid and it doesn't get very warm at all. When it does, it auto restarts too. But yeah, people are just set in their ways and still have the belief that the constant auto restarts harm the engine. And then no way people are keeping these that long, haha!

[JJacksonIII]

Originally Posted by blutob2

Same and honestly my AC is fine. The fan still runs with the mild hybrid and it doesn't get very warm at all. When it does, it auto restarts too. But yeah, people are just set in their ways and still have the belief that the constant auto restarts harm the engine. And then no way people are keeping these that long, haha!

Yes, I kinda forgot about that. Everytime I even start to think the AC is blowing a little weaker at a light, the engine restarts itself and the AC gets stronger. When it's really hot out, the car often times won't even shut off at lights. I do have issues with the HVAC system in general, but not in a way that ties into the auto start/stop.

[crackerjack15]

I emailed bmw. This is their response...

[serpentine]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

I emailed bmw. This is their response...

So…does it work?

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by serpentine

So…does it work?

Hell no. There isn't any auto/start stop setting. Is it in the update?

[LeKayz]

waiting on the damn 8.5 update as well!

[Saejin]

Love how everyone is annoyed by the Sport option in their Sport Activity Vehicles.

All joking aside, they should have left the button to disable somewhere. But since they didn’t plenty of work arounds with the Sport option, tapping the gas pedal, lifting the brake, etc.

[Caveno]

I own a 2016 750i, and X7 (for wife) and have a 24 760 on order which I’m supposed to get soon. Plus I own a BMW motorcycle (K1600). The ONLY reason I’m thinking of not taking delivery of the 760i is the ASS “feature”. My wife doesn’t mind the ASS but when I drive her X7 I have major anxiety when the car shuts off IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I don’t care how smooth it is or whether or not the AC works leave my car on until I shut it off.

If I gave a damn about fuel economy I’d buy a Prius not a 500+ horsepower car what weighs 3 tons.

I understand CAFE standards and the tighting fuel economy but this is not the solution.

Ok venting done. I read that if you start the car with the hood open and then shut the hood the ASS feature is disabled.

Presumably one could make a device that plugs into the obd module that sends a signal that the hood is open right before the car starts, then “closes” the hood once it fires up. If I take delivery I’m going to test this, and I think it wouldn’t be that difficult to create such a device. Im sure there’s a market for this.

Unfortunately it’s not just BMW shoving this down our throats. Other manufacturers are doing the same but WHY take away coding???? That’s on BMW.

[Wiedzmin]

Originally Posted by serpentine

So…does it work?

So the 8.5 upgrade enables the ASS toggle or not? It would be great. And don't give me that CAFE/euro6 bullshit. If the emissions are fine in sport with ASS off, they will be even more fine in comfort with ASS off.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Caveno

I own a 2016 750i, and X7 (for wife) and have a 24 760 on order which I’m supposed to get soon. Plus I own a BMW motorcycle (K1600). The ONLY reason I’m thinking of not taking delivery of the 760i is the ASS “feature”. My wife doesn’t mind the ASS but when I drive her X7 I have major anxiety when the car shuts off IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I don’t care how smooth it is or whether or not the AC works leave my car on until I shut it off.

If I gave a damn about fuel economy I’d buy a Prius not a 500+ horsepower car what weighs 3 tons.

I understand CAFE standards and the tighting fuel economy but this is not the solution.

Ok venting done. I read that if you start the car with the hood open and then shut the hood the ASS feature is disabled.

Presumably one could make a device that plugs into the obd module that sends a signal that the hood is open right before the car starts, then “closes” the hood once it fires up. If I take delivery I’m going to test this, and I think it wouldn’t be that difficult to create such a device. Im sure there’s a market for this.

Unfortunately it’s not just BMW shoving this down our throats. Other manufacturers are doing the same but WHY take away coding???? That’s on BMW.

This is why many of us need to vote with our wallets on what we buy. Purchasing is basically a vote of approval you like the direction the manufacture is going.
These are high end luxury cars for those that can afford to drive anything they want. Way too much competition for your $110k+ vehicle budget to not be thrilled by your vehicle.
If I had to be irritated or put up with features a manufacturer was forcing on me I might as well buy way down market and save some money.

[crackerjack15]

[Caveno]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

That’s a horrible answer. They do have the ability, clearly in some markets the option is available to shut off. An Ultimate driving machine should not shut off in the middle of the road. Give us a work around! I’m so upset about this.

[bagekko]

I can't remember if its Fed or many states created a law, which makes idling in a vehicle against the law. Surely EU likely has it, so the cars software is designed to comply with the law. It may be mandated in EU the cars have it, so BMW just implemented it worldwide. Prefer less versions of things for quality....

[mitch57]

Speak with your voice and your wallet. Spread the word far and wide. When BMW sales slump because of frustrated buyers maybe the bean counters at BMW will wake up and smell the coffee.

Look what happened when BMW tried to implement an $18.00 per month subscription fee for heated seats. https://www.businessinsider.com/bmw-...ar-2023-9?op=1

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by bagekko

I can't remember if its Fed or many states created a law, which makes idling in a vehicle against the law. Surely EU likely has it, so the cars software is designed to comply with the law. It may be mandated in EU the cars have it, so BMW just implemented it worldwide. Prefer less versions of things for quality....

It restarts in 5-20 seconds sitting still when the a/c is on. That's not my biggest complaint. It's the constant on/off pulling out or in slow traffic.