Front Plate

ciscopete822 · 03-09-2016, 01:32 AM

Hi gents

Been considering removing front plate and stuffing it behind front screen. I mean both cars look dead gorgeous with massive grills and no plate. Is it legal? Looked through highway code but it doesn't clearly say what's what . I know some petrol stations are reading plate before allowing to collect fuel but that's not my biggest concern. All views welcome.

....,,,,..,,.. · 03-09-2016, 02:08 AM

I believe they need to be readily readable by cameras, police.

Also need to be reflective, sitting stuck to your window likely defeats that.

It is also a huge bit of plastic to shove on the screen.

So, it will look stupid, it will also likely result in a guaranteed stop by police when noticed.

It's different therefore suspicious.

dobbo99 · 03-09-2016, 02:57 AM

First world problems.

I drove around without a front plate on an M3 for ages before being stopped and asked to put it back on. I never liked the mounting plinth for the front, it ruined the look of the car. I got a sticky back vinyl number plate made up and stuck it on, much cleaner, but it looked like a sticker, so got a small front plate made up instead which suited.

So I would suggest the same for you, although on the Audi you would have to put the plate to one side to keep the huge grill exposed. Having it on one side might then upset the symmetry of the front of the car.

S8 looks awesome with no plate.

Would love to get the plate off mine, front looks loads sharper without the mounting plinth (like this)

No idea if its legal or not!

ciscopete822 · 03-09-2016, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dobbo99

First world problems.

I drove around without a front plate on an M3 for ages before being stopped and asked to put it back on. I never liked the mounting plinth for the front, it ruined the look of the car. I got a sticky back vinyl number plate made up and stuck it on, much cleaner, but it looked like a sticker, so got a small front plate made up instead which suited.

So I would suggest the same for you, although on the Audi you would have to put the plate to one side to keep the huge grill exposed. Having it on one side might then upset the symmetry of the front of the car.

S8 looks awesome with no plate.

Would love to get the plate off mine, front looks loads sharper without the mounting plinth (like this)

No idea if its legal or not!

Thanks man , as you said - S8 looks epic without plate. Might as well risk it and see how it goes.

Nobby Clark · 03-09-2016, 07:15 AM

The MOT rules will probably govern the display of the plate namely (and I'm going from memory):

The plate needs to be secured so it is unlikely to fall off
Must be fitted as close to vertical as practical
Must be unlikely to be mis read and must be legible by a person standing approx 20 meters from the front of the vehicle
Must not be obscured

I guess it could be argued that even if you could secure it vertically in the front windscreen, reflections of the windscreen could make the plate unreadable.

You'll also likely fall foul of obstruction of visibility from the windscreen rules by an object that restricts view.

Best just to Just play by the rules that we are all subject to.

....,,,,..,,.. · 03-09-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dobbo99

First world problems.

I drove around without a front plate on an M3 for ages before being stopped and asked to put it back on. I never liked the mounting plinth for the front, it ruined the look of the car. I got a sticky back vinyl number plate made up and stuck it on, much cleaner, but it looked like a sticker, so got a small front plate made up instead which suited.

So I would suggest the same for you, although on the Audi you would have to put the plate to one side to keep the huge grill exposed. Having it on one side might then upset the symmetry of the front of the car.

S8 looks awesome with no plate.

Would love to get the plate off mine, front looks loads sharper without the mounting plinth (like this)

No idea if its legal or not!

To me that stinks of someone doing it to avoid speed cameras or paying road tax and not for looks.

Especially now that so many APNR checks are carried out.

Also totally pointless as places such as airport car parks, shopping centres have number recognition systems.

Have also in the past reported cars with deliberately obscured 'lettering' on number plates, latest was a white Audi where front and rear plates had been painted over with something.

jusdorange · 03-09-2016, 06:35 PM

I drive without front plates

Ruins cars lines

Haven't been pulled over... YET

Steven1077 · 03-09-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jusdorange

I drive without front plates

Ruins cars lines

Haven't been pulled over... YET

You can be sure they would pull you over in the UK

jusdorange · 03-09-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven1077

You can be sure they would pull you over in the UK

This is in the UK

U.K. Police have a sense of humour

Monaco police are cunts

eluded · 03-10-2016, 12:17 AM

In the EU if you're driving without a front plate in my country, they're allowed to impound the car and sell it.

....,,,,..,,.. · 03-10-2016, 01:23 AM

I asked some mates at work about this, about 10 people total.

Not one person said it would be for making the car look better, actually pointed out 'it's only a BMW, not like it's a Aston Martin etc'

Anyhow, replies ranged from 'obviously a chav' 'stealing petrol' 'wants to avoid cameras'

ciscopete822 · 03-10-2016, 01:32 AM

Staying with plates on on both cars. Just realized I am not a boy racer anymore😈

Nobby Clark · 03-10-2016, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eluded

In the EU if you're driving without a front plate in my country, they're allowed to impound the car and sell it.

I think this should also apply to anyone who mis spaces or misrepresents their number plate.

I'm very happy if someone wants a personal plate, ETTO, but dicking about with it to make it say something it doesn't just tells me you've completely wasted your money and your a c*ck.

ciscopete822 · 03-10-2016, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brigand

I asked some mates at work about this, about 10 people total.

Not one person said it would be for making the car look better, actually pointed out 'it's only a BMW, not like it's a Aston Martin etc'

Anyhow, replies ranged from 'obviously a chav' 'stealing petrol' 'wants to avoid cameras'

funnily enough , on my instagram account , most of the piuctures of Maser had similar comment to this:

"remove the plates!" or "why are you killing car lines with that nasty front plate". When I questioned them they all replayed "been driving for years like this in Central London".

I am foreigner and do not intend to stand out , especially in a "bad" way - so leaving plates as they are.

Thanks for wise words gents. Much appreciated!

Ice Man · 03-10-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nobby Clark

I think this should also apply to anyone who mis spaces or misrepresents their number plate.

I'm very happy if someone wants a personal plate, ETTO, but dicking about with it to make it say something it doesn't just tells me you've completely wasted your money and your a c*ck.

Saw a number plate today that was incorrectly spaced however if it had been speced correctly would have read something completely different. It was on a tractor.

It was spaced

B1G AL

Obviously should be

B1 GAL

Danny Fireblade · 03-10-2016, 03:23 PM

Every cop I know would pull a car if it was not displaying a front plate.

Search VDRS, as that is what you would get, then if you continue to get them serious things can happen, like fines, seizure of vet, etc.

Not only that but the rozzers never pull you over when you have loads of time on your hands, its always when you're late or got summit in the motor you would prefer them not to see.

Kinda not worth it for looks IMO.

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ciscopete822 Major 575 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: RS6 , 840i and others :P Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (0)	Front Plate Hi gents Been considering removing front plate and stuffing it behind front screen. I mean both cars look dead gorgeous with massive grills and no plate. Is it legal? Looked through highway code but it doesn't clearly say what's what . I know some petrol stations are reading plate before allowing to collect fuel but that's not my biggest concern. All views welcome.
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....,,,,..,,.. General 6733 Rep 20,651 Posts Drives: xxxx Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: xxxx iTrader: (0)	I believe they need to be readily readable by cameras, police. Also need to be reflective, sitting stuck to your window likely defeats that. It is also a huge bit of plastic to shove on the screen. So, it will look stupid, it will also likely result in a guaranteed stop by police when noticed. It's different therefore suspicious.
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dobbo99 Major 227 Rep 1,489 Posts Drives: E39 530 oldskool Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	First world problems. I drove around without a front plate on an M3 for ages before being stopped and asked to put it back on. I never liked the mounting plinth for the front, it ruined the look of the car. I got a sticky back vinyl number plate made up and stuck it on, much cleaner, but it looked like a sticker, so got a small front plate made up instead which suited. So I would suggest the same for you, although on the Audi you would have to put the plate to one side to keep the huge grill exposed. Having it on one side might then upset the symmetry of the front of the car. S8 looks awesome with no plate. Would love to get the plate off mine, front looks loads sharper without the mounting plinth (like this) No idea if its legal or not!
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Nobby Clark Lieutenant Colonel 759 Rep 1,863 Posts Drives: F36 430d xDrive M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	The MOT rules will probably govern the display of the plate namely (and I'm going from memory): The plate needs to be secured so it is unlikely to fall off Must be fitted as close to vertical as practical Must be unlikely to be mis read and must be legible by a person standing approx 20 meters from the front of the vehicle Must not be obscured I guess it could be argued that even if you could secure it vertically in the front windscreen, reflections of the windscreen could make the plate unreadable. You'll also likely fall foul of obstruction of visibility from the windscreen rules by an object that restricts view. Best just to Just play by the rules that we are all subject to.
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jusdorange YOLO 440 Rep 2,854 Posts Drives: #mw Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Monaco iTrader: (0)	I drive without front plates Ruins cars lines Haven't been pulled over... YET
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eluded 2JZ-GTE 3042 Rep 3,996 Posts Drives: 340 6MT, 50e, others Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sofia iTrader: (0)	In the EU if you're driving without a front plate in my country, they're allowed to impound the car and sell it. __________________ A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
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....,,,,..,,.. General 6733 Rep 20,651 Posts Drives: xxxx Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: xxxx iTrader: (0)	I asked some mates at work about this, about 10 people total. Not one person said it would be for making the car look better, actually pointed out 'it's only a BMW, not like it's a Aston Martin etc' Anyhow, replies ranged from 'obviously a chav' 'stealing petrol' 'wants to avoid cameras'
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ciscopete822 Major 575 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: RS6 , 840i and others :P Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (0)	Staying with plates on on both cars. Just realized I am not a boy racer anymore😈
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Danny Fireblade Village idiot 750 Rep 1,237 Posts Drives: Myself crazy Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Every cop I know would pull a car if it was not displaying a front plate. Search VDRS, as that is what you would get, then if you continue to get them serious things can happen, like fines, seizure of vet, etc. Not only that but the rozzers never pull you over when you have loads of time on your hands, its always when you're late or got summit in the motor you would prefer them not to see. Kinda not worth it for looks IMO.
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