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05-21-2024, 11:57 PM | #243 | |
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See this is the dilemma I am currently in. It really sucks to have to consider an upgrade on my 2023 because the AC is horrendous. And even if I go to a 2025, the AC will just be "ok" at best. And I am going to think it's "ok" because I am coming from "horrendous". If I spend 100k I shouldn't have substandard AC on what should be a "luxury" SUV. There is no luxury in sweating it out. Plus I am on a lease and I already paid over 30k in lease payments. The idea of having to "start over" on a 100k SUV doesn't sit well with me, especially when the AC on the newer model is still marginal at best. It makes me want to just dump this and go with another brand. I currently have a case open with BMW because I am not happy, waiting to hear back from them on any options. This is my first BMW and while this first experience has not been good, BMW does do a lot of things right. I love the look of the X7 (interior/exterior). I love the digital key feature and their iPhone app is great. I especially love having a touch screen navigation WITH a working jog wheel (I use the jog wheel 90% of the time). I am not thrilled with Audi going all touch screens and removing their jog wheels. The drivers assist package works well (although I would have liked if I got highway assist, and WTH was BMW thinking by burying the adaptive cruise distance setting in the iDrive touch menus?) Is there a comparable SUV that has drivers assist pro equivalent (autonomous driving would be a plus), an actual jog wheel for navigation/carplay, and a digital key while looking good and has working AC? I don't even need a 7 seater, but I do need a larger 5 seater. |
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I'm not as active in the X5 threads but I haven't seen as many AC complaints as in the X7 threads. Is the X5 too "small"?
If you really need a larger 5-seater, you could always go for the CX70, which is just a CX90 w/o the 3rd row! https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...x-70-vs-cx-90/ |
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05-22-2024, 07:27 AM | #245 | |
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It’s a shame my wife thinks the X5 is too small. She doesn’t like the legroom in the front and if we push the seat too far back, it impedes on our son, I really like the X5 loaner that I had and I can imagine how much of a fun ride The M 60 would’ve been. I have a lot more confidence in the AC on the X5 then I do on the X7. At this point, I wish BMW would just trade in my car and give me a 2024 model even if it’s CPO. The problem with that is it’s gonna be very hard to find one that is fully loaded with all the options because that’s what I have in mine. The way the AC is on the 2023, BMW should be buying this car back. It’s that bad and it’s not fair to me as a customer that I would have to spend a ton more money to upgrade based on what I have already put into this car. |
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05-22-2024, 07:45 AM | #246 | |
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The CX90 is a good comp for the X7 but has different advantages w/the 3rd row up/down. With the 3rd row down, the X7 has more cargo room at 48.6 vs 40 ft3. With the 3rd row up, the cargo advantage reverses to the CX90 at 14.9 vs 12.8 ft3. For this reason, I've always felt the X7 had more in common with the Q7 than the GLS as a 3-row SUV. Last edited by EWL5; 05-22-2024 at 07:53 AM.. |
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05-22-2024, 08:15 AM | #247 |
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My AC in the 2020 X7M50i has been excellent in volume of air and air temp. So cold even in the 90’s I run the vent temp between mid and all cold.
Does the LCI not perform well because of the smaller vents and in-tern have too low of air circulation volume to the size of the cabin?? |
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05-22-2024, 08:19 AM | #248 | |
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05-22-2024, 09:26 AM | #251 | |
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If I am stuck keeping the X7 until the lease ends then I guess I will be doing plenty of remote starts. The other issue though is even if I remote start it takes FOREVER to properly cool down this cabin with the lack of proper airflow, even when the car is actually running. I posted a few pages back that it took over 30 minutes to get the inside cabin temp from 115 degrees down to 79. 79 degrees is still pretty hot (especially with the lack of cold air hitting your body), and this was on a temperate 72 degree day. It's even worse on the hotter 80/90 degree days. |
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05-22-2024, 09:29 AM | #252 | |
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The point regarding the thin air vents has merit, however on the X5 you would be surprised how much air comes out of the thin center vents when you put the AC on full blast. There is something about the X7 design (specifically the 2023 model) that BMW royally effed up. |
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05-22-2024, 09:33 AM | #253 | |
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05-22-2024, 09:38 AM | #254 | |
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Yes I can agree with this, because you are referring to the 2024 X7. The 2023 X7 seems to be a major lemon and BMW has been changing out a lot of the internals of the LCI X7 starting in 2024. |
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05-22-2024, 05:25 PM | #256 | |
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I asked my service advisor who I have known for years if LCI X7 owners were complaining about the AC and he said no. The only big change from the 23's to the 24's is the new iDrive head unit Maybe it's the humidity you have out there? we are in a dry climate here, or you may have another issue. Here are my settings we used on a 102 degree day last summer that worked perfect, curious if yours are similar.
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Are the X7s made in different locations? Maybe the AC lottery has something to do with where it's built?
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05-22-2024, 08:14 PM | #259 | |
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Has the other vents under seats, door pillars and rear roof vents changed as well?? |
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05-23-2024, 06:33 AM | #260 |
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No issues with mine either. I do slide the temp bar below over to the colder setting and never have an issue.
I will say when coming to a stop the AC does fade considerably when the engine stops so if your driving in a lot of stop and go traffic I can see why this may be an issue. In that case just hit MAX AC and the engine won't shut off. Or go into sport mode. |
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05-23-2024, 08:57 AM | #262 |
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I have a 23 lci.
I have no problems. I used to drive ford expeditions for 20 yrs and the first thing I do when I get in a hot car is roll all windows down and blast ac. I have been using auto to cool down and then switch to normal. When we get in and expect the vehicle to cool 130 degree plus hot air it will take a while. Add in the start/stop and we have complaints. I normally will keep the engine running by barely stepping on brakes or if it does shut off I move an inch and engine starts up again at lights. I do have ac all 3 rows so third row runs all the time middle fan speeds. I feel this help circulates air and cools the air down. Maybe what I do might help others |
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