[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Phasers

Coming back to this though, removing 5AP from the vehicle VO, then forcing a software update, is the only way to get partial anti-dazzle in an LCI today, correct?

No, I am certain that even that will NOT work (or will not fully* work). It will allow the lights to follow some form of anti-dazzle operation, but not to it's full capacity or operation. You will hardly get the same benefits of fully coding every single line. For the record, VO coding followed by software update will only switch 2 coding lines out of about 14-15 lines that you need to manually code. VO coding automatically encode "en*-code" one line in two modules, but not the rest. It might be better than nothing, but it won't give results close to that of complete coding.

[Phasers]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

No, I am certain that even that will NOT work (or will not fully* work). It will allow the lights to follow some form of anti-dazzle operation, but not to it's full capacity or operation. You will hardly get the same benefits of fully coding every single line. For the record, VO coding followed by software update will only switch 2 coding lines out of about 14-15 lines that you need to manually code. VO coding automatically encode "en*-code" one line in two modules, but not the rest. It might be better than nothing, but it won't give results close to that of complete coding.

At the risk of sounding completely uninformed, do you have a better idea of what one should do for an LCI X7?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by Phasers

At the risk of sounding completely uninformed, do you have a better idea of what one should do for an LCI X7?

problem is, not much can be done. the fdl coding needed to get full functionality is currently not possible.
the closest you can get with the LCI is to have the vo modified to remove 5AP and either an OTA update or dealer flash to enable it.

that will enable a basic form of antidazzle, but how far off it is from the full antidazzle is unknown on the LCI.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Phasers

At the risk of sounding completely uninformed, do you have a better idea of what one should do for an LCI X7?

As others indicated, in the absence of FDL coding capability for LCI, there is nothing much that you could do. However, it may not be a bad idea to do VO coding followed by a software update to get basic anti-dazzle/glare operation (probably still better than nothing?).

[Phasers]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

As others indicated, in the absence of FDL coding capability for LCI, there is nothing much that you could do. However, it may not be a bad idea to do VO coding followed by a software update to get basic anti-dazzle/glare operation (probably still better than nothing?).

I think I will go this route. Someone offered to do the VO 5AP delete for only $50 once my '24 comes in.

[clutchdj]

Phasers did you have any success

[X7 Recruit]

I thought it might be worthwhile to add my thoughts re anti-dazzle, coming from a Laser light, ‘22 (pre-LCI) Euro spec X740d. The Automatic lights are great, better (IMO) than in my previous previous gen Macan and Panamera. They work very well on a mix of roads and lighting conditions (suburban, countryside) and the overall impact on nighttime visibility and safety is significant.

On the other hand… and this is what people may not want to hear, whether driving in Switzerland, Italy, Germany, or Austria, I am continually getting flashed by oncoming drivers who, despite the anti-dazzle feature clearly being enabled and not shining at their vehicle, still find the light to be too bright. So a lot of the time, the A gets shut off and I resort to manual use of the high beams.

Long story short, great technology that, like the lane assist and executive drive, has yet to be perfected.

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by X7 Recruit

I thought it might be worthwhile to add my thoughts re anti-dazzle, coming from a Laser light, ‘22 (pre-LCI) Euro spec X740d. The Automatic lights are great, better (IMO) than in my previous previous gen Macan and Panamera. They work very well on a mix of roads and lighting conditions (suburban, countryside) and the overall impact on nighttime visibility and safety is significant.

On the other hand… and this is what people may not want to hear, whether driving in Switzerland, Italy, Germany, or Austria, I am continually getting flashed by oncoming drivers who, despite the anti-dazzle feature clearly being enabled and not shining at their vehicle, still find the light to be too bright. So a lot of the time, the A gets shut off and I resort to manual use of the high beams.

Long story short, great technology that, like the lane assist and executive drive, has yet to be perfected.

Some people flash not because the light is too bright, but because they see 4 lights (2 on each side) and automatically assume you have your high beams on.
Most cars only have 2 lights (1 on each side) for low beam and when high beam is on, 2 additional lights (total of 4) are lit up.
The pre LCI has 4 lights on for low beams, so many assume the X7 has high beams on when it really doesn't and flash.

I've had some neighbors come to me and ask if I knew my high beams were on. Once I showed them that even with low beams all 4 lights are lit, they then go "ahhh I saw 4 so automatically thought you had high beams on"

[M_Chronos]

Follow up on VO coding approach for LCI. Very happy I did this, definitely works well and have yet to be flashed.

[Phasers]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Phasers did you have any success

Tbh I forgot because I rarely drive at night.

[PinkNinja400Guy]

Are y'all getting anti dazzle on both headlamps? I VO coded + FDL coded mine recently. I can see the right high beam adjusting to stay just to the right of the car in front of me. But the left high beam still acts like the US spec version - it'll switch between completely on and completely off, it won't do the horizontal positioning.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by PinkNinja400Guy

Are y'all getting anti dazzle on both headlamps? I VO coded + FDL coded mine recently. I can see the right high beam adjusting to stay just to the right of the car in front of me. But the left high beam still acts like the US spec version - it'll switch between completely on and completely off, it won't do the horizontal positioning.

Am not sure why you all keep doing the VO coding as well. I have done FDL coding only on all my BMW, including the 5-series, X5 and X7... in all of them it worked just fine even when ignoring the VO coding.

Basically I would just do the same thing you all do (same FDL) and I would just skip VO steps.

Is it possible that VO coding is only so that the car headlights coding can service an OTA update? Because I am 100% the codes worked perfectly fine by just doing FDL!!!

[X7 Recruit]

Originally Posted by thenew3

Some people flash not because the light is too bright, but because they see 4 lights (2 on each side) and automatically assume you have your high beams on.
Most cars only have 2 lights (1 on each side) for low beam and when high beam is on, 2 additional lights (total of 4) are lit up.
The pre LCI has 4 lights on for low beams, so many assume the X7 has high beams on when it really doesn't and flash.

I've had some neighbors come to me and ask if I knew my high beams were on. Once I showed them that even with low beams all 4 lights are lit, they then go "ahhh I saw 4 so automatically thought you had high beams on"

While this may be the case Stateside, over here 4 lights are pretty normal - you won’t be surprised to hear that they sell a lot of beemers in Europe - as well as VWs (amongst others) with four lights. And as I had exactly the same problem with the Macan and the Panamera, I’m going to respectfully suggest that the issue has more to do with the tech not working and continuing to blind oncoming vehicles, than with driver’s ignorance of headlight patterns.