[dinan5m3]

Creating a new thread for 2025 ambient lighting. Should be same, no? with 2023 and 2024? But just in case...

Wouldn't be surprised if there was/were additional cost cutting, supply chain BS's, etc.

Looked through the thread on random photos of X7, not much for the cabin ambient lighting.

If anyone has taken delivery of 2025 MY X7's for xDrive40i, M60i and can share some photos of cabin ambient lighting?

Better, if with B&W, if the lighting that came with B&W are kept the same, i believe so.

I don't think the door sills are (ever ???) illuminated?

But the press release for LCI says they are? Or only on M60i variant?

Test drove 2025 on the local dealer lot (none have the executive package, only premium one) and seems like the two LED light strips on the center console by the gear selector, are no longer there ???

Thanks!

[Jrjones4]

I had a 2023 X7 M60i and just took delivery of a 2025 X7 M60i last Tuesday.

Ambient lighting is the same in all ways.

The only thing I've found removed is the rubber cup piece in the front doors where the bottle holders are which I found a weird thing for BMW to remove. I looked up the part and they are about $11 per door.

I sold my 2023 in 2023 because I was frustrated with general quality issues. I had a pre lci (2022) and it was much better than the 2023.

The build of my 2025 is excellent- no wind noise, no rattles, and it overall seems assembled extremely well. Head and shoulders ahead of the 2023 model- seems BMW has made excellent quality improvements.

[ledphut]

The LCI has different colors, that’s for certain.

[dinan5m3]

So, in 2025, no ambient LED lighting strips on the center console by the gear selection.

And no ambient lighting at the back of the front seats.

And no ambient lighting on any of the door lower pockets and no lights by the door handle cavity areas.

Ok.

[Jrjones4]

No, incorrect.

While the 2025 is the same as other LCI’s and has slightly less ambient lighting on the dash than pre LCI, the LCI still has ambient lighting in every single place you mentioned- center console by gear selector, back of front seats, lower door pockets and door handles. Those are all the same as pre LCI at least in M60i in US.

[dinan5m3]

Originally Posted by Jrjones4

No, incorrect.

While the 2025 is the same as other LCI’s and has slightly less ambient lighting on the dash than pre LCI, the LCI still has ambient lighting in every single place you mentioned- center console by gear selector, back of front seats, lower door pockets and door handles. Those are all the same as pre LCI at least in M60i in US.

Thanks. After some more researching online, what you described above is "only" applicable to M60i variant in X7's LCI line up, which also includes i'm looking at the information online correctly, the M60i also has the "illuminated" door sills.

So, the xDrive40i only has that <<<<<< X7 ambient lighting, and that's it. And none of the ambient lighting as i described above. Total lame, bmw...

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

Thanks. After some more researching online, what you described above is "only" applicable to M60i variant in X7's LCI line up, which also includes i'm looking at the information online correctly, the M60i also has the "illuminated" door sills.

So, the xDrive40i only has that <<<<<< X7 ambient lighting, and that's it. And none of the ambient lighting as i described above. Total lame, bmw...

I am not sure how you arrive at these conclusions. There is no difference between 40i and M60 in terms of ambient lighting.

[dinan5m3]

Originally Posted by mattsrs

I am not sure how you arrive at these conclusions. There is no difference between 40i and M60 in terms of ambient lighting.

Interesting, so i "am" looking the online photos, and interpreting them incorrectly. I'll need to look closer at them, since i cannot make out "any" ambient lighting on the lower door pockets, door handle cavity areas, "and" the center console by the gear shifter.

[Jrjones4]

I'll snap some photos in the next night or two just to show it on the M60i. I can't speak to the 40i, but I don't think it would be any different.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

Interesting, so i "am" looking the online photos, and interpreting them incorrectly. I'll need to look closer at them, since i cannot make out "any" ambient lighting on the lower door pockets, door handle cavity areas, "and" the center console by the gear shifter.

I just checked my 25 40i and it has all those lights

[crackerjack15]

I just bought a 25 X7 40i msport. It has all the same ambient, underseat, back of seats lighting as the 24 X7 M60i I had. The color choices in the interior lighting menu are the same too. I have "M" door sill plates and they light up too.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

I just bought a 25 X7 40i msport. It has all the same ambient, underseat, back of seats lighting as the 24 X7 M60i I had. The color choices in the interior lighting menu are the same too. I have "M" door sill plates and they light up too.

Off topic, what made you get a 40i having had the m60i? I have 40i and want to do the opposite later.

[dinan5m3]

LCI xDrive40i has "illuminated" door sill lights ???!!!

Please, someone post some night photos of the ambient lights...

I'm on a clock folks...

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by mattsrs

Off topic, what made you get a 40i having had the m60i? I have 40i and want to do the opposite later.

It's complicated. The 2025 is my fourth X7 and I've owned three X5's also. I usually trade every couple years to keep a fresh travel vehicle and to get the latest model. My first X7 was 2019 40i luxury. Loved it. Traded it on a 2021 X7 40i Msport. Loved it also. Time to trade 21 and on a whim decided to get the LCI 2024 M60i. (I didn't really like the front end, but liked everything else). I didn't research or anything and came to realize that you could not disable the start/stop system with bimmer code as before. I loved the vehicle, the V8 is badass, etc. But the start/stop drove me insane. Yes, there are work arounds which I figured out, but it still pissed me off. Since we mostly use the vehicle for travel the V8 was total overkill. It gets less mpg, is aggresive sounding, more expensive, etc. So I stopped at the dealer and actually was going to get a 7 series sedan, but the depreciation on them is ridiculous. They had a new X5 50e and the new tech intrigued me. The dealer gave me a decent trade in on the M60i after 4 months, so picked up the 50e. I actually loved the hybrid powertrain. To me its awesome and I hope they put it in the X7 sometime in the future. The downside of the X5 for us, is it's louder inside and firmer riding. The X7 is so more relaxed and much quieter inside. Fast forward, I took the X5 in for it's first service and while waiting talking to my salesman, he said the demand for X5 50e is high right now because of production issues. They happen to have an exact Black X7 msport 40i with all options except DHP which I doesn't matter to me. So I traded it in and went back to the X7. Yes, It is still going to start/stop, but I think it's going to be a little smoother than the V8 on restarts, etc. Plus for what we are using the vehicle for the 40i is more than enough. I have 3 other cars for fun.

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

LCI xDrive40i has "illuminated" door sill lights ???!!!

Please, someone post some night photos of the ambient lights...

I'm on a clock folks...

Let me run down to the garage...

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

LCI xDrive40i has "illuminated" door sill lights ???!!!

Please, someone post some night photos of the ambient lights...

I'm on a clock folks...

Here you go. Crappy cell phone quick pics. I also turned up the ambient lighting to full brightness so you could see it better.

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[dinan5m3]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

Here you go. Crappy cell phone quick pics. I also turned up the ambient lighting to full brightness so you could see it better.

This will put X7 over the Model X Plaid.

Can you tell? I'm a sucker for lighting... (hence, i almost, literally almost went over to the dark side of 2025 Q7... whew...)

Mystery solved, for me on LCI ambient lighting, rest in peace!

(still, would have very much liked to have bit more lighting on the front dash, but ... oh, what can you do, can't win'em all)

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by dinan5m3

This will put X7 over the Model X Plaid.

Can you tell? I'm a sucker for lighting... (hence, i almost, literally almost went over to the dark side of 2025 Q7... whew...)

Mystery solved, for me on LCI ambient lighting, rest in peace!

(still, would have very much liked to have bit more lighting on the front dash, but ... oh, what can you do, can't win'em all)

Yeah, I wish they would have kept the two thin strips across the front dashboard instead of the arrows with X7.

If you really want lighting make sure to get the Bowers and Wilkins stereo! All the speakers light up too.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Jrjones4

I had a 2023 X7 M60i and just took delivery of a 2025 X7 M60i last Tuesday.

Ambient lighting is the same in all ways.

The only thing I've found removed is the rubber cup piece in the front doors where the bottle holders are which I found a weird thing for BMW to remove. I looked up the part and they are about $11 per door.

I sold my 2023 in 2023 because I was frustrated with general quality issues. I had a pre lci (2022) and it was much better than the 2023.

The build of my 2025 is excellent- no wind noise, no rattles, and it overall seems assembled extremely well. Head and shoulders ahead of the 2023 model- seems BMW has made excellent quality improvements.

Same for the 7-series. BMW has just figured out wind noise and improved the build quality and some door seal parts in the recent new builds just now. Looks like the same for X7. Glad to hear. Honestly the 2023 X7 model year is a disaster on all ends, hardware, software limitations and build quality obviously based on your observations. I noticed the lowr build quality starting MY 2022 which i sold for that reason.

[mattsrs]

Originally Posted by crackerjack15

It's complicated. The 2025 is my fourth X7 and I've owned three X5's also. I usually trade every couple years to keep a fresh travel vehicle and to get the latest model. My first X7 was 2019 40i luxury. Loved it. Traded it on a 2021 X7 40i Msport. Loved it also. Time to trade 21 and on a whim decided to get the LCI 2024 M60i. (I didn't really like the front end, but liked everything else). I didn't research or anything and came to realize that you could not disable the start/stop system with bimmer code as before. I loved the vehicle, the V8 is badass, etc. But the start/stop drove me insane. Yes, there are work arounds which I figured out, but it still pissed me off. Since we mostly use the vehicle for travel the V8 was total overkill. It gets less mpg, is aggresive sounding, more expensive, etc. So I stopped at the dealer and actually was going to get a 7 series sedan, but the depreciation on them is ridiculous. They had a new X5 50e and the new tech intrigued me. The dealer gave me a decent trade in on the M60i after 4 months, so picked up the 50e. I actually loved the hybrid powertrain. To me its awesome and I hope they put it in the X7 sometime in the future. The downside of the X5 for us, is it's louder inside and firmer riding. The X7 is so more relaxed and much quieter inside. Fast forward, I took the X5 in for it's first service and while waiting talking to my salesman, he said the demand for X5 50e is high right now because of production issues. They happen to have an exact Black X7 msport 40i with all options except DHP which I doesn't matter to me. So I traded it in and went back to the X7. Yes, It is still going to start/stop, but I think it's going to be a little smoother than the V8 on restarts, etc. Plus for what we are using the vehicle for the 40i is more than enough. I have 3 other cars for fun.

Thanks for the details. But bro, thanks to you, I don't feel bad changing my cars frequently anymore did you overall find the 40i to drive smoother and quieter than the M60i? and the start/stop works more seamlessly on the 40i?

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by mattsrs

Thanks for the details. But bro, thanks to you, I don't feel bad changing my cars frequently anymore did you overall find the 40i to drive smoother and quieter than the M60i? and the start/stop works more seamlessly on the 40i?

I don't know about the start/stop yet. Only have 250 miles on it so far. The 6cyl feels like it starts up smoother than the V8. In the summer with the a/c on I will either put in sport mode or turn off traction control to keep engine running at lights.

[Jrjones4]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

Same for the 7-series. BMW has just figured out wind noise and improved the build quality and some door seal parts in the recent new builds just now. Looks like the same for X7. Glad to hear. Honestly the 2023 X7 model year is a disaster on all ends, hardware, software limitations and build quality obviously based on your observations. I noticed the lowr build quality starting MY 2022 which i sold for that reason.

I agree!

I don't know what they did to change it all but I'm blown away by the 2025 X7 vs the 2023 and 2022 I had. The build quality on my 2022 was much better than the 2023 I had, but the 2025 has superb build quality from everything I can see and is much quieter inside than my 2023. The wind noise in my 2023 build drove me insane, as well as multiple check engine lights etc.