2023 BMW X7 M60i Review // Don't Buy That Range Rover Just Yet

SHARMAATL · 10-09-2022, 10:34 AM

Review of the M60i from the Throttle House guys. Not very in depth, and I'm honestly surprised at the slow (relatively speaking) 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds. Maybe the engine is still locked since they borrowed the car from a new owner?

Young04 · 10-09-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SHARMAATL

Review of the M60i from the Throttle House guys. Not very in depth, and I'm honestly surprised at the slow (relatively speaking) 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds. Maybe the engine is still locked since they borrowed the car from a new owner?

Engine is not "locked." Makes full power from day 1.

SHARMAATL · 10-09-2022, 12:56 PM

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Engine is not "locked." Makes full power from day 1.

Interesting. What is the lock icon on my RPM gauge and it saying that it’s locked until I hit ~300 miles?

Young04 · 10-09-2022, 01:13 PM

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Interesting. What is the lock icon on my RPM gauge and it saying that it’s locked until I hit ~300 miles?

From what source did you learn that that was some sort of engine lock or power reduction?

JK479 · 10-09-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Young04

Engine is not "locked." Makes full power from day 1.

Interesting. What is the lock icon on my RPM gauge and it saying that it’s locked until I hit ~300 miles?

Well- XM will now be quicker 😜

SHARMAATL · 10-09-2022, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Young04

From what source did you learn that that was some sort of engine lock or power reduction?

It literally says “Power Reduced”. I don’t know how else to read that aside from a reduction in power.

Jrjones4 · 10-09-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Young04

From what source did you learn that that was some sort of engine lock or power reduction?

The new M60i is power reduced for the first 300 miles, gradually increasing to full power as you get closer to the first 300 miles. Dealer let me know about it on pickup, and it was locked in the Power/RPM gauge. Different than previous M50i, which I also had.

Taktix1 · 10-09-2022, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Young04

From what source did you learn that that was some sort of engine lock or power reduction?

This has been discussed a bunch of times. The car is definitely locked for the first few hundred miles. I believe it is to ensure a proper break-in period.

Young04 · 10-09-2022, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrjones4

The new M60i is power reduced for the first 300 miles, gradually increasing to full power as you get closer to the first 300 miles. Dealer let me know about it on pickup, and it was locked in the Power/RPM gauge. Different than previous M50i, which I also had.

Fair enough I stand corrected then. I'm too jaded by the M3/M4 folks incorrectly thinking break in service unlocked power.

SHARMAATL · 10-09-2022, 02:05 PM

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Fair enough I stand corrected then. I'm too jaded by the M3/M4 folks incorrectly thinking break in service unlocked power.

No worries. I also realized I sounded a bit snarky. Apologies for that!

Al Pinã · 10-09-2022, 02:38 PM

So much for that "mild hybrid " system adding performance over last years model.

The 2020 M50 did a 4.1 to 60 and a 12.6 quarter mile. Looks like another heaping scoop of disappointment for LCI owners.

Minhaz617 · 10-09-2022, 02:42 PM

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So much for that "mild hybrid " system adding performance over last years model.

The 2020 M50 did a 4.1 to 60 and a 12.6 quarter mile. Looks like another heaping scoop of disappointment for LCI owners.

BMW advertised 0-60 at 4.5 secs. I don't think its going to get any better. I hope we can tune up the engine because its a new M engine

Young04 · 10-09-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Pinã

So much for that "mild hybrid " system adding performance over last years model.

The 2020 M50 did a 4.1 to 60 and a 12.6 quarter mile. Looks like another heaping scoop of disappointment for LCI owners.

Different testers though. I'm more curious about the 40i...bump in HP but the quoted 0 to 60 time is the same as the pre-LCI.

Al Pinã · 10-09-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Pin　

So much for that "mild hybrid " system adding performance over last years model.

The 2020 M50 did a 4.1 to 60 and a 12.6 quarter mile. Looks like another heaping scoop of disappointment for LCI owners.

BMW advertised 0-60 at 4.5 secs. I don't think its going to get any better. I hope we can tune up the engine because its a new M engine

I'm sure piggybacks will be available soon, but I don't think anyone has been able to crack the ECU's after 2020.

It's a shame, because DME claims 700hp with their Stage 2 version.

meccha · 10-09-2022, 08:42 PM

At about 4:30 of the review they mentioned the DHP (active anti roll) doesn't really work on comfort mode, which stood out to me because I agree. I have been driving in comfort mode for about 800 miles. Does putting it into sport mode "activate" it? I have the 40i btw.

BMWFanBoi · 10-09-2022, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SHARMAATL

Review of the M60i from the Throttle House guys. Not very in depth, and I'm honestly surprised at the slow (relatively speaking) 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds. Maybe the engine is still locked since they borrowed the car from a new owner?

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Originally Posted by Young04

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Originally Posted by SHARMAATL

Review of the M60i from the Throttle House guys. Not very in depth, and I'm honestly surprised at the slow (relatively speaking) 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds. Maybe the engine is still locked since they borrowed the car from a new owner?

Engine is not "locked." Makes full power from day 1.

Since the M60i has a true M engine the all new S68 vs the N63 which is in the M50i. All M engines have a break-in period. Hence the power reduction and RPM limit.

I believe the exact mileage as to when the power reduction and RPM limit will disappear is at 310 miles. After that it is smooth sailing!

As far as 0-60 time of 4.6 sec could be due to limits. IMO 0-60 time should be a little faster than the previous model M50i due to the 48V mild hybrid. Other than a boost in MPG it should get the M60i off the line.

SHARMAATL · 10-09-2022, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWFanBoi

Since the M60i has a true M engine the all new S68 vs the N63 which is in the M50i. All M engines have a break-in period. Hence the power reduction and RPM limit.

I believe the exact mileage as to when the power reduction and RPM limit will disappear is at 310 miles. After that it is smooth sailing!

As far as 0-60 time of 4.6 sec could be due to limits. IMO 0-60 time should be a little faster than the previous model M50i due to the 48V mild hybrid. Other than a boost in MPG it should get the M60i off the line.

I very much think this was tested during the break-in period and power was reduced, especially since they reviewed a new owner's vehicle.

JamesThrottle · 10-09-2022, 10:06 PM

Hey everyone. James here. The vehicle in the video was well past break in and had over 1000kms on the clock thanks to a trip from Toronto to Quebec that had happened the week before.

Cheers!

Minhaz617 · 10-10-2022, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SHARMAATL

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Originally Posted by BMWFanBoi

Since the M60i has a true M engine the all new S68 vs the N63 which is in the M50i. All M engines have a break-in period. Hence the power reduction and RPM limit.

I believe the exact mileage as to when the power reduction and RPM limit will disappear is at 310 miles. After that it is smooth sailing!

As far as 0-60 time of 4.6 sec could be due to limits. IMO 0-60 time should be a little faster than the previous model M50i due to the 48V mild hybrid. Other than a boost in MPG it should get the M60i off the line.

I very much think this was tested during the break-in period and power was reduced, especially since they reviewed a new owner's vehicle.

Its over 1k miles already.

viperssd · 10-10-2022, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesThrottle

Hey everyone. James here. The vehicle in the video was well past break in and had over 1000kms on the clock thanks to a trip from Toronto to Quebec that had happened the week before.

Cheers!

Can yall comment on the cabin noise when compared to the new range rover, I believe you've tested one recently.

SHARMAATL · 10-10-2022, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesThrottle

Hey everyone. James here. The vehicle in the video was well past break in and had over 1000kms on the clock thanks to a trip from Toronto to Quebec that had happened the week before.

Cheers!

Thanks for chiming in with the clarification. Big Throttle House fan!

MystroX5 · 10-10-2022, 06:45 AM

Something is off or it would appear BMW changed something in the way the power is put down???? This “S” vs “N” engine making it a true M engine is hogwash. There is nothing cryptic or special about what BMW is doing with this engine. It’s a in-house letter of designation of manufacturing without any additional attention or standards of manufacturing distinguishing between either engines. FYI. Look at the tag on the door and see.

I did a few casual Draggy runs of my 2020 X7M50i with 2800 miles on the odometer. The tank was full and I got several 0-60mph runs 4.1- 4.3 seconds. I guarantee if I ran with low fuel and a bit cooler I could do a 4.0 0-60mph. I am about 500 feet above sea level. My wife can get a 4.4 second 0-60mph just by mashing the pedal with me in the passenger seat in “sport mode”. It does it reliability without any special prep.

FYI: Not that it matters as you don’t want a full size luxury SUV ruined by a washboard full M ride as no one in their right mind will believe you are taking your X7 to a track considering most tracks would never let you drive on it.

Look at your manufacturer tags in your door jam and it will easily let you know if your BMW is considered a in-house built “M-car”

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MystroX5 Major General 6291 Rep 5,325 Posts Drives: 2020 X7 M50i/ 911 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0)	Something is off or it would appear BMW changed something in the way the power is put down???? This “S” vs “N” engine making it a true M engine is hogwash. There is nothing cryptic or special about what BMW is doing with this engine. It’s a in-house letter of designation of manufacturing without any additional attention or standards of manufacturing distinguishing between either engines. FYI. Look at the tag on the door and see. I did a few casual Draggy runs of my 2020 X7M50i with 2800 miles on the odometer. The tank was full and I got several 0-60mph runs 4.1- 4.3 seconds. I guarantee if I ran with low fuel and a bit cooler I could do a 4.0 0-60mph. I am about 500 feet above sea level. My wife can get a 4.4 second 0-60mph just by mashing the pedal with me in the passenger seat in “sport mode”. It does it reliability without any special prep. FYI: Not that it matters as you don’t want a full size luxury SUV ruined by a washboard full M ride as no one in their right mind will believe you are taking your X7 to a track considering most tracks would never let you drive on it. Look at your manufacturer tags in your door jam and it will easily let you know if your BMW is considered a in-house built “M-car” Last edited by MystroX5; 10-10-2022 at 07:14 AM..
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