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Its just that there is almost an X - vehicle for every series. All we are missing is an x2 now. The porsche cayenne fits right in with the x5 and ML segment. Do we really need anything bigger than that? Its just that BMW are producing so many cars that not only is it diluting the brand. but the core elements that made bmw's stand above the rest. Nowadays we have mercs and audis that drive better than bmws and thats what Im essentially getting at. The company is becoming like toyota for people with money (and i thought that was a job for lexus)
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Or have i gotten it wrong? About the L sized version, very intresting... I guess we're talking about 2017-18, since the E84 and F25 is not beeing replaced until then.
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The X7 will be bigger than the current X5. Both in size and be able to carry 7 people in comfort.
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Diluting the brand or not, BMW probably looks at Audi, Merc and Porsche and see that they make a good profit by expanding their model range. Audi has: Q3 Q5 Q7 MB has: G-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) GL-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) GLA-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) GLB-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) GLK-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) M-Class – Sports Utility Vehicle (SUV) R-Class – Multi Purpose Vehicle (MPV) That BMW expands their model range into X3, X4, X5, X6 and X7 isn't such a big deal IMO. In fact, it would have been a bigger problem if BMW was stuck in the past because of old rigid principles that meant they could only make sedans. Old dinosaurs that can't adapt to a changing market tend to disappear after a while... If the market wants premium SUV's, and are willing to pay, then BMW has to look into those opportunities. Even Porsche decided they had to this. And BMW isn't as exclusive and premium as Porsche is. BMW is a mass manufacturer and profit (short and long term) is what the shareholders want. |
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I think it is important to give people as many choices as possible to be able to stay with the brand they grew to like. It would be nice to have and at least in the US there will be a robust market for an x7. I see GLs and Escalades all the time here. I can't say I am very excited about the line up of BMW growing so much in the last two years - often with limited visual difference between the series 2, 3 and 4 models - but there is a clear demand for a larger BMW SUV that can comfortably carry 7 people which an x5 can't fulfill.
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As Boss330 said... its all about making a profit. |
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No business is in business to lose money. That being said, the brand dilution of BMW is getting scary real, or real scary. The feel of the new cars is getting softer and less confidence inspiring. I feel BMW, while keeping up with the Jones', is losing sight of the principles in which their company was founded on.
I believe the X7 will sell like hotcakes. As others have noted, there are tons of Escalades, Excursions and other 7 seat premium SUVs on the market. Now all they need to do is make their cars fun to drive again. (Read figure out electric steering feel).
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They've taken so long to come out with an X7 that my kids will be off to University and I won't need one.
Made do with several X5's over the years - tried a Toyota Sequoia for a few years but going from an M3 to a Toyota to drive to the cottage wasn't worth the extra space. Decided to pack less and heck I was comfortable…
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I hope that x7 will drive better than its comps. I test drove GL550 last year a number of times(as I was seriously considering it to replace my x6) and it gave me a lot less comfort with being able to handle speed than I anticipated. Not confidence inspiring for sure.
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The thing with BMW products are they absolutely nail the driving dynamics every time. Best in acceleration, braking, handling and overall driver feel/confidence. MB might have a little more luxury and Audi better interiors... but there is a reason why I love BMWs and that because it IS a drivers car. Dackel
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SCOTT26 could you possibly provide a time frame for the X7 release? Our growing family is in need of a true seven seater and I personally am trying very hard to keep the misses away from the MB GL550, with us being a long time BMW family.
Will the US market be getting the LWB X5 or just China? Thank you for all of the insight. Quote:
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