[jholderrealtor]

Ok.....real world examples: What big repairs have you done to your X7 that would have been expensive if you hadn't had your warranty?

Curious in general, but also deciding on the Endurance plan that covers all maintenance, even oil changes, brake pads, all scheduled services, basically everything except tires and general abuse. Finding out if it's a "pay X amount towards" versus a full reimbursement of the repair/ item.

Mine is a 2020 with 65,000 miles. This warranty is for the next 5 years or 100k miles for $8,100.

It's not a money issue, as such, more than peace of mind. I have had a dozen Mercedes and some were no issues, but my last S550 was a thousand here and there like crazy, to where it clouded the enjoyment of the car.

I paid cash for the car, so it's not like I have payments on this plus repairs. The way their cost goes, you just pay the first months payment of $230 and then it's 250 for 36 months. If you trade the car in less than that, you just cancel the contract. You do not have to pay out the remaining.

Thoughts?

[Saejin]

Really, has anyone ever kept a BMW after the warranty runs out?

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by Saejin

Really, has anyone ever kept a BMW after the warranty runs out?

Of course. I kept my E46 for 8 years and put 175k miles in it. Was very reliable. My wife has her X3 for 7+ years now. No issues. My friend has had his E46 for 19 years now and is still his daily commuter. Another friend has had her E60 for 18 years now and it still runs as well had the day she picked it up from the dealer with 5 miles in it. Nothing other than normal maintenance items.

[jholderrealtor]

Originally Posted by Saejin

Really, has anyone ever kept a BMW after the warranty runs out?

What an ignorant and useless response.

[thenew3]

Folks always complain about German car reliability. Do they know in Europe, most of the taxi fleet are made of German cars? If they were so unreliable, why would taxi fleets use them? They put hundreds of thousands of miles on those cars.
You will hardly ever see any Japanese cars used as taxi's in Europe compared to the # of German cars as taxi.

My family and friends have owned a lot of german vehicles and have all had very good reliability with them.

My friend with the E46 recently gave his 19 year old E46 to his wife for her commuter and got himself a new X5.

[Taktix1]

Originally Posted by Saejin

Really, has anyone ever kept a BMW after the warranty runs out?

We plan on keeping this car after the warranty runs out for sure. So I will report back when that time comes as it appears we are in the minority

[swissguy]

Originally Posted by thenew3

Folks always complain about German car reliability. Do they know in Europe, most of the taxi fleet are made of German cars? If they were so unreliable, why would taxi fleets use them? They put hundreds of thousands of miles on those cars.
You will hardly ever see any Japanese cars used as taxi's in Europe compared to the # of German cars as taxi.

My family and friends have owned a lot of german vehicles and have all had very good reliability with them.

My friend with the E46 recently gave his 19 year old E46 to his wife for her commuter and got himself a new X5.

Agreed. Bottom line...........if you maintain it and don't drive it like you stole it every time you get behind the wheel, it will last.

[BMW5and7]

$8,100 for 5 years or 100k miles from a third party warranty provider is way too much. A good deal is in the range of $4K from a third party warranty provider. $8000 is too close to what BMW charges....
This is all based on a full coverage (or at least a very small exclusions list) and very low/no deductible.

[Saejin]

Originally Posted by jholderrealtor

What an ignorant and useless response.

Hard to convey sarcasm in a text post. But have been told by quite a few that most original owners don’t keep past warranty.

[coastal2]

Originally Posted by swissguy

don't drive it like you stole it every time you get behind the wheel

But isn’t that why you get a BMW to begin with 🙃

[toddwalton]

Most of us have not experienced out of warranty expenses on our X7's because the car is too new for that. I've got an early 2019 and my factory warranty doesn't expire until mid-2023.

That said, my lease expired a few months ago after BMW extended it to the max, I decided to buy the car at its very low residual, and I immediately got the extended warranty for peace of mind. I'm waiting out the lease deals on 2023's and 2024's and will simply cancel the extended warranty and get a refund on the unused portion if it comes to that. If not, it'll be a 7 year old car and I'll sell or trade it it the week before the extended warranty runs out.

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

None of us have experienced out of warranty expenses on our X7's because the car is too new for that. I've got an early 2019 and my factory warranty doesn't expire until mid-2023.

That said, my lease expired a few months ago after BMW extended it to the max, I decided to buy the car at its very low residual, and I immediately got the extended warranty for peace of mind. I'm waiting out the lease deals on 2023's and 2024's and will simply cancel the extended warranty and get a refund on the unused portion if it comes to that. If not, it'll be a 7 year old car and I'll sell or trade it it the week before the extended warranty runs out.

Some folks drive a lot of miles, so they would've exceeded the 50k mile warranty.

I saw a few used at my local dealer with 70k-90k miles on them.

[toddwalton]

Originally Posted by thenew3

Some folks drive a lot of miles, so they would've exceeded the 50k mile warranty.

I saw a few used at my local dealer with 70k-90k miles on them.

Fair enough, you're right.

[bimmerdiesel]

I extended warranty on my first bmw. And it payed for itself but if I had to make that decision again I wouldn't. After 13 yrs of owning the car, it is still bullet proof. My second bmw has been out of warranty for 3yrs now and touchwood it has been fine. I mostly drive like I stole it and hence have spent quite a bit on tires and suspension. But that's about it. I think you have to make your decision based on reliability of the engine, transmission and electronics. If you have doubts get warranty or trade it in

[Angelo_GraysonMiniBMW]

Originally Posted by thenew3

Folks always complain about German car reliability. Do they know in Europe, most of the taxi fleet are made of German cars? If they were so unreliable, why would taxi fleets use them? They put hundreds of thousands of miles on those cars.
You will hardly ever see any Japanese cars used as taxi's in Europe compared to the # of German cars as taxi.

My family and friends have owned a lot of german vehicles and have all had very good reliability with them.

My friend with the E46 recently gave his 19 year old E46 to his wife for her commuter and got himself a new X5.

Aren’t many of them diesel powered? If so, that’s a very good reason why they last. Also, those taxi fleets aren’t fully optioned out with tons of electronic features. When my wife and I were in Europe, all the taxis I recall driving in were Mercs Eclass diesel, Peugeot and Volkswagen. They were nice but pretty basic features. In England, many of the Police cars are BMW and I don’t know if you’ve heard but they are having serious engine problems this last year.

If you want your Bimmer to have a better chance at longevity, don’t follow the oil change protocol for starters. Don’t wait 15k miles. Change oil and filter every 8-10k especially if this vehicle sees more stop n go traffic or used in the city as the oil will start to sludge. Most owners have no clue about this because they don’t change their own oil or had the oil tested for metal. Waiting 15k is BMW marketing BS.

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by Angelo1

Aren’t many of them diesel powered? If so, that’s a very good reason why they last. Also, those taxi fleets aren’t fully optioned out with tons of electronic features. When my wife and I were in Europe, all the taxis I recall driving in were Mercs Eclass diesel, Peugeot and Volkswagen. They were nice but pretty basic features. In England, many of the Police cars are BMW and I don’t know if you’ve heard but they are having serious engine problems this last year.

If you want your Bimmer to have a better chance at longevity, don’t follow the oil change protocol for starters. Don’t wait 15k miles. Change oil and filter every 8-10k especially if this vehicle sees more stop n go traffic or used in the city as the oil will start to sludge. Most owners have no clue about this because they don’t change their own oil or had the oil tested for metal. Waiting 15k is BMW marketing BS.

All the ones I've owned and that have been owned by my friends are all gas/petrol powered.
We all followed BMW recommended maintenance intervals. In the case of my E46, it sometimes went 18k miles between oil changes (based on the on board computer recommendation). I've sent those oil samples to blackstone labs and they always came back as good for continued use and no abnormal wear metals. (even after 175k miles).

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by Angelo1

Aren’t many of them diesel powered? If so, that’s a very good reason why they last. Also, those taxi fleets aren’t fully optioned out with tons of electronic features. When my wife and I were in Europe, all the taxis I recall driving in were Mercs Eclass diesel, Peugeot and Volkswagen. They were nice but pretty basic features. In England, many of the Police cars are BMW and I don’t know if you’ve heard but they are having serious engine problems this last year.

If you want your Bimmer to have a better chance at longevity, don’t follow the oil change protocol for starters. Don’t wait 15k miles. Change oil and filter every 8-10k especially if this vehicle sees more stop n go traffic or used in the city as the oil will start to sludge. Most owners have no clue about this because they don’t change their own oil or had the oil tested for metal. Waiting 15k is BMW marketing BS.

I was an agreement with everything you wrote, until I got to the point when you recommend that manufacturer oil change protocol/interval should not be followed, then I stopped reading. There is no reason for manufacturers to overestimate this, nor that it gives them any marketing advantage whatsoever. They don’t even emphasize it in their marketing stuff. Not following the factory oil change intervals and going for shorter ones instead is a waste of money. Companies producing oil are the one enjoying spreading myth of the silly short 3K miles intervals. Even many Honda vehicles are based on 10K miles interval. I had 3 vehciles in the past that have reached the 250K miles before I let them go, two of them are german and one was Japanese, and I have been doing the 10K oil change interval on all of them from 0 miles to 250K miles, and I never ever had any engine related issues.

[MAXKONG]

Originally Posted by Saejin

Really, has anyone ever kept a BMW after the warranty runs out?

SMH

[bimmerdiesel]

Originally Posted by Saejin

Hard to convey sarcasm in a text post. But have been told by quite a few that most original owners don’t keep past warranty.

I m probably an exception then. My first and oldest is 13yrs and don't plan to trade it in or others. I need to figure out exit strategy when engine or transmission fails. Probably tow it to junkyard

[Angelo_GraysonMiniBMW]

Originally Posted by thenew3

All the ones I've owned and that have been owned by my friends are all gas/petrol powered.
We all followed BMW recommended maintenance intervals. In the case of my E46, it sometimes went 18k miles between oil changes (based on the on board computer recommendation). I've sent those oil samples to blackstone labs and they always came back as good for continued use and no abnormal wear metals. (even after 175k miles).

That’s great to hear. Blackstone labs is fantastic.

[NGT2]

I have plenty of warranty time left on my '21 X7 40i. And a year of CPO on the back end. It only has 12k miles and we will only do 10-12k miles per year.

But I really love it and don't see any reason we would trade it before that warranty runs out, if it proves to be a reliable car. If we hold onto it for 5+ years, I'll do an extended warranty. It's the electronics that make me nervous. And maybe suspension, but coverage there depends on your exclusions. The B58 is solid and the transmission in these seem solid also. I'm not really worried about catastrophic power train failure at all.

And any minor mechanical repairs are so expensive with BMW, I feel it's got a decent chance of breaking even. Which is fine. I don't buy it because I want to bend the warranty company over - no one likes being in the shop!