[X7NJ]

Lots of tire threads on here but most discuss either rims or 22"s.

I've been reading on these forums that generally speaking we shouldn't expect any all season tires on our cars to last more than 10-15K miles. Is this true? If so that seems kinda ridiculous.

I just picked up my car less than a month ago and have less than 1K miles on my OEM Continental Alenza Sport A/S 285/45R 21 RFTs. I was thinking about selling them and replacing with better handling and or tread life in non-RFTs, but reading through the forums / tirerack, it seems such a limited selection of decent tires available in our size unfortunately.

Looking to get people's thoughts on the following tires:

OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S RFT
OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S NON-rft
Continental CrossContact LX Sport A/S NON-rft
Any other decent tires??
How about +/- size tires? But maybe issues with speedometer, drivetrain, etc?

On the following criteria:

- Treadlife (anyone have more than 15K miles/current tread depth?)
- Wet handling
- Light/Medium Snow Handling
- Noise

Lastly, what is the most you think I could ask/get for my OEMs ($420 new on tirerack)?

Thanks!
PS. EDITED for questions/clarity.

[X7NJ]

I'll add that so far the ride and handling on the OEM RFTs has been pretty great so far, but haven't tested really in rain or snow. Super plush ride and the quietest car I've ever been in, but then again I'm coming from a 2019 Ford Explorer Sport vs. X7 with air suspension (and rated super quiet on MT or RT) so not a fair comparison lol.

[dmanb2b]

We're much alike. I ended up sticking with our Continental CrossContact LX run-flats (21"). The resale market on used tires is OK at the moment, but I wouldn't expect to get more than $1K from resale. We're at 11k miles and treadwear has been great so far. If I had to guess will hit 30K+ easily. I hate runflats, but the swap just isn't worth it for me on this car with air suspension. I will swap to go flats when/if I get to end of life on these.

The 10-20K tire wear you are hearing about is the 22" setups with summer/softer compound tires and a lower treadwear rating.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by X7NJ

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Looking to get people's thoughts on the following tires:

OEM Continental Alenza Sport A/S RFT
OEM Continental Alenza Sport A/S NON-rft
Continental CrossContact LX Sport A/S NON-rft
Any other decent tires??
How about +/- size tires? But maybe issues with speedometer, drivetrain, etc?

On the following criteria:

- Treadlife (anyone have more than 15K miles/current tread depth?)
- Wet handling
- Light/Medium Snow Handling
- Noise

....

I think you meant :

OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S RFT
OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S NON-rft

Its pretty much these two Alenza Sport or CrossContact LX Sport. While searching for tires I also came across Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S but didn't get much feedback about it

I went with Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S RFT when I downsized from 22". Not driven it much but compared to the 22" RFT that I had its relatively quiet. you can find that in this thread => https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1885971

I had 15K on 22" summer tires when I switched and as per SA it had 4/32" (probably 50% worn out) in the back and 6/32" in the front, so some more miles can be put on it.

[DSTJ99]

Just had ours inspected by BMW at 17k miles and the 21" Alenza RFTs were estimated to make it to 25k-27.5k miles based on current wear. I'll probably replace them with same tire next fall as they have been pretty decent. Good in rain and quiet enough for me. Have not tried them in the snow.

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by Mail4loys

I had 15K on 22" summer tires when I switched and as per SA it had 4/32" (probably 50% worn out) in the back and 6/32" in the front, so some more miles can be put on it.

4/32" is more than 50% worn out. Most new tires have 10/32" tread. Once you get to 4/32" it has basically worn to the point where wet traction is severely reduced. 2/32" is legal minimum. Many places recommend replacing once you reach 4/32". So at 4/32" you are worn out, not 50% worn out.

[Mail4loys]

Originally Posted by thenew3

4/32" is more than 50% worn out. Most new tires have 10/32" tread. Once you get to 4/32" it has basically worn to the point where wet traction is severely reduced. 2/32" is legal minimum. Many places recommend replacing once you reach 4/32". So at 4/32" you are worn out, not 50% worn out.

This is how the tech explained to me , Because 2/32" is the legal minimum, worn out is measured for 8/32" (for a 10/32" excluding legal limit). When it get to 2/32" it is recommended to change. May be different places describe it differently. But the net of it is, 15k on 22" and it has some more miles before changing it

[X7NJ]

Originally Posted by dmanb2b

We're much alike. I ended up sticking with our Continental CrossContact LX run-flats (21"). The resale market on used tires is OK at the moment, but I wouldn't expect to get more than $1K from resale. We're at 11k miles and treadwear has been great so far. If I had to guess will hit 30K+ easily. I hate runflats, but the swap just isn't worth it for me on this car with air suspension. I will swap to go flats when/if I get to end of life on these.

The 10-20K tire wear you are hearing about is the 22" setups with summer/softer compound tires and a lower treadwear rating.

Originally Posted by dmanb2b

We're much alike. I ended up sticking with our Continental CrossContact LX run-flats (21"). The resale market on used tires is OK at the moment, but I wouldn't expect to get more than $1K from resale. We're at 11k miles and treadwear has been great so far. If I had to guess will hit 30K+ easily. I hate runflats, but the swap just isn't worth it for me on this car with air suspension. I will swap to go flats when/if I get to end of life on these.

The 10-20K tire wear you are hearing about is the 22" setups with summer/softer compound tires and a lower treadwear rating.

Thanks, I appreciate the response, and thoughts on resale market. Good to know 21" A/S will have better treadwear.

Not going to sell my Alenza RFTs, as it's just not worth all the hassle especially with the other 2 tires being so expensive.

[X7NJ]

[QUOTE=Mail4loys;28408068]

Originally Posted by X7NJ

...

I think you meant :

OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S RFT
OEM Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S NON-rft

Its pretty much these two Alenza Sport or CrossContact LX Sport. While searching for tires I also came across Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S but didn't get much feedback about it

I went with Bridgestone Alenza Sport A/S RFT when I downsized from 22". Not driven it much but compared to the 22" RFT that I had its relatively quiet. you can find that in this thread => https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1885971

I had 15K on 22" summer tires when I switched and as per SA it had 4/32" (probably 50% worn out) in the back and 6/32" in the front, so some more miles can be put on it.

haha yes thanks I meant Bridgestone, will edit OP. Appreciate your thoughts. It really kinda sucks that the best tires out there aren't available in our 21"s. Pricing seems so much better too.

Really almost considering going with different widths and slightly larger/smaller overall diameter, but do have concerns about damaging drivetrain and speedometer/mileage/etc. being off. Maybe someone can speak to that.

[X7NJ]

Originally Posted by DSTJ99

Just had ours inspected by BMW at 17k miles and the 21" Alenza RFTs were estimated to make it to 25k-27.5k miles based on current wear. I'll probably replace them with same tire next fall as they have been pretty decent. Good in rain and quiet enough for me. Have not tried them in the snow.

Thanks for your response. Good to know they're good in rain and decent tread wear.

Think I'm going with the Continental CrossContact LX Sport A/S NON-rfts after these are done. MystroX5 liked them a lot in the other thread, and I have the spare so can do NON-rfts (plus I think they're about $40 less each tire vs RFTs).

[Wanderer73]

I'm at ~20k with my 21" OEM CrossContact LX Sport A/S RF and at 2/32. I just ordered the same non-rf versions. I'd keep your current Bridgestones. Very few options out there until you get into a dedicated snow tire.

[X7NJ]

Originally Posted by Wanderer73

I'm at ~20k with my 21" OEM CrossContact LX Sport A/S RF and at 2/32. I just ordered the same non-rf versions. I'd keep your current Bridgestones. Very few options out there until you get into a dedicated snow tire.

Yeah definitely don't want/need snow tires.

Oh wow, that's not really great treadlife lol. Maybe RFTs play a part in reduced treadwear?

How's your driving style...is it spirited 😉? Do you push the tires on highway entrance/exit ramps?

[Wanderer73]

Yeah, 20k sucks, but it is what it is. They're not bald, but I wouldn't drive them in the snow right now. I'm a pretty spirited driver, so I'm not surprised.

[mitch57]

21" Bridgestone Alenza A/S Sport NON Run flat tires. I'm on my second set. The originals that came with the vehicle could have gone 40K easy! I changed them out at 35K because I didn't want to drive the 5K miles left on the tires in the winter. Plus, they're about the least expensive 21" tire out there.

I was born and grew up in Montana and Wyoming and I've driven on about every tire out there in my 55 years of driving. These tires are more than adequate in a multitude of driving conditions.

I currently live in the Pacific Northwest with tons of rain and some snow every year. They are a very competent All Season all around tire in my opinion.

You couldn't pay me to put RUN Flats on the X7. I've driven loaner X7s with run flats and I knew it within 20 seconds of driving the car.

Run Flat Tires SUCK!!!

[sbkim]

Originally Posted by X7NJ

Lots of tire threads on here but most discuss either rims or 22"s.

I've been reading on these forums that generally speaking we shouldn't expect any all season tires on our cars to last more than 10-15K miles. Is this true? If so that seems kinda ridiculous.

We have 2021 M50 with 21" Bridgestone with less than 20K miles. My dealer just called to let me know that rear tires are bald and needs replacement. I believe they are 285 45 21's and was shocked to find out they are over $400 each.

Hoping to find less expense alternatives given that the car is a lease to be return in about a year. Any suggestions for all season?

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by sbkim

We have 2021 M50 with 21" Bridgestone with less than 20K miles. My dealer just called to let me know that rear tires are bald and needs replacement. I believe they are 285 45 21's and was shocked to find out they are over $400 each.

Hoping to find less expense alternatives given that the car is a lease to be return in about a year. Any suggestions for all season?

Maybe that's a M50 issue Mitch57 got 35k out of the bridgestone, I'm at 12k and my bridgestone still has 8/32" tread left and should easily make it 35k miles.

The huge torque from the M50 could be eating tires. (common issue with EV's as well).

[sbkim]

Originally Posted by thenew3

Maybe that's a M50 issue Mitch57 got 35k out of the bridgestone, I'm at 12k and my bridgestone still has 8/32" tread left and should easily make it 35k miles.

The huge torque from the M50 could be eating tires. (common issue with EV's as well).

Yep, I think my wife has been pretty aggressive on the throttle

Quick question - I was curious if the Bridgestone Alenza RFT has always been $430 each or is this inflated price due to supply issue? I didn't expect to be so expensive. Thanks

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by sbkim

Yep, I think my wife has been pretty aggressive on the throttle

Quick question - I was curious if the Bridgestone Alenza RFT has always been $430 each or is this inflated price due to supply issue? I didn't expect to be so expensive. Thanks

So I have the non run flat version of the Alenza. They were about $240 each from tirerack a year ago. The run flat version used to go for about $270 each. Now the non run flat is like $410 and the run flat version is about $430 and is still going up.

I think this is mostly due to the global rubber shortage and the logistic issues.

[Al Pinã]

Originally Posted by sbkim

We have 2021 M50 with 21" Bridgestone with less than 20K miles. My dealer just called to let me know that rear tires are bald and needs replacement. I believe they are 285 45 21's and was shocked to find out they are over $400 each.

Hoping to find less expense alternatives given that the car is a lease to be return in about a year. Any suggestions for all season?

If you're near a major metropolitan area I'd try Offer Up or Craigslist for used rubber, especially on a lease return. No sense in buying new and giving BMW extra money they don't need.

I just did this with my 750i and they didn't even realize I replaced the OEM Pirelli runflats with regular tires.

[sbkim]

Originally Posted by thenew3

So I have the non run flat version of the Alenza. They were about $240 each from tirerack a year ago. The run flat version used to go for about $270 each. Now the non run flat is like $410 and the run flat version is about $430 and is still going up.

I think this is mostly due to the global rubber shortage and the logistic issues.

Yikes

[sbkim]

Originally Posted by Al Pinã

If you're near a major metropolitan area I'd try Offer Up or Craigslist for used rubber, especially on a lease return. No sense in buying new and giving BMW extra money they don't need.

I just did this with my 750i and they didn't even realize I replaced the OEM Pirelli runflats with regular tires.

Yep, totally agree. Search begins.