[momo3605]

Originally Posted by BimmerFan

Okay I am a bit confused and I don't have my spec sheet handy, but is the suspension on the M sport package the same as that on the sport line?

Vic

Yes. You guys have the same suspension but different opinions haha. VIP thinks the car is still soft with the Dinan Springs, and you think it's better.

[Dippydo]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Yes. You guys have the same suspension but different opinions haha. VIP thinks the car is still soft with the Dinan Springs, and you think it's better.

No I think VIP does not have the 704 since his car is a sport without the option. He just bought the M Sport setup but not yet installed.

[BimmerFan]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

No I think VIP does not have the 704 since his car is a sport without the option. He just bought the M Sport setup but not yet installed.

Ah okay. Now it all makes sense to me. When he asked about DHP, I got confused. I know for certain I have the M sport suspension. If that is what he is having installed then he is in for a pleasant surprise. My car in Sport mode is simply perfect because the suspension stiffen up further from comfort mode along with the steering wheel getting tighter. Could anyone with the Dinan spring kit please scan and post the recommend alignment setting that came in the box with the springs? I gave mine to the alignment tech. and he lost it.

Vic

[FeckinSpaceman]

Let me start by saying that your car looks great! Glad you are happy with the results....

Now I'm not being negative at all here......but does anyone know if these will be any lower after they settle?

I have really been considering these Dinan springs but I really can't tell much difference from the stock before photo you posted? Maybe it's just the pictures?

I am running M Sport with DHP .... I just ordered my new wheels yesterday, 20's, so I am really trying to decide on suspension like ASAP. I really like my DHP option don't want to lose it....BUT I am not sure that I personally will be happy with the "drop" I am seeing? Feel like I am running out of options.

Again Bimmerfan your car looks great.

VIP can you comment on springs settling?

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

No I think VIP does not have the 704 since his car is a sport without the option. He just bought the M Sport setup but not yet installed.

Wrongwrongwrong. Sportline comes STANDARD with 704. He doesn't have the DHP option and neither does OP. m sport and sportline use the exact same suspension.

edit: I see the confusion. Dippydo. In the US, sportline comes standard with 704. In Europe it must be different.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by BimmerFan

Ah okay. Now it all makes sense to me. When he asked about DHP, I got confused. I know for certain I have the M sport suspension. If that is what he is having installed then he is in for a pleasant surprise. My car in Sport mode is simply perfect because the suspension stiffen up further from comfort mode along with the steering wheel getting tighter. Could anyone with the Dinan spring kit please scan and post the recommend alignment setting that came in the box with the springs? I gave mine to the alignment tech. and he lost it.

Vic

There is a lot of confusion here...how can your suspension get stiffer if you don't have DHP. DHP is the adaptive M suspension which was a $1000 package when you ordered your car. Without DHP, your car does not have multiple stiffnesses. VIP also has sport suspension on his sportline which is the same suspension you have.

[Dippydo]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Wrongwrongwrong. Sportline comes STANDARD with 704. He doesn't have the DHP option and neither does OP. m sport and sportline use the exact same suspension.

edit: I see the confusion. Dippydo. In the US, sportline comes standard with 704. In Europe it must be different.

I think it varied on year. When I was looking (2012), sport line did not include the sport 704 suspension. That was an option. Sport line then was just cosmetics (wiskers, better seats, wheels), speed limiter increased and additional oil cooler. Looking now at the 2014 they label it as "sport suspension" as part of the sport package, but not sure when that changed. And now on the order for M SPort they call it "M Sport Suspension". Confusing... I know Jamesviggen confirmed this before on another tread.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

I think it varied on year. When I was looking (2012), sport line did not include the sport 704 suspension. That was an option. Sport line then was just cosmetics (wiskers, better seats, wheels), speed limiter increased and additional oil cooler. Looking now at the 2014 they label it as "sport suspension" as part of the sport package, but not sure when that changed. And now on the order for M SPort they call it "M Sport Suspension". Confusing... I know Jamesviggen confirmed this before on another tread.

Jamesviggen confirmed that it was the same, opposite of what you're saying. Anyway, you can see for yourself here:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609252

704 standard on sportline

[ƒ°]

Sport Line and M-Sport are the exact same springs (in the US) for their respective models; 335i vs 328i. But M-Performance is 10mm lower than Sport/M-Sport and I imagine stiffer. VIP is getting the M-Performance springs. NOT M-Sport springs.

So to recap...

Standard springs - Sport/M-Sport springs (10mm lower) - M-Performance springs (20mm lower)

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by Number

Sport Line and M-Sport are the exact same springs (in the US) for their respective models; 335i vs 328i. But M-Performance is 10mm lower than Sport/M-Sport and I imagine stiffer. VIP is getting the M-Performance springs. NOT M-Sport springs.

So to recap...

Standard springs - Sport/M-Sport springs (10mm lower) - M-Performance springs (20mm lower)

Correct! My only point was that vip tried Dinan springs on Sport/M-sport suspension and thought it was too soft, so now he's trying M-perf suspension

[Dippydo]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Correct! My only point was that vip tried Dinan springs on Sport/M-sport suspension and thought it was too soft, so now he's trying M-perf suspension

Ahhh there's the confusion. They throw M-Performance behind and that changes it a bit with the additional 10mm drop. Sorry.. Been a while since that discussion was a topic.

[ƒ°]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

I think it varied on year. When I was looking (2012), sport line did not include the sport 704 suspension. That was an option. Sport line then was just cosmetics (wiskers, better seats, wheels), speed limiter increased and additional oil cooler. Looking now at the 2014 they label it as "sport suspension" as part of the sport package, but not sure when that changed. And now on the order for M SPort they call it "M Sport Suspension". Confusing... I know Jamesviggen confirmed this before on another tread.

Where are you located? I have a 2012 335i Sport Line (USA) which was ordered right after the initial dealer test fleet and the regular suspension was not an option for the Sport Line. Sport Line always came with the 704.

[Dippydo]

Originally Posted by Number

Where are you located? I have a 2012 335i Sport Line (USA) which was ordered right after the initial dealer test fleet and the regular suspension was not an option for the Sport Line. Sport Line always came with the 704.

I am in Minneapolis. I do not have a sport but was looking at them and the dealer guy told me that. He also did not know what DHP was so I probably should have known. Since I knew I was swapping out for coil overs I went with a base. It was my first BMW and I was actually looking for a 2011 335i, so I was not completely up on the BMW options when I bought. Figured hell I could get a new 2012 for the price of a used 335 so went that route.

[Dippydo]

BTW I think you nailed it with the confusion of the Sport/M Sport with M Performance...

[ƒ°]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

I am in Minneapolis. I do not have a sport but was looking at them and the dealer guy told me that. He also did not know what DHP was so I probably should have known. Since I knew I was swapping out for coil overs I went with a base. It was my first BMW and I was actually looking for a 2011 335i, so I was not completely up on the BMW options when I bought. Figured hell I could get a new 2012 for the price of a used 335 so went that route.

Ahhh... dealer guys. Funny because my dealer guy also had some major misinformation while I had the correct information that I gathered from this forum. Dealer guy and I got into an argument about certain details of the order which culminated in me canceling my order. Couple hours later, the sales manager called me to apologize because they did some research and found out I was correct. To get me back on the table, they offered the car to me at invoice.

This was the fifth car that I've purchased new, and every single time the salesmen at the dealership barely knew anything about the cars other than what you can read on the brochure. I always smile at them when they quote the brochures word for word in their sales pitch.

[BimmerFan]

Originally Posted by PabloK

Looks good!!

Thanks!

[BimmerFan]

Originally Posted by momo3605

There is a lot of confusion here...how can your suspension get stiffer if you don't have DHP. DHP is the adaptive M suspension which was a $1000 package when you ordered your car. Without DHP, your car does not have multiple stiffnesses. VIP also has sport suspension on his sportline which is the same suspension you have.

Haha 'suspension stiffnesses' is an actual phrase. Well, I dunno if its in my mind perhaps it is, but I feel a difference in suspension firmness with sport mode engaged. maybe it is the steering throwing off my butt dyno.

Vic

[FeckinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by BimmerFan

Haha 'suspension stiffnesses' is an actual phrase. Well, I dunno if its in my mind perhaps it is, but I feel a difference in suspension firmness with sport mode engaged. maybe it is the steering throwing off my butt dyno.

Vic

Are you sure you don't have DHP?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...T8gBkGZurpALJw

[BimmerFan]

Well, if you are asking if I have the same feature as the car in the video, then yes I do have a sport + mode and when activated, Dynamic traction control is engaged. I guess it comes standard on 2014 models because I did not select it when building my car in late 2013. I just selected the Msport package. I am almost certain that when I engage sport mode my suspension becomes firmer. I also noticed the black Dakota leather option I have is not available as a stand alone option anymore.

Vic

[FeckinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by BimmerFan

I asked my sales rep to send me my options sheet earlier today and DHP was definitely not on it, but the M sport suspension is. Edmonds does state that the M sport suspension is deleted if the sport line with DHP is selected when using the 'build your own' tool for the 2014 model year. Not sure if this resolves anything, but just throwing that out there.

Vic

Makes sense! Your butt is just lying to you about the stiffer ride

[BimmerFan]

Originally Posted by FeckinSpaceman

Makes sense! Your butt is just lying to you about the stiffer ride

Funny..I deleted that post.

Vic

[BimmerFan]

Originally Posted by FeckinSpaceman

Let me start by saying that your car looks great! Glad you are happy with the results....

Now I'm not being negative at all here......but does anyone know if these will be any lower after they settle?

I have really been considering these Dinan springs but I really can't tell much difference from the stock before photo you posted? Maybe it's just the pictures?

I am running M Sport with DHP .... I just ordered my new wheels yesterday, 20's, so I am really trying to decide on suspension like ASAP. I really like my DHP option don't want to lose it....BUT I am not sure that I personally will be happy with the "drop" I am seeing? Feel like I am running out of options.

Again Bimmerfan your car looks great.

VIP can you comment on springs settling?

Thanks for the compliment. If you want an aggressive drop. A coilover system is probably your best best. You can't beat the flexibility of adjusting the height if things rub. My aim was mainly for a better handling ride with less squat and dive. The drop for me was just an added bonus. If the car came stock from the factory and rode like it does now without the drop, I wouldn't have touched it. I must also warn you that you should pick your wheels carefully when going coilovers. Certain offsets, tire sizes and wheel dimentions just don't play nice with certain coilovers....watch out for the shaft of the dampers on coilovers. Also, if you've never had a coilover system before, find someone who has one installed and ask for a ride just to have an idea of how they ride before you make a decision because if you end up not liking it, labor charges is a mother.

Vic