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      11-17-2022, 07:48 AM   #1849
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It's so funny how dealers will do everything they can do get you to use BMWFS even if they have a higher rate. The negligible $750 loyalty credit is meaningless when they are 2-3 pts higher on a 72 month loan.
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      11-17-2022, 09:52 AM   #1850
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It's so funny how dealers will do everything they can do get you to use BMWFS even if they have a higher rate. The negligible $750 loyalty credit is meaningless when they are 2-3 pts higher on a 72 month loan.
well, they keep the bump over the buy rate and get a bonus for the loans through bmwfs.
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Have an X7 being delivered next week, not in huge rush to get it - do not need to get rid of my AMG GLE 53.

Here is detail.. I’m in Colorado. Good deal…bad deal, haven’t signed yet?
MSRP - 90,880
Rebate - 750
Discount -2000
Adjusted price 88,130
Per a Plate 395.00

Total purchase - 88,525
Trade allowance (lease trade in so no tax benefit) - 70,000
Trade difference - 18525
Tax - 7865.13

Title $37.20
Net price 26427
Trade pay off - 65,575
Cash down - $5,000
Balance - $87,002.34

60 months at 1,743
Lease at 1,422 for 36 months (obviously with above upfront taxes removed)
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      11-20-2022, 08:04 AM   #1852
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Have an X7 being delivered next week, not in huge rush to get it - do not need to get rid of my AMG GLE 53.

Here is detail.. I'm in Colorado. Good deal…bad deal, haven't signed yet?
MSRP - 90,880
Rebate - 750
Discount -2000
Adjusted price 88,130
Per a Plate 395.00

Total purchase - 88,525
Trade allowance (lease trade in so no tax benefit) - 70,000
Trade difference - 18525
Tax - 7865.13

Title $37.20
Net price 26427
Trade pay off - 65,575
Cash down - $5,000
Balance - $87,002.34

60 months at 1,743
Lease at 1,422 for 36 months (obviously with above upfront taxes removed)
Can't comment on the trade-in aspect but $2k off sticker is a great deal yes.
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      11-20-2022, 08:34 AM   #1853
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Is BMW still doing Spartanburg factory delivery?
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      11-20-2022, 09:18 AM   #1854
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Is 0.0025 good MF?
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      11-20-2022, 10:51 AM   #1855
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Is 0.0025 good MF?
I have responded to your MF question in your other thread, but I'll repeat this here again. The dealer is marking up the MF by one point.
The current November MF BMW buy rate is .0021, which translates to 5.04% interest rate. Your dealer is selling it to you at .0025, which translates to 6.0%.
Seems like you have few options:
1. You can convince your dealer to sell at .0021 MF
2. Ask for additional discount which equates to the amount you would be overpaying by accepting the higher MF
3. Walk away and go to another dealer
4. Etc…
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      11-20-2022, 12:25 PM   #1856
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      11-20-2022, 03:58 PM   #1857
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I have responded to your MF question in your other thread, but I'll repeat this here again. The dealer is marking up the MF by one point.
The current November MF BMW buy rate is .0021, which translates to 5.04% interest rate. Your dealer is selling it to you at .0025, which translates to 6.0%.
Seems like you have few options:
1. You can convince your dealer to sell at .0021 MF
2. Ask for additional discount which equates to the amount you would be overpaying by accepting the higher MF
3. Walk away and go to another dealer
4. Etc…
Mind sharing November’s financing rate for 60 months, top-tier credit? I read somewhere it was 4.79 and received mark-ups of up to 5.79 at one particular dealership. Thanks.
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      11-20-2022, 04:21 PM   #1858
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I have responded to your MF question in your other thread, but I'll repeat this here again. The dealer is marking up the MF by one point.
The current November MF BMW buy rate is .0021, which translates to 5.04% interest rate. Your dealer is selling it to you at .0025, which translates to 6.0%.
Seems like you have few options:
1. You can convince your dealer to sell at .0021 MF
2. Ask for additional discount which equates to the amount you would be overpaying by accepting the higher MF
3. Walk away and go to another dealer
4. Etc…
Mind sharing November's financing rate for 60 months, top-tier credit? I read somewhere it was 4.79 and received mark-ups of up to 5.79 at one particular dealership. Thanks.
I recommend going to Edmunds BMW forum and ask a question there. That's the source I used. One of the moderators on that forum has access to the current BMW lease/finance rates, loyalty information for each BMW model and locale.
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      11-21-2022, 05:16 PM   #1859
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I recommend going to Edmunds BMW forum and ask a question there. That's the source I used. One of the moderators on that forum has access to the current BMW lease/finance rates, loyalty information for each BMW model and locale.
Thank you - Edmunds confirmed it is 4.79 for the month of November.

Does anyone know of any dealers on the East Coast that are discounting MSRP and charging the standard 4.79 finance rate?
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      11-24-2022, 08:04 PM   #1860
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The best I've seen is a broker doing 4% off+loyalty. He uses a couple of dealers in the NY,NJ,PA area.
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The best I've seen is a broker doing 4% off+loyalty. He uses a couple of dealers in the NY,NJ,PA area.
Mind sharing the broker info?
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      11-28-2022, 10:56 PM   #1862
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I sent so many customers to my dealer that they ask me to stop referring.
Wow really? Thought car salesman are commission based more they sell more they make!
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Is BMW still doing Spartanburg factory delivery?
Yes. I am scheduled for Jan 11 , 2023.
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Just got a 2023 M60i for 3% under MSRP with 3.99% financing plus 750 in loyalty.
Do you mind sharing the dealer info? Thanks
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Yes. I am scheduled for Jan 11 , 2023.
Can you share the details, my dealer told me this was not possible, however logistically it makes more sense for me to do that then have the car shipped to CA (the dealer) and then back again.
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I have responded to your MF question in your other thread, but I'll repeat this here again. The dealer is marking up the MF by one point.
The current November MF BMW buy rate is .0021, which translates to 5.04% interest rate. Your dealer is selling it to you at .0025, which translates to 6.0%.
Seems like you have few options:
1. You can convince your dealer to sell at .0021 MF
2. Ask for additional discount which equates to the amount you would be overpaying by accepting the higher MF
3. Walk away and go to another dealer
4. Etc…
For December BMWFS lowered the Lease Money Factor down to .00170
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3.99% finance rate

BMW is offering 3.99 and 4.99% financing until 1/3/2023. Anyone with any leads on a good deal on the sale price to share?
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That's amazing. Best I could find is $1k off of MSRP across all the dealers in MA, NH and CT.
Same here and in Bay Area. Contacted dealers across the state and recommended here and no one would go below 1k discount and maximum were MSRP.
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Can you share the details, my dealer told me this was not possible, however logistically it makes more sense for me to do that then have the car shipped to CA (the dealer) and then back again.
The dealer submit the request to PCD and then you get an email from PCD regarding the date for PCD. I am planning to drive back to the Bay Area. If you don’t plan on driving your car back you need to arrange your own shipping at your own cost dealer won’t pay for it. Also my local dealer denied PCD requests as well so I contacted another dealer and they agreed.
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in Chicago, getting anywhere from 3%-5% below MSRP.
Nope. Contacted almost every dealer and only 1k below msrp and most were msrp and some didn’t even respond back.
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