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      03-06-2019, 09:48 AM   #23
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Thanks JFU! Hard to believe that the X7 is already getting a facelift...6 months after debut.
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Thanks JFU! Hard to believe that the X7 is already getting a facelift...6 months after debut.
It looks like production is slated to start for the X7 LCI 08/2022, so as a '23 model and sticking to the usual timeline.
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Whops, read that wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.
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Whops, read that wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.
No problems, I read it wrong the first time too and thought like you did
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Many of us have been told very aggressive time lines by our CA's when ordering/ purchasing only to be disappointed later by the reality of delays and miscommunications. I would take what the salesmen say and what online tracker says with grain of salt. My vehicle has gone from production begins back to order received 3 times, then when production began it's sat in quality check for 2 weeks, now it's been stuck in waiting for carrier for almost a week. My salesman called me Monday and told me it should be at dealer Friday. It still hasn't left factory and it's weds. Doubt it's leaving anytime soon or making it to CT by Friday. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here and maybe it's just my build but just be cautious. Anyway, best wishes Hope your build goes the opposite of mine and is at your dealer in short order
I hear ya, I waited 5 months for my 2018 M5, but that was a pre-order. Thanks for the well wishes and best of luck on your build as well!
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yeah i think 1-3 weeks from now totally feasible
One week would rock, but not holding my breath! Had to park my Wife's '17 GLS going back on lease early, due to over mileage and out of warranty. She's using my 73 yr old Mother's E350, which my Mom wants back ASAP! Don't know why, it's a '16 w/ only 7k on the clock! lol
Just pay the 25c mileage overage on the gls, cheaper than renting a car and parking the gls.
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Just pay the 25c mileage overage on the gls, cheaper than renting a car and parking the gls.
Ha! I worked all the numbers already and not renting. I have 9 months left on lease. I have to take a warranty for 20k miles / $3,500, by 12/31 will have to pay an anticipated 35k over mileage at $9k, then 9 payments @ $950ea / $8,125. So if I kept the GLS till lease end, it would cost me $2,200 a month for 9 months. Soon as X7 comes in, dumping GLS and hated the SUV to boot. Ate tires and brakes for lunch, multiple leaks and not very reliable @ 57k on the clock. Had two GLS before this, much better quality.
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Ha! I worked all the numbers already and not renting. I have 9 months left on lease. I have to take a warranty for 20k miles / $3,500, by 12/31 will have to pay an anticipated 35k over mileage at $9k, then 9 payments @ $950ea / $8,125. So if I kept the GLS till lease end, it would cost me $2,200 a month for 9 months. Soon as X7 comes in, dumping GLS and hated the SUV to boot. Ate tires and brakes for lunch, multiple leaks and not very reliable @ 57k on the clock. Had two GLS before this, much better quality.
Is the steering and handling with the EPS as bad as everyone says about the current GLS?I have the LCI MY10 GL and the steering feel and handling are very good with the hydraulic system.
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Is the steering and handling with the EPS as bad as everyone says about the current GLS?I have the LCI MY10 GL and the steering feel and handling are very good with the hydraulic system.
I'm not a very good judge here, because I drive an M5 everyday. lol
When I drive it on fam dam road trips, I hate it in comfort and switch all to sport mode. I'll post a comparison to the X7 once I get it. FYI, last year of current GLS is '19, complete overhaul for 2020 to combat the X7. Will be out late this year.
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Just pay the 25c mileage overage on the gls, cheaper than renting a car and parking the gls.
Ha! I worked all the numbers already and not renting. I have 9 months left on lease. I have to take a warranty for 20k miles / $3,500, by 12/31 will have to pay an anticipated 35k over mileage at $9k, then 9 payments @ $950ea / $8,125. So if I kept the GLS till lease end, it would cost me $2,200 a month for 9 months. Soon as X7 comes in, dumping GLS and hated the SUV to boot. Ate tires and brakes for lunch, multiple leaks and not very reliable @ 57k on the clock. Had two GLS before this, much better quality.
Ouch!

Try getting a bid from Carvana.com and see what they'd pay for it. I just sold a car through them, super easy, they pick it up from your house and bring a check.

I expect the x7 to eat brakes and and tires too.
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It looks like production is slated to start for the X7 LCI 08/2022, so as a '23 model and sticking to the usual timeline.
Read it wrong too eop refers to months and LCi years, very confusingly written.
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Ouch!

Try getting a bid from Carvana.com and see what they'd pay for it. I just sold a car through them, super easy, they pick it up from your house and bring a check.

I expect the x7 to eat brakes and and tires too.
I always found BMW's to be better road machines (you know the slogan). Therefore, I anticipate a lot less pitch and roll, etc. than the GLS, hence less wear on brakes and tires. Also this is a new gen, compared to the current antiquated GSL, so further testament to performance. Carvana wise, I don't own it, lease!
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Ouch!

Try getting a bid from Carvana.com and see what they'd pay for it. I just sold a car through them, super easy, they pick it up from your house and bring a check.

I expect the x7 to eat brakes and and tires too.
I always found BMW's to be better road machines (you know the slogan). Therefore, I anticipate a lot less pitch and roll, etc. than the GLS, hence less wear on brakes and tires. Also this is a new gen, compared to the current antiquated GSL, so further testament to performance. Carvana wise, I don't own it, lease!
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Ouch!

Try getting a bid from Carvana.com and see what they'd pay for it. I just sold a car through them, super easy, they pick it up from your house and bring a check.

I expect the x7 to eat brakes and and tires too.
I always found BMW's to be better road machines (you know the slogan). Therefore, I anticipate a lot less pitch and roll, etc. than the GLS, hence less wear on brakes and tires. Also this is a new gen, compared to the current antiquated GSL, so further testament to performance. Carvana wise, I don't own it, lease!

Carvava can still buy it. If they are willing to buy above the "buyout " price of the lease, you get the difference. If you are upside down, you need to write a check. it's worth comparing versus your other options and it literally takes 3 minutes to get an offer for your car on their website.

Regarding tires/brakes. I think it will be like the gls.

I talked to Pirelli and they said they love the premium car segment. They get homologated with the OEM, and they get the bulk of the aftermarket sales and premium cars need new tires every 18 months on average !

Brakes: Well it's about the same weight, braking energy usage should be the same to decelerate. It will come down to pad compound chosen for wear.
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Carvava can still buy it. If they are willing to buy above the "buyout " price of the lease, you get the difference. If you are upside down, you need to write a check. it's worth comparing versus your other options and it literally takes 3 minutes to get an offer for your car on their website.

Regarding tires/brakes. I think it will be like the gls.

I talked to Pirelli and they said they love the premium car segment. They get homologated with the OEM, and they get the bulk of the aftermarket sales and premium cars need new tires every 18 months on average !

Brakes: Well it's about the same weight, braking energy usage should be the same to decelerate. It will come down to pad compound chosen for wear.
I'll check it out, but it's also leaking from the transfer case, axle boots, needs new rear bumper, etc.
We shall see on brakes / tires, i'll post comparison over time
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Is the steering and handling with the EPS as bad as everyone says about the current GLS?I have the LCI MY10 GL and the steering feel and handling are very good with the hydraulic system.
I have a gls550 with active curve. I drive it HARD. It handles extraordinarily well for what it is, in my opinion.
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Carvava can still buy it. If they are willing to buy above the "buyout " price of the lease, you get the difference. If you are upside down, you need to write a check. it's worth comparing versus your other options and it literally takes 3 minutes to get an offer for your car on their website.

Regarding tires/brakes. I think it will be like the gls.

I talked to Pirelli and they said they love the premium car segment. They get homologated with the OEM, and they get the bulk of the aftermarket sales and premium cars need new tires every 18 months on average !

Brakes: Well it's about the same weight, braking energy usage should be the same to decelerate. It will come down to pad compound chosen for wear.
I'll check it out, but it's also leaking from the transfer case, axle boots, needs new rear bumper, etc.
We shall see on brakes / tires, i'll post comparison over time
Carvana sends the cars they want to retail to their reconditioning center. The ones they don't want go to a wholesale auction.

They offered me more than CarMax or my Local dealer for what I sold to them.
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Any of you long time BMW owners have any guesses what would be the approximate price increase for the 2020 X7 M50i compared to the current 2019 X7 x50i? Debating whether I should hold out for that.
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Any of you long time BMW owners have any guesses what would be the approximate price increase for the 2020 X7 M50i compared to the current 2019 X7 x50i? Debating whether I should hold out for that.
My guess is that it won’t have a huge price increase,probably a few grand more than the current 50i.Were not talking about a drastically different package from the current 50i M Sport.The only big change will be the more powerful V8?IMO the suspension options will be exactly the same as the current 50i M Sport.If you really want the increase in HP then you should wait.
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My guess is that it won’t have a huge price increase,probably a few grand more than the current 50i.Were not talking about a drastically different package from the current 50i M Sport.The only big change will be the more powerful V8?IMO the suspension options will be exactly the same as the current 50i M Sport.If you really want the increase in HP then you should wait.
That makes sense, thanks. The x50i 469hp is a lot power already but I am a bit spoiled by driving 500hp+ trucks last few years.
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I agree this is probably the best interior review yet. It was also good to see a X7 with in Mineral white with the 757 wheels in Luxry trim. I think X7 looks really nice with this build.
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Any of you long time BMW owners have any guesses what would be the approximate price increase for the 2020 X7 M50i compared to the current 2019 X7 x50i? Debating whether I should hold out for that.
That's a big and very important question. BMW is certainly going to jack up the price as much as they think the market can support. They're going to call it an "M50i", to make it a pseudo-M model, but it will NOT be an X7M. I doubt they're even going to add many more features to it, beyond what a 2nd year model would normally do. So really, the only change will be the more powerful engine, and you're pretty much going to be paying any extra money just for the extra power.

The X7 50i base model already stars almost $20,000 more than the 40i. How much more of a gap can you really create, without making the 50i model a purely boutique vehicle for the rich?

What I'm fearing is that they jack up the 50i by maybe $4,000 and then do the same to the 40i to keep the gap the same, with little to no new features. It's just too much.

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Oh, and also to point out, the new 50i engine is coming to multiple BMW models. So it will be interesting to see what price increases BMW applies to the various models and how much difference there is in the increases.
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