BMW
X7 and XM
forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos LaFerrari 9.6@157 / P1 9.8@148

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-26-2015, 10:37 PM   #1
TheKosherStogie
Lieutenant Colonel
TheKosherStogie's Avatar
United_States
338
Rep
1,805
Posts

Drives: 08 M3 DCT AW/Red
Join Date: May 2009
Location: West Hollywood

iTrader: (1)

LaFerrari 9.6@157 / P1 9.8@148

Not sure if this was ever posted, if a repost please delete. Pretty fast!


LaFerrari: 0-60 2.7
1/4 9.6 @ 157 mph

P1: 0-60 2.6
1/4 9.8 148.9 mph


http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...vs-mclaren-p1/
__________________
17' M2 DCT - KW CS - Re71r - Carbotech
BW C13 - 1:57:2
ACS - 1:49:6
WSIR - 1:30:6
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 10:48 AM   #2
WreckerX5d
Warrant Officer
WreckerX5d's Avatar
United_States
375
Rep
1,341
Posts

Drives: Deezul
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (4)

1s faster than the Veyron (10.6 @ 140mph). Pretty awesome times for a 'production' car.
__________________
Deleted, ATM I/C and tuned by B.R.R.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #3
yousefnjr
salty cowboys fan
yousefnjr's Avatar
6112
Rep
3,392
Posts

Drives: ‘06 Z4MR, ‘20 X7, ‘22 M4x
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (2)

157, holy..
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 11:46 AM   #4
Vigilante375
Major
United_States
116
Rep
1,158
Posts

Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: WA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrecker335d View Post
1s faster than the Veyron (10.6 @ 140mph). Pretty awesome times for a 'production' car.
And do you see how much they weigh compared to a Veyron?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 12:10 PM   #5
auf Deutsch
Colonel
auf Deutsch's Avatar
United_States
1913
Rep
2,210
Posts

Drives: '17 jackrabbit on crystal meth
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Philly burbs

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2017 BMW M2  [0.00]
C&D just drove the One:1 (on today's website) and estimate 9 flat in the 1/4.
__________________
2017 BSM M2|6MT|Exec|black kidneys and gills|full alcantara wheel|CF spoiler|Dinan Stage 4|Dinan COI|Dinan free flow exhaust with resonator delete|Fabspeed sport cat DP|BMS clutch stop|465 bhp|4.75/5 stars

retired: 2014 435xi|MPPK|335 bhp|3/5 stars
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 12:57 PM   #6
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10053
Rep
8,566
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrecker335d View Post
1s faster than the Veyron (10.6 @ 140mph). Pretty awesome times for a 'production' car.
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:07 PM   #7
///MCFC
Second Lieutenant
30
Rep
242
Posts

Drives: M235i
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Flyover state

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by auf Deutsche View Post
C&D just drove the One:1 (on today's website) and estimate 9 flat in the 1/4.
'kinell, hp wars gone mad. think of the children!!
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:24 PM   #8
gonzo
Lieutenant General
gonzo's Avatar
United_States
10108
Rep
14,374
Posts

Drives: as many as possible
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TeXXXas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
Small weiner and no game?
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:28 PM   #9
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10053
Rep
8,566
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
Small weiner and no game?
I would say that is an accurate customer base.
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:32 PM   #10
Red Bread
Major General
United_States
4462
Rep
9,160
Posts

Drives: Smog machines
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzo
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
Small weiner and no game?
The Veyron never did anything for me. For the money you could have bought a garage full of cooler cars.

Sort of like a Maybach, it's only cachet was that it cost so much.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:39 PM   #11
WreckerX5d
Warrant Officer
WreckerX5d's Avatar
United_States
375
Rep
1,341
Posts

Drives: Deezul
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigilante375 View Post
And do you see how much they weigh compared to a Veyron?
Yep a lot less. The Veyron weighs 4000lb's, that's a lot for a supercar, but really isn't all that bad this day in age. Considering my 335d is at 3800lb's, and the Challengers are 4200lb's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
AWD and 1200hp still counts for a bit in the 1/4mi times. I used a Veyron just as a reference to how fast 9.6s really is, coming from a RWD <1000hp car. I am no defendant of the Veyron at all.
__________________
Deleted, ATM I/C and tuned by B.R.R.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 01:54 PM   #12
Year's_End
Lieutenant General
Year's_End's Avatar
United_States
1112
Rep
12,442
Posts

Drives: 2020 Shelby GT350
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

curious to know how the Veyron is a "heap of junk" by any standard
__________________
Past: '08 E92 335i|ZPP|ZSP|6AT
Past: '15 Mustang GT|401A|PP|6MT
Current: '20 Shelby GT350|6MT
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 02:07 PM   #13
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10053
Rep
8,566
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Year's_End
curious to know how the Veyron is a "heap of junk" by any standard
1) Silly Price
2) Silly Maintanence Costs
3) Silly Extremes (top speed) that will never be used by owners
4) Silly Weight (albeit this has to do with stability but takes away from handling)
5) Subjective - super ugly


Now before anyone crucifies me as this car is not for me or not for anyone rich... well that's obvious... but... when owners no longer maintain the cars as they should and replace with different wheels and tires as has already happened and instead tow the vehicle to events rather than drive it as its cheaper... then it becomes a silly car. It's a great car from a technological perspective (or rather was in 2004-2005) but it's not a car that has any real world usage or ownership for anyone. It's a use, rinse and get rid of car... and my bet is that all of them will end up in museums in due time. These more modern cars like the P1 at least showcase future tech, can handle and look good... this one never did any of those... it was an experiment and it will end up as such. Numerous owners have sold them and replaced them instead with 3 other exotics.
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 02:08 PM   #14
NickyC
Lieutenant General
NickyC's Avatar
17346
Rep
10,597
Posts

Drives: M4 CS. Former G82, x2 F82, F80
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Jacked out of my mind

iTrader: (23)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
A Veyron is heap of junk as a whole unless you're into top speed records.
Don't be ridiculous.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 02:30 PM   #15
DocWeatherington
Brigadier General
DocWeatherington's Avatar
United_States
2894
Rep
4,072
Posts

Drives: F90 CP
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
23 Bmw M3  [0.00]
Yeah but think of it this way.. The Veyron went into production in 2005(Probably drawn up late 90s, early 2000s with the tech of the time), 10yrs ago. I think once the replacement comes out its going to kill everything for a while. It wasn't until recently you had "production hypercars" that are as fast if not faster than the Veyron.

It should be interesting once the replacement comes out. A new "King" will be crowned.
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 03:12 PM   #16
Vigilante375
Major
United_States
116
Rep
1,158
Posts

Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: WA

iTrader: (0)

The McLaren F1, to me, was the car that started this "hypercar" term. That is the car I would take over the One:1, P1, 918, Aventador, 918, LaFerrari, etc.

The Veyron continued it when it was made and went a step further by adding some luxury to it. Why does the car weigh 4k lbs? Look at the engine, all the coolers, its AWD drive train and the luxury it has. The technology that made the car was outstanding when it was first debuted to the public but now....its just another car that is being surpassed by new, lighter, faster, better cars.

No one can say the Veyron was/is garbage, if it wasn't for Bugatti MAKING this car. I assure you, the LaFerrari, P1, 918, etc would NOT be what they are today. Nor would Koenigsegg have been the company they are today.
Appreciate 1
      01-27-2015, 03:41 PM   #17
yousefnjr
salty cowboys fan
yousefnjr's Avatar
6112
Rep
3,392
Posts

Drives: ‘06 Z4MR, ‘20 X7, ‘22 M4x
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (2)

Would totally take a Veyron over anything I can afford. Wouldn't even have to think about it. Not junk
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 03:42 PM   #18
DocWeatherington
Brigadier General
DocWeatherington's Avatar
United_States
2894
Rep
4,072
Posts

Drives: F90 CP
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
23 Bmw M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigilante375 View Post
The McLaren F1, to me, was the car that started this "hypercar" term. That is the car I would take over the One:1, P1, 918, Aventador, 918, LaFerrari, etc.

The Veyron continued it when it was made and went a step further by adding some luxury to it. Why does the car weigh 4k lbs? Look at the engine, all the coolers, its AWD drive train and the luxury it has. The technology that made the car was outstanding when it was first debuted to the public but now....its just another car that is being surpassed by new, lighter, faster, better cars.

No one can say the Veyron was/is garbage, if it wasn't for Bugatti MAKING this car. I assure you, the LaFerrari, P1, 918, etc would NOT be what they are today. Nor would Koenigsegg have been the company they are today.
A Poet
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 03:47 PM   #19
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10053
Rep
8,566
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vigilante375
The McLaren F1, to me, was the car that started this "hypercar" term. That is the car I would take over the One:1, P1, 918, Aventador, 918, LaFerrari, etc.

The Veyron continued it when it was made and went a step further by adding some luxury to it. Why does the car weigh 4k lbs? Look at the engine, all the coolers, its AWD drive train and the luxury it has. The technology that made the car was outstanding when it was first debuted to the public but now....its just another car that is being surpassed by new, lighter, faster, better cars.

No one can say the Veyron was/is garbage, if it wasn't for Bugatti MAKING this car. I assure you, the LaFerrari, P1, 918, etc would NOT be what they are today. Nor would Koenigsegg have been the company they are today.
Keep in mind that none of the companies that you mentioned followed the legacy of the Veyron. Even the ones that focused on top speed elected to do so by focusing on a lighterweight, better handling chassis. None of these current cars are built remotely in the way the Veyron was... There is even nothing that luxurious about a Veyron other than high quality leather and ac... It has none of the interior toys that even an Acura Rl of the time had (exxageration but you know what I am saying). The car had a goal... and that was to be a top speed record holder... well if the Mclaren f1 built 10 years earlier wasn't slower by only 20 mph, then maybe it would be more impressive. The Laferrar, p1 and so forth followed the legacy of the f1... none followed the heavy chassis of the Veyron because I guess everyone realized that was a bad idea. It was an excercise and at that it was good.
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 05:33 PM   #20
Vigilante375
Major
United_States
116
Rep
1,158
Posts

Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: WA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
Keep in mind that none of the companies that you mentioned followed the legacy of the Veyron. Even the ones that focused on top speed elected to do so by focusing on a lighterweight, better handling chassis. None of these current cars are built remotely in the way the Veyron was... There is even nothing that luxurious about a Veyron other than high quality leather and ac... It has none of the interior toys that even an Acura Rl of the time had (exxageration but you know what I am saying). The car had a goal... and that was to be a top speed record holder... well if the Mclaren f1 built 10 years earlier wasn't slower by only 20 mph, then maybe it would be more impressive. The Laferrar, p1 and so forth followed the legacy of the f1... none followed the heavy chassis of the Veyron because I guess everyone realized that was a bad idea. It was an excercise and at that it was good.
Keep in mind that this was back in 2005 when it was started. What luxurious features were in cars those days? But what is your definition of luxury? A fully loaded 7 series? A fully loaded CLS? Or a ridiculous custom, built to order Rolls with a wine cooler in the back? I wouldn't want every single luxury item those have in a hypercar. These cars are made for the speed and raw power that people can only dream of having while it still being street legal.

The Veyron does now have bluetooth, NAV, backup camera, etc. But so does a $20k car.....there is truly nothing luxurious anymore other THAN the custom, hand made items and attention to DETAIL that comes with the Veyron or ANY other car in that ridiculous price range. That is what LUXURY truly is with THESE hypercars, not the bluetooth, heated/vented seats, blind spot this, blind spot that, active cruise, a wine cooler in the boot....none of that.

Raw power, hand built, one on one detail, hand made items and yes, the ridiculous price tag. All of these cars are awesome and the Veyron helped set a GOAL for ALL of these cars. When did the first "rival" of the Veyron show up? Think about that.

Think about this. There is always a reason these cars are being made right now. Not just because someone wants to make a statement, like the McLaren F1 (and no one came close to that car until the Veyron, well Koenigsegg did), but because they want to outclass or make something "better" than another manufacturer right now. This is a car wars and we're living in a great time now with these cars.

Last edited by Vigilante375; 01-27-2015 at 05:44 PM..
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 07:45 PM   #21
ShocknAwe
1Addict
ShocknAwe's Avatar
3200
Rep
7,860
Posts

Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston

iTrader: (22)

Rather have an F40. I don't get the hype over the new supercars.
__________________
2010 135i 6MT Jet Black
N54/3 FE82 Mutt | BUILD THREAD | GARAGE SALE
Appreciate 0
      01-27-2015, 07:57 PM   #22
flipmeraz
Lieutenant
flipmeraz's Avatar
209
Rep
535
Posts

Drives: 10 e92 m3
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Central Coast Cali

iTrader: (4)

Had a chance to ride shotgun in a LaFerrari. It's insanely fast and the sound.....
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:40 PM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST