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      10-30-2007, 04:01 PM   #1
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2008 T/C Cobalt SS faster around the Ring than BMW 335i

2008 Turbocharged Chevy Cobalt SS around the Ring

According to GM's press release.. "In fact, the Cobalt SS set a lap record for front-drive sport-compact cars at the "'Ring," posting a time of 8:22.85 minutes – besting the previous record by more than 13 seconds."
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      10-30-2007, 04:07 PM   #2
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I smell a troll.

But a BMW will always be a BMW. I doesn't matter if you make a Honda Civic faster than a 335i.

So what? Different cars for different purposes.
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2008 Turbocharged Chevy Cobalt SS around the Ring

According to GM's press release.. "In fact, the Cobalt SS set a lap record for front-drive sport-compact cars at the "'Ring," posting a time of 8:22.85 minutes – besting the previous record by more than 13 seconds."
Damn, I hope it's not too late to switch my order to a Cobalt SS. Seriously, I wouldn't care if the SS "front-drive sport-compact" had a time under 8 minutes - it's not exactly the same market (at least from my perspective).
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I went to the Chevy Driving Event, while the car was fun to push around corners it simply has the worst clutch and a truck like shifter.
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      10-30-2007, 06:52 PM   #6
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I went to the Chevy Driving Event, while the car was fun to push around corners it simply has the worst clutch and a truck like shifter.
lol, i went to the rev it up in the bay area. i agree.
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That's a pretty damn impressive time for a FWD car(a cobalt at that!) tho....props
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found this on another site:
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TURBOCHARGED CHEVROLET COBALT SS GIVES A BOOST OF FUN TO THE COMPACT SEGMENT

LAS VEGAS – Celebrating the performance community that comprises SEMA, Chevrolet used the annual convention of all things high-performance to announce the 2008 Cobalt SS coupe. True to its legendary moniker, the Cobalt SS delivers a balance of track-proven performance capability, driving refinement and premium features – along with an undeniably fun and youthful character.

Developed by GM Performance Division (GMPD) and powered by a 260-horsepower (194 kW) turbocharged and intercooled 2.0L Ecotec engine, the Cobalt SS delivers 55 horses (41 kW) more than the previous Cobalt SS Supercharged, and its driving experience was validated on racetracks throughout North America and Europe, including Germany’s legendary Nürburgring circuit.


The Cobalt SS coupe arrives in dealerships in the second quarter of 2008. A Cobalt SS sedan, with all of the same high-performance features of the coupe, follows a couple of months later.

Maximum performance – on the street or track

The Cobalt SS was developed by GM Performance Division (GMPD), with a team of engineers and designers dedicated to crafting high-performance vehicles. It features powertrain and chassis enhancements that are similar to the new HHR SS, but with larger Brembo brakes, a slightly “taller” final-drive ratio and other variances that emphasize the Cobalt SS’s pure performance ethic, as well as maximize its competitiveness on the track.

Engineered to offer more than merely a turbocharged rush of power, an all-new FE5 Sport suspension was developed and includes specific stabilizer bars, spring rates and damper tuning – all designed to complement the high-output turbocharged powertrain and mitigate afflictions such as torque steer. Driver-selectable modes help maximize performance whether on the street or track. The unique “no-lift shift” feature enables manual-transmission-equipped models to achieve the best acceleration time via an algorithm in the engine controller.

Ensuring the car stops as confidently as it accelerates and corners are four-wheel disc brakes with standard ABS. The front brakes are from Brembo and have a performance-oriented fixed-caliper design, which resist fade better than floating caliper designs; the rear discs are vented for better heat dissipation. Along with these high-performance attributes, the Cobalt SS comes standard with a host of safety features, including the StabiliTrak electronic stability control system and side-impact air bags.

With its balanced tuning, the Cobalt SS delivers a quick 0-60 time of approximately 5.7 seconds – thanks to the manual transmission’s “no-lift shift” feature – and a sports car-like maximum lateral grip of 0.9 g, TOP SPEED 160MPH. This combination enabled the Cobalt SS to set a new class record while circulating the famed Nürburgring racing circuit, posting a time of 8:22.85 minutes.
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this was also on the site:
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8:07 - BMW Z8 E52, 400 PS/1615 kg (autobild.de 06/01)
8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV [citation needed]
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena [citation needed]
8:09 - BMW M6 E63 (sport tyres) [limited to 259 km/h] (sport auto 12/05)
8:09 - Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg, sport tires, suspension modification (sport auto 08/02)
8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS (Sport Auto 10/97)
8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype, 280 PS/40.8 kgf·m/1420 kg, Takayuki Kino**bleep**a (Best Motoring International video "Carrera Invasion"
8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 hp version) [citation needed]
8:13 - BMW M5 E60, 507 PS (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 - Ferrari 355 GTB (Sport Auto 10/1994)
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2 [citation needed]

8:22 - Chevy Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo (Source GM)

8:22 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, 280 PS/36 kgf·m/1430 kg, Motoharu Kurosawa (Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series [The R32 GT-R])
8:22 - BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 - BMW M Coupe E36/7, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 - Mercedes CLK 63 AMG (fastest AMG test engineer)
8:24 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI, sport tires (Sport Auto 05/04)
8:25 - Jaguar XKR (Sport Auto)
8:25 - Porsche Cayman S (Sport Auto)
8:25 - Audi RS4 375 hp [citation needed]
8:24 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/99)
8:25 - Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII, sport tires (Sport Auto 11/02)

8:26 - BMW 335i E92 Coupe, 306 hp (Sport Auto)

8:26 - Nissan 350Z (Sport Auto 10/03)
8:28 - Porsche 911 Carrera (993) (Sport Auto 07/97)
8:28 - BMW M5 E39 (previous model), 400 hp [citation needed]
8:32 - Porsche Boxster S (Sport Auto 12/99)
8.34 - BMW Sauber F1.06 Formula One car, Nick Heidfeld, April 28 2007[1]
8:35 - BMW M3 E36 Coupe, 321 hp [citation needed]
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I highly doubt the fwd 260 cobalt can match an e46 m3's ring time.
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      10-30-2007, 09:29 PM   #11
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it was a typo they forgot the "1" in front of the 8.22
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I highly doubt the fwd 260 cobalt can match an e46 m3's ring time.
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      10-31-2007, 10:24 AM   #13
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N'ring times within 10 seconds, imho, are =.
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Who cares. In the end the SS still has as much plastic in its interior than on a SoCal girls chest.
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Bravo GM. Job well done!

I'm still not buying.
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      10-31-2007, 02:04 PM   #17
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OH NO!!!
335 got beaten by RS4, e46 M3, WRX STi...I thought that was simply impossible!!!
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Bravo GM. Job well done!

I'm still not buying.
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wow, but the cobalt still looks like a $14K car though...
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Keyword "SOURCE: GM." I believed it until I saw that.
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It was probably a tuned car or someones simply lying through their teeth. It's FWD, ever tried to throttle though a corner with FWD?
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You guys have all seen this car right?



it holds the record for the fastest car on Willow Springs (or button willow... not sure which one) that it got during a Super Street Mag Time Attack ... its FWD and fully built by GM ... so is it really that hard to accept the time? IMO its not ... Im sure what they learned with that car went in the T/C Cobalt SS.
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