Which Big brake kit?

Bee Pee · 09-20-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

The calipers are the same are they not? I think it's just the carriers and disks that are different.

Correct

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:30 AM

Are the brakes on a 435i the same as a 435d on the front?

Tengocity · 09-24-2016, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Smee

Are the brakes on a 435i the same as a 435d on the front?

I think so, though don't know for sure.

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:32 AM

Ok just found a stop tech kit for a 435i

Tengocity · 09-24-2016, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Smee

Ok just found a stop tech kit for a 435i

Where?

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:33 AM

StopTech-Big-Brake-Kit-BMW-F30-335i-CM10

http://www.**********s.com/StopTech-...i-f32-435i.htm

Now emailing uk dealer

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:39 AM

https://balancemotorsport.co.uk/fron...00-73-362.html

Tengocity · 09-24-2016, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smee

https://balancemotorsport.co.uk/fron...00-73-362.html

CA automotive will do them cheaper. I got this from them yesterday after a chat on the phone:

"Thank you for the enquiry.

Ref: BMW F31 335d Touring.

At present we have a special offer of an extra 10% discount (our prices are normally discounted by 20%) until 12.10.2016.

Therefore we can offer you the Stoptech BBK kit for the above vehicle for £2750.00 inc vat, plus delivery £30.00, Total £2780.00.

After 12.10.2016 the price will be £3056.00 inc vat, plus £30.00 delivery. Total £3086.00.

The present lead time is approx. 3 weeks from date of order."

I also spoke with Kevin at Birds about the Alcon kits. He keeps them in stock and they're cheaper, and British, so leaning towards them.

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:42 AM

How much are alcons?

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:46 AM

Woooo track brakes

https://balancemotorsport.co.uk/fron...00-r3-612.html

Smee · 09-24-2016, 05:47 AM

Still think m6 calipers will be cheaper if I can find some carriers

Tengocity · 09-25-2016, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Smee

How much are alcons?

http://www.birdsauto.com/parts/M3034925365

About £2800 inc vat

_bdiddyb_ · 09-26-2016, 05:36 PM

On Sale:

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...-st-60-380x32/

Bee Pee · 09-28-2016, 02:49 AM

Will stoptech 6 pots fit behind yr current 19" wheels ???

Tengocity · 09-28-2016, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Will stoptech 6 pots fit behind yr current 19" wheels ???

At 380mm it would be mighty close, which is why I will probs go with the Alcons

Tengocity · 09-28-2016, 04:53 AM

Have just booked the car in to Birds for next Thursday to have the Alcons fitted.

Bee Pee · 09-28-2016, 08:12 AM

Tengo

Good option. Oem wheel friendly. Look Fwd to reading your feedback.

BP

Smee · 09-29-2016, 09:38 AM

im pulling my hair out some one is trying to tell me m4 m3 calipers are 6pot brembos is this true?

Bee Pee · 09-29-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Smee

im pulling my hair out some one is trying to tell me m4 m3 calipers are 6pot brembos is this true?

Yes if m3 / m4 has oem optional CCBK

Tengocity · 10-01-2016, 12:34 PM

Would the MSport front brakes fit on the rear? Just thinking that when I get my new Alcons I could put the fronts on the rear if so!

sly1types · 10-03-2016, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've upgraded the pads (EBC yellow stuff), and the brakes lines, and the fluid, and I still think the brakes are woeful for even a few hard laps on a track evening, so contemplating a big brake kit.

Interested to hear if anyone has fitted a good set that they'd recommend?

Curious as to whether there are any issues for daily driving? Not so bothered about dust, but squealing would annoy.

They're expensive and I don't track the car regularly, so was thinking to just do the fronts.

You don't need a different BBK. You need track/race pads like the pagid RS29. They are track only pads. StopTech make a nice BBK, and thats what I have on my m3, but I still have to run track pads (pfc 08).

I have tried doing fronts only and it makes the car nervous under high speed brake zones.

Get the RS29 pads and you will be good.

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...f87-m2/?pdk=AQ

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...f87-m2/?pdk=AQ

Bee Pee · 10-04-2016, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Would the MSport front brakes fit on the rear? Just thinking that when I get my new Alcons I could put the fronts on the rear if so!

Tengo,

I think that's a tall order - you would need

- different rear discs that include handbrake drum in the centre hub [maybe F8x rear discs perhaps ??];
- to check piston area of oem fronts c/w new Alcon 6 pots to ensure stock master cylinder has sufficient volume capacity to be able to move a greater volume of fluid at all 4 corners.

Lots of experimenting - might be more cost effective to go for either M5/M6 4 pot rears with suitable disc or alcons AE at the rear.......

BP

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