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      01-04-2020, 07:19 PM   #1
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2nd & 3rd row control from driver's seat

I recently ordered a new X7 for my wife and test drove two but didn't really look into what options there are to move the rear seats (2nd or 3rd row) from the driver's seat. I looked at a bunch of video's on the forum and on you tube and wanted to confirm a few things.

It looks like the only control via button from the driver's seat is to slide the middle row forward or back about 6" via the button on the driver's door above the memory seating controls. Is this correct? I am surprised there isn't a way to raise the 3rd row from the driver's seat or start the 2nd row tilt forward for 3rd row access. Can this be done via iDrive?
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      01-05-2020, 11:54 AM   #2
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One other function you can do is Control All movement functions of front passenger seat using driver seat buttons.

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I‘m interested in this question too! My dealer told me that it is only for letting people in the 3rd row? So mine are tilting forward in the position so that you can enter the 3rd row! For me it would be much more interesting to just move the 2nd row forward and backwards! What does your „rear“ button do?
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      01-05-2020, 01:32 PM   #4
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My second row are Captains seat. I can control them individually or together, moving them forward and back. The selection is in the iDrive setup.
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      01-05-2020, 02:25 PM   #5
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But you can move them forward und backward you can not bring them in the position to let people enter the 3rd row?
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But you can move them forward und backward you can not bring them in the position to let people enter the 3rd row?
When you put them forward, all they would have to do its lull the lever to flip forward the back of the seat and get in (they wouldn't have to wait for it to move, you already did that part).
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But you can move them forward und backward you can not bring them in the position to let people enter the 3rd row?
When you put them forward, all they would have to do its lull the lever to flip forward the back of the seat and get in (they wouldn't have to wait for it to move, you already did that part).
I did play with this feature / button when we test drove but wasn't sure if you could also engage the tilt feature too. Guess not. Wonder if this is something that could be coded.
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      01-05-2020, 08:58 PM   #8
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I did play with this feature / button when we test drove but wasn't sure if you could also engage the tilt feature too. Guess not. Wonder if this is something that could be coded.
It does the upward/forward lift portion, but that's it. I dont think it would be able to tilt the back of that seat, that's a physical latch that needs to be released (for the captains chairs at least).
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      01-05-2020, 10:13 PM   #9
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I have the bench seat and those bottons only move the seats forward/back and tilt. It doesn't let passengers into third row or control the third row.
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I recently ordered a new X7 for my wife and test drove two but didn't really look into what options there are to move the rear seats (2nd or 3rd row) from the driver's seat. I looked at a bunch of video's on the forum and on you tube and wanted to confirm a few things.

It looks like the only control via button from the driver's seat is to slide the middle row forward or back about 6" via the button on the driver's door above the memory seating controls. Is this correct? I am surprised there isn't a way to raise the 3rd row from the driver's seat or start the 2nd row tilt forward for 3rd row access. Can this be done via iDrive?
While it would be cool to read the stories of the dogs suffocated by the crushing force of the accidental trigger of the 3rd row by an unsuspecting driver, methinks its best if someone needs to be outside the car with the side doors or rear hatch open before making that decision.

Also, what you probably don't know is that raising or lowering the 3rd row not only moves the 2nd row seats but also the 1st row seats as well.
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While it would be cool to read the stories of the dogs suffocated by the crushing force of the accidental trigger of the 3rd row by an unsuspecting driver
I'm actually surprised this hasn't been mentioned so far with the ways that are already there to put down the 3rd row from the second row. It has already gone down accidentally twice in my car so far, luckily our 12 y/o was the one in the back so she was able to act quickly enough, but I was surprised it didn't seem to stop on it's own with a 100+lb person in the seat. I suppose I should actual check/test on my own to see how much of a danger this really is. I suspect both times to be related to the 2nd or 3rd row touching the buttons in the second row.

The first time was day one for the car, I think she was pressing the buttons on the side of the second row from the third row, thinking she could make the second row move.

The second time was when a friend came along for a ride that was never in the car before. This happened shortly after she got in, so she likely pressed one while climbing into the back.
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The day will come when someone activates one of those rear seats and crushes a baby. Class action law suit and safety recall... Here it comes...

Has anyone tried raising the 3rd row seats with the cargo cover in place that goes behind the second row seats? Since there is no safety on the seat actions I would assume that it would just break that cargo cover in two or fry the seat motor trying to overcome the obstruction of the cargo cover.
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Yes, one of my chief X7 complaints/critiques is seating movement, including that it's not intuitive, which buttons do what, and how they work.
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I'm actually surprised this hasn't been mentioned so far with the ways that are already there to put down the 3rd row from the second row. It has already gone down accidentally twice in my car so far, luckily our 12 y/o was the one in the back so she was able to act quickly enough, but I was surprised it didn't seem to stop on it's own with a 100+lb person in the seat.
I just checked the owners manual and I don't see anything written about a seat sensor to prevent the 3rd Row (or 2nd Row for that matter) from folding while a person or pet is in there. Are there protections for that scenario I wonder?

So sorry about your 12 year old.....did she jump out as soon as the seat motors started making sound? Was she pinched and narrowly escaped?
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My wife and I were exploring features when we got it home the first night and discovered the button on the drivers door. When we pushed it we were shocked by the way it pushed our grand daughters car seat into the back of the front passenger seat. I went into the idrive and disabled the function. It would definitely have hurt her if she had been in the car seat. We both made a mental note to avoid that button.
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I just checked the owners manual and I don't see anything written about a seat sensor to prevent the 3rd Row (or 2nd Row for that matter) from folding while a person or pet is in there. Are there protections for that scenario I wonder?

So sorry about your 12 year old.....did she jump out as soon as the seat motors started making sound? Was she pinched and narrowly escaped?
Short of something being stuck to limit the movement, the only sensor I am aware of would prevent the second row from going back too far and pushing on someone's knees in the third row.

She was fine, the headrests go down first and then it takes a second to start the motion, so it basically slaps you in the head to let you know you better move. We have captains chairs so when she realized it was doing more, she was able to unbuckle and squeeze between them a bit. She then reached over to try to fix it and ended up putting the other seat down in that process. The placement of those buttons is kind of odd... extremely odd that they function while the car is moving.
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Short of something being stuck to limit the movement, the only sensor I am aware of would prevent the second row from going back too far and pushing on someone's knees in the third row.

She was fine, the headrests go down first and then it takes a second to start the motion, so it basically slaps you in the head to let you know you better move. We have captains chairs so when she realized it was doing more, she was able to unbuckle and squeeze between them a bit. She then reached over to try to fix it and ended up putting the other seat down in that process. The placement of those buttons is kind of odd... extremely odd that they function while the car is moving.
I’m going to play with these tomorrow and see if pulling/pushing the button in the opposite direction reverses the fold. I’d like to know what to do in an emergency.
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I’m going to play with these tomorrow and see if pulling/pushing the button in the opposite direction reverses the fold. I’d like to know what to do in an emergency.
I just played around with mine. It did not care that I was sitting in the seat nor whether I had a seatbelt on (front operation of the second row seems to care about the latter) to begin the operation.

I was surprised to find that the second row reclines the seat back to the last position before sliding the seat back to that position. This is fine, but the recline did not care that my knees were in the way at all, it put quite a bit of pressure on them (I even pushed on it with my hands), it then only stopped after it started to slide the seat back into my kneees and decided to sense resistance.

As for the 3rd row operation from the second row buttons, putting the headrest back stops it, putting a decent amount of backward pressure on the seat stops it, reversing using the buttons stops it. So overall, it seems pretty safe, it might take a while before a smaller child in the way would cause enough pressure to stop the seat, but I dont think it would result in any major injury. I think the issue my 12 y/o daughter had was that the headrest went down and she started to sit up, so she never put any real backward pressure on the seat and it continued on it's way.
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