Mods for f86 x6m

6lacksheep · 04-10-2016, 11:17 PM

Hey members, recently sold my 2012 black sapphire x6 35i (full bolt on) for a 2016 carbon black x6m. Already know i will be doing all the bolt ons available for the truck, so i ask, which companies make downpipes for us and you are running? Which tunes are out there and you are running? Intake (short ram or drop in filter)? And as for trunk lips and front lips, which ones to go for?

Thanks in advance

r33_RGSport · 04-10-2016, 11:34 PM

@askylitdrive , congrats on the upgrade.
I can get you these for the bolt-on.

Downpipe - Evolution Racewerks
Tune - RaceChip Ultimate, Dinan
Exhaust - Dinan
Aesthetics - OEM M Performance or aftermarket Kidney Grill, Fender trim, CF center console, and painted reflector

If there is anything else that I don't have it listed, just PM me and I can find out.

raym3cs · 04-12-2016, 11:41 PM

yup ... i've got dinan tune and Eisenmann race exhaust
i was thinking about downpipes but it might upset the neighbors
h&r spacers from @rgsport

JL724 · 04-13-2016, 01:06 PM

Does anyone have a list of all of the ECU options? I have seen:

RaceChip
Active Autowerke
Velos
Dinan
ESS

Am I missing any? Are there any significant differences between the brands? I saw the installation instructions for the RaceChip, is it the same for all of these units?

onfireX5 · 04-13-2016, 03:25 PM

RaceChip and Velos would be similar. Velos has one more connection. BMS same also. Dinan requires access to intercept the DME harness. Go to their site for pics. Not sure on the others.

onfireX5 · 04-13-2016, 03:28 PM

http://files.dinancars.com/webresour...45f7e94a87.pdf

R0ut3r · 06-24-2016, 03:15 PM

Hi,

I am seriously considering the RaceChip product but was wondering if it is able to auto-clear tuner codes and O2 sensor codes if down pipes are present? I had JB4s for many 335 N54 and N55 engines that did this... but I really don't want to drive around with CELs all the time and have to worry about clearing these.

onfireX5 · 06-24-2016, 03:45 PM

No on cel delete. Very smooth power adder.

m5james · 06-24-2016, 08:28 PM

Being an F** series vehicle, I'd go straight to BMS JB4 and BCM just like the F10 M5 guys...something I wish I could do in my E70.

R0ut3r · 06-25-2016, 09:15 PM

Uh oh!

I guess I need to cancel my racechip order!

So what are the recommended catted down pipes ?

You think Terry will say it's ok to get M5 JB4 and ont have to worry ?

r33_RGSport · 06-25-2016, 10:52 PM

FYI for BMS, the CEL delete method is an ECU reset script that automatically done on every engine start or certain number of driven miles, not an O2 sensor simulator.
There are a lot of bad things about that method.
1. Your car will never run fully optimized since the DME is on learning mode all the time.
2. Your car will run rich in result of not fully optimized.
3. You will not know any small engine malfunction error that is happening to your car since it is always resetted. Only the hard CEL will stays.

Not bashing on them, but I got a few of customers they learned that in a hard way. And I notice that my car exhaust fumes smells rich all the time.

I am going to test some brand of O2 sensor simulator soon.

R0ut3r · 06-26-2016, 12:59 PM

Ok, but will the RaceChip allow me to clear those code manually? Or do I need to buy a Bavarian tech cable and obtain appropriate diagnostic software ?

onfireX5 · 06-26-2016, 01:34 PM

RaceChip is just a very smooth, very sophisticated power adder. If you want to clear cat less cels buy a GoPoint and use a cell phone. Very easy. With the high flow oem BMW cats I really don't understand why you would. You will pick up sound, but power will be minimal. 10-20rwhp isn't worth the hassle. Just add another psi of boost and use 93+ octane. Good luck !

R0ut3r · 06-26-2016, 09:57 PM

Interesting, so would the general consensus be that exhaust /cat modification is not worthwhile?

I do want more sound but if it's just for sound perhaps cat back is what I should focus on.

Coming from modding n54 and n55 engines, I just assumed the down pipes was a very important mod.

I only use 94 octane (Canada) so will probably be able to get the most out of the RaceChip.

r33_RGSport · 06-26-2016, 10:30 PM

@R0ut3r , hassle is the main issue here as onfireX5 mentioned.
The downpipe installation on the BMW V8TT is very involving.
But the gain, it is pretty rewarding IMO.

AutoTalent · 06-27-2016, 04:05 PM

You should look into FI downpipes as well.

sos_73 · 06-28-2016, 10:38 AM

G-Power has also released their downpipes (catted or not)
Have a look here:
https://www.g-power.com/leistungsste...anlage_533.php

onfireX5 · 06-28-2016, 11:11 AM

Until an independent before and after dyno is posted, I am skeptical of big hp gains with just cat delete at the current M power levels. On other platforms that I have tested , there are gains but not huge. 20rwhp is my bet. Not worth it unless you are after the sound improvement.

jlawphoto · 07-05-2016, 01:51 PM

Im debating between RC and the Velos tune

onfireX5 · 07-05-2016, 06:13 PM

I tried to compare both of them before I bought the RaceChip. Could not find anyone on the forum that is using Velos for info.

atxgt3 · 07-05-2016, 08:48 PM

Anyone have any experience with the Eurocharged tune? They seem to be getting nice gains and have a 2 year/20k mile warranty in case the engine blows up. I'm considering it over a Dinan tune.

scotty91ss · 07-05-2016, 09:41 PM

I had my FI Catless downpipe installed late last week. Noticeable difference. That plus a ECU tuning group tune. I know there are others out there but the installer liked this one, so I can always take it out for a Dinan.

FI Catless downpipe. fun. Good sound under light acceleration. Great sound under wot. Moderate acceleration gets a wrap/cackle that I don't necessarily care for.
Trying for the track this Friday.
Stock was 12.42 quarter
Tune only was 12.13 quarter

04-10-2016, 11:17 PM	#1
6lacksheep First Lieutenant 91 Rep 326 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW X6M Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Mods for f86 x6m Hey members, recently sold my 2012 black sapphire x6 35i (full bolt on) for a 2016 carbon black x6m. Already know i will be doing all the bolt ons available for the truck, so i ask, which companies make downpipes for us and you are running? Which tunes are out there and you are running? Intake (short ram or drop in filter)? And as for trunk lips and front lips, which ones to go for? Thanks in advance
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04-10-2016, 11:34 PM	#2
r33_RGSport General 13046 Rep 18,751 Posts Drives: G09 XM, G05 X5 40, 991.2 T Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	@askylitdrive , congrats on the upgrade. I can get you these for the bolt-on. Downpipe - Evolution Racewerks Tune - RaceChip Ultimate, Dinan Exhaust - Dinan Aesthetics - OEM M Performance or aftermarket Kidney Grill, Fender trim, CF center console, and painted reflector If there is anything else that I don't have it listed, just PM me and I can find out. __________________ Email:sales@rgsport.com \| IG:RGSport_USA \| Web:RGSportShop.com PM for Everyday DEALS!! MSS • iSweep • RaceChip • Sterckenn • AutoTecknic • Akrapovic • Vossen Wheels • Eventuri Active Autowerke • KW • H&R • Ohlins • Remus • and more...
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04-12-2016, 11:41 PM	#3
raym3cs First Lieutenant 153 Rep 388 Posts Drives: San Marino M3CS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: N-NJ iTrader: (0)	yup ... i've got dinan tune and Eisenmann race exhaust i was thinking about downpipes but it might upset the neighbors h&r spacers from @rgsport
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04-13-2016, 01:06 PM	#4
JL724 New Member 11 Rep 26 Posts Drives: F-Type R Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Does anyone have a list of all of the ECU options? I have seen: RaceChip Active Autowerke Velos Dinan ESS Am I missing any? Are there any significant differences between the brands? I saw the installation instructions for the RaceChip, is it the same for all of these units?
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04-13-2016, 03:25 PM	#5
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	RaceChip and Velos would be similar. Velos has one more connection. BMS same also. Dinan requires access to intercept the DME harness. Go to their site for pics. Not sure on the others.
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Mods for f86 x6m

04-13-2016, 03:28 PM	#6
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	http://files.dinancars.com/webresour...45f7e94a87.pdf
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06-24-2016, 03:15 PM	#7
R0ut3r Private First Class 125 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2020 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Fe Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	Hi, I am seriously considering the RaceChip product but was wondering if it is able to auto-clear tuner codes and O2 sensor codes if down pipes are present? I had JB4s for many 335 N54 and N55 engines that did this... but I really don't want to drive around with CELs all the time and have to worry about clearing these.
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06-24-2016, 03:45 PM	#8
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	No on cel delete. Very smooth power adder.
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06-24-2016, 08:28 PM	#9
m5james Colonel 431 Rep 2,062 Posts Drives: '10 X5M Alpine White on Sakhir Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Marysville, WA iTrader: (0)	Being an F series vehicle, I'd go straight to BMS JB4 and BCM just like the F10 M5 guys...something I wish I could do in my E70. __________________ '10 BMW X5///M - Alpine White on Sakhir Orange - JB4 w/ HCP Stage 2 BEF, NGK 97506 @ .20, SS tubing & BMC filters, gutted cats, AC Forged 312 22's, H&R 2" '98 BMW 740iL - ///E39 M5 6spd swap, fully built engine (sleeved, P&P, cams), 3.46 LSD, H&R Stage 2/Bilstein HD, Magnaflow 14816's '97 BMW 328ci - ///E36 M3 clutch & L/W flywheel, Z4///M** 18's Last edited by m5james; 06-28-2016 at 11:18 AM..
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06-25-2016, 09:15 PM	#10
R0ut3r Private First Class 125 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2020 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Fe Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	Uh oh! I guess I need to cancel my racechip order! So what are the recommended catted down pipes ? You think Terry will say it's ok to get M5 JB4 and ont have to worry ? __________________ ___________________________________________ Current: 2021 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Ferrari F8 Tributo Spider, 2019 X3, 2022 M4C Cab Past: 2009 e92 335XI, 2012 e92 M3, 2014 335XI, 2016 X6M, 2019 M5, 2013 Ferrari California, 2017 Ferrari California T, 2020 X4MC, 2020 Porsche C4S Cab (992) Montreal, Canada
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06-25-2016, 10:52 PM	#11
r33_RGSport General 13046 Rep 18,751 Posts Drives: G09 XM, G05 X5 40, 991.2 T Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	FYI for BMS, the CEL delete method is an ECU reset script that automatically done on every engine start or certain number of driven miles, not an O2 sensor simulator. There are a lot of bad things about that method. 1. Your car will never run fully optimized since the DME is on learning mode all the time. 2. Your car will run rich in result of not fully optimized. 3. You will not know any small engine malfunction error that is happening to your car since it is always resetted. Only the hard CEL will stays. Not bashing on them, but I got a few of customers they learned that in a hard way. And I notice that my car exhaust fumes smells rich all the time. I am going to test some brand of O2 sensor simulator soon. __________________ Email:sales@rgsport.com \| IG:RGSport_USA \| Web:RGSportShop.com PM for Everyday DEALS!! MSS • iSweep • RaceChip • Sterckenn • AutoTecknic • Akrapovic • Vossen Wheels • Eventuri Active Autowerke • KW • H&R • Ohlins • Remus • and more...
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06-26-2016, 12:59 PM	#12
R0ut3r Private First Class 125 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2020 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Fe Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	Ok, but will the RaceChip allow me to clear those code manually? Or do I need to buy a Bavarian tech cable and obtain appropriate diagnostic software ? __________________ ___________________________________________ Current: 2021 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Ferrari F8 Tributo Spider, 2019 X3, 2022 M4C Cab Past: 2009 e92 335XI, 2012 e92 M3, 2014 335XI, 2016 X6M, 2019 M5, 2013 Ferrari California, 2017 Ferrari California T, 2020 X4MC, 2020 Porsche C4S Cab (992) Montreal, Canada
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06-26-2016, 01:34 PM	#13
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	RaceChip is just a very smooth, very sophisticated power adder. If you want to clear cat less cels buy a GoPoint and use a cell phone. Very easy. With the high flow oem BMW cats I really don't understand why you would. You will pick up sound, but power will be minimal. 10-20rwhp isn't worth the hassle. Just add another psi of boost and use 93+ octane. Good luck !
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06-26-2016, 09:57 PM	#14
R0ut3r Private First Class 125 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2020 Lamborghini Urus, 2021 Fe Join Date: May 2011 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0)	Interesting, so would the general consensus be that exhaust /cat modification is not worthwhile? I do want more sound but if it's just for sound perhaps cat back is what I should focus on. Coming from modding n54 and n55 engines, I just assumed the down pipes was a very important mod. I only use 94 octane (Canada) so will probably be able to get the most out of the RaceChip.
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06-26-2016, 10:30 PM	#15
r33_RGSport General 13046 Rep 18,751 Posts Drives: G09 XM, G05 X5 40, 991.2 T Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	@R0ut3r , hassle is the main issue here as onfireX5 mentioned. The downpipe installation on the BMW V8TT is very involving. But the gain, it is pretty rewarding IMO. __________________ Email:sales@rgsport.com \| IG:RGSport_USA \| Web:RGSportShop.com PM for Everyday DEALS!! MSS • iSweep • RaceChip • Sterckenn • AutoTecknic • Akrapovic • Vossen Wheels • Eventuri Active Autowerke • KW • H&R • Ohlins • Remus • and more...
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06-27-2016, 04:05 PM	#16
AutoTalent Lieutenant General 2324 Rep 12,654 Posts Drives: e92 M3 6mt \| e60 M5 6mt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (11)	You should look into FI downpipes as well.
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06-28-2016, 10:38 AM	#17
sos_73 Private 18 Rep 84 Posts Drives: BMW X5M F85 (2015) Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Switzerland iTrader: (0)	G-Power has also released their downpipes (catted or not) Have a look here: https://www.g-power.com/leistungsste...anlage_533.php
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06-28-2016, 11:11 AM	#18
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	Until an independent before and after dyno is posted, I am skeptical of big hp gains with just cat delete at the current M power levels. On other platforms that I have tested , there are gains but not huge. 20rwhp is my bet. Not worth it unless you are after the sound improvement.
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07-05-2016, 01:51 PM	#19
jlawphoto New Member 15 Rep 28 Posts Drives: X6M Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: L.A iTrader: (1)	Im debating between RC and the Velos tune
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07-05-2016, 06:13 PM	#20
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3619 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	I tried to compare both of them before I bought the RaceChip. Could not find anyone on the forum that is using Velos for info.
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07-05-2016, 08:48 PM	#21
atxgt3 First Lieutenant 156 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 11 E92, 17 X5M, 15 Huracan Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: TX iTrader: (1)	Anyone have any experience with the Eurocharged tune? They seem to be getting nice gains and have a 2 year/20k mile warranty in case the engine blows up. I'm considering it over a Dinan tune.
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07-05-2016, 09:41 PM	#22
scotty91ss First Lieutenant 182 Rep 321 Posts Drives: 19 M5, '15 X5M,'91Chev454ss Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Edmonton iTrader: (0)	I had my FI Catless downpipe installed late last week. Noticeable difference. That plus a ECU tuning group tune. I know there are others out there but the installer liked this one, so I can always take it out for a Dinan. FI Catless downpipe. fun. Good sound under light acceleration. Great sound under wot. Moderate acceleration gets a wrap/cackle that I don't necessarily care for. Trying for the track this Friday. Stock was 12.42 quarter Tune only was 12.13 quarter
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