[ddno1]

Its a beautiful day out here and I started my x7, after driving for a minute or so, the drivetrain error popped up and the car started to wobble (like high vibration) and drive like I was driving on the lowest gear and at the same time accelerating it. The drive was somewhat rough and I was really worried the vehicle may stop at an intersection or somewhere in the middle of the road.
I returned back home as it was already past 6:00PM and nearest BMW dealer service center was closed.

Anyone experienced the same ? What is the outcome ?

I am really frustrated with all of this. In the one 1.5 months we had this vehicle , numerous error codes, liftgate issues and now this.

On top of it, I had spent closer to 6k on PPF, ceramic coating and other stuff. Making me highly frustrated!!!

[Saejin]

40i or M60i?

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by Saejin

40i or M60i?

40i

[Ace6180G07]

From your description it sounds like it dropped a cylinder. You may have a bad coil pack. Please let us know what the dealer says.

There was a thread with an owner that was waiting weeks for a couple of coil packs to come in. Not sure how they made out as they did not update the post.

That was a 2023 40i also

On the new B58 engine it received new coil packs. I wonder if they are going to start having issues with those now…

Let us know.

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by Ace6180G07

From your description it sounds like it dropped a cylinder. You may have a bad coil pack. Please let us know what the dealer says.

There was a thread with an owner that was waiting weeks for a couple of coil packs to come in. Not sure how they made out as they did not update the post.

That was a 2023 40i also

On the new B58 engine it received new coil packs. I wonder if they are going to start having issues with those now…

Let us know.

The entire vehicle is vibrating and the gear is not changing …. Engine RPM goes to 3500-4000 just at 15-20 mph speeds

Sigh!!

[Ace6180G07]

Originally Posted by ddno1

The entire vehicle is vibrating and the gear is not changing …. Engine RPM goes to 3500-4000 just at 15-20 mph speeds

Sigh!!

it could be the tranny with the new information/symptoms you have provided above. Or this is their limp mode not sure the theory that BMW uses for logic. hard to tell. What did the dealer say? Or is it not there yet?

Does it idle rough? Or if you rev it in park or hold the pedal at about 2000 rpm. Is it smooth? Could rule out the engine if there is no vibration in park.

Either way…This sucks. For sure.

[mieh100]

Mine had almost the same issues just got mine tonight after a week at the dealership it ended up being the fuel pump relay . Mine is a 2023 x7 40i with 1000 miles on it. To give more info mine stopped after vibrating it would just turn off.

[midfield]

My 2020 M50 got the same error message and finally broken down. It was fuel pump failure.

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by midfield

My 2020 M50 got the same error message and finally broken down. It was fuel pump failure.

Originally Posted by mieh100

Mine had almost the same issues just got mine tonight after a week at the dealership it ended up being the fuel pump relay . Mine is a 2023 x7 40i with 1000 miles on it. To give more info mine stopped after vibrating it would just turn off.

Originally Posted by Ace6180G07

it could be the tranny with the new information/symptoms you have provided above. Or this is their limp mode not sure the theory that BMW uses for logic. hard to tell. What did the dealer say? Or is it not there yet?

Does it idle rough? Or if you rev it in park or hold the pedal at about 2000 rpm. Is it smooth? Could rule out the engine if there is no vibration in park.

Either way…This sucks. For sure.

Message from BMW Dealer….
[COLOR="Blue"]Good morning, we found faults for the IVM and ignition coils. We ordered parts, but they are coming from Germany and could take two weeks to arrive. [/COLOR]

[Setllarboss]

I got the same message today. i have made the appointment for Monday.

[Ace6180G07]

Originally Posted by ddno1

Message from BMW Dealer….
Good morning, we found faults for the IVM and ignition coils. We ordered parts, but they are coming from Germany and could take two weeks to arrive.

Damn… Second one on this forum with a bad ignition coil (or multiple) on the new B58.

From the small percentage of 2023 X7’s out there and an even a smaller precent are of those owners on this forming this news is not great…

Setllarboss let us know how you make out. I assume it was just an error and no drivability issues? Or did it have issues? I think your first error made the car useless correct? But then it restarted and error was gone?

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by Ace6180G07

Damn… Second one on this forum with a bad ignition coil (or multiple) on the new B58.

From the small percentage of 2023 X7's out there and an even a smaller precent are of those owners on this forming this news is not great…

Setllarboss let us know how you make out. I assume it was just an error and no drivability issues? Or did it have issues? I think your first error made the car useless correct? But then it restarted and error was gone?

Mind you, my original issues are still not resolved. We had a service appt for this Monday to get the steering wheel pulling issue and error codes that have returned on adaptive cruise control and forward collision warnings.
They could not replicate the lift gate error (lift gate wouldn't open on some random occasions). So, thats there still and maybe for some other day!!

Sigh!!

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by Setllarboss

I got the same message today. i have made the appointment for Monday.

Setllarboss did you get a chance to take your vehicle to BMW dealer? What did they say?

[Setllarboss]

I am going this coming Monday. Last week the dealership had 40 minutes wait to check-in.

Yes, the first time i got the error my car went to limp mode. The lat two times its didn't go to limp mode. I will update on Monday.

[Setllarboss]

Dropped off the car today. BMW said they will first do a drivetrain software update. They hope it will address the issue. They have kept the car so will update more once I pickup.

[ddno1]

Vehicle still with dealer. They donot have an update on the parts situations. At what point should I be looking at Lemon Laws. I am in AZ btw.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by ddno1

Vehicle still with dealer. They donot have an update on the parts situations. At what point should I be looking at Lemon Laws. I am in AZ btw.

AZ lemon law:
There is a limit on the number of times a consumer must allow the manufacturer to repair the car and the amount of time the car can be out of service. If during the covered period, the manufacturer fails to successfully repair the defect after four attempts, or the car is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days, the manufacturer must accept return of the car or replace the car with a new car.

i would avoid mentioning lemon law. i would bring up trade assist if you start getting close to the lemon law threshold.

do note that some options are not available now-- if you have dhp or IAS, thats no longer avail on the 40i

[ddno1]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

AZ lemon law:
There is a limit on the number of times a consumer must allow the manufacturer to repair the car and the amount of time the car can be out of service. If during the covered period, the manufacturer fails to successfully repair the defect after four attempts, or the car is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of 30 or more calendar days, the manufacturer must accept return of the car or replace the car with a new car.

i would avoid mentioning lemon law. i would bring up trade assist if you start getting close to the lemon law threshold.

do note that some options are not available now— if you have dhp or IAS, thats no longer avail on the 40i

I know. Its very frustrating to know there are some options that are no longer available in 40i. Also, I had car for less than 2 months - and I spent ~6000 for ppf ceramic coating etc. I would loose out money on that front as well.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by ddno1

I know. Its very frustrating to know there are some options that are no longer available in 40i. Also, I had car for less than 2 months - and I spent ~6000 for ppf ceramic coating etc. I would loose out money on that front as well.

its frustrating but document and wait and see. bmw is aware that you are reaching buyback territory-- time out of service is roughly tracked by the DAVIS number.
the last thing they want is for the car to be lemoned.
if it goes to the trade assist route, you can see if they will negotiate for things like ppf and such.

[Ace6180G07]

Originally Posted by ddno1

I know. Its very frustrating to know there are some options that are no longer available in 40i. Also, I had car for less than 2 months - and I spent ~6000 for ppf ceramic coating etc. I would loose out money on that front as well.

Holy crap I had no idea PPF was that expensive. Never looked into it as I only keep cars for 2 years. Wow mind blown 6k…

[Brigitte]

WOW...lots of problems with a brand new X7! This is unacceptable...this shouldn't be the case with such an expensive SUV!

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by Brigitte

WOW...lots of problems with a brand new X7! This is unacceptable...this shouldn't be the case with such an expensive SUV!

Unfortunately, BMW isn't the only one that has issues. ALL of them do. I would be willing to bet that you will see similar complaints from all of the expensive manufactures. I'm guessing if you go on any other comparably expensive SUV forum for any expensive vehicle you will see similar, if not more, complaints about that manufactures woes.