Would you buy a car from Amazon?

Car-Addicted · 11-19-2023, 11:36 AM

Hyundai Will Sell Cars on Amazon: What You Need to Know
On November 16th, Amazon and Hyundai announced the details of a wide-ranging partnership. One big component of this tie-up: Hyundai will be the first automotive brand to sell vehicles on Amazon starting in 2024.
Hyundai is the first brand to sign up for this with Amazon. But we expect more will sign up. And it could end up being quite popular.
We've seen an explosion in popularity of buying used cars sight unseen with websites like Bring a Trailer. Buyers should theoretically feel more at ease buying a new car online than a used car. Some buyers will still want to see/test drive a new vehicle in person. But others should enjoy the reprieve from dealing with pushy sales associates.
https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a458...i-amazon-2024/

chassis · 11-19-2023, 11:38 AM

If it is a truly manufacturer-to-AMZN relationship, yes.

If a traditional scum car dealer is in the transaction because of state dealer laws, no.

Car-Addicted · 11-19-2023, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chassis

If a traditional scum car dealer is in the transaction because of state dealer laws, no.

Will Amazon send a drone out to fix your car?

Kingschiff · 11-19-2023, 11:41 AM

this is wild, they are taking over. I personally probably would not. I guess its one of those things though you could go drive some locally. Figure out what you want and order through Amazon if there's perks or benefits.

DanG · 11-19-2023, 11:57 AM

I bet the local Hyundia dealers are not very happy about Amazon pouching sales from them.

gblansten · 11-19-2023, 01:24 PM

I would. But I’d be pissed if they left it on my porch.

Jbrown7403 · 11-19-2023, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

I would. But I’d be pissed if they left it on my porch.

And at 2am 😔

tturedraider · 11-19-2023, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chassis

If it is a truly manufacturer-to-AMZN relationship, yes.

If a traditional scum car dealer is in the transaction because of state dealer laws, no.

This was my very first thought. This may be an “announcement”, but I predict implementation will not be smooth, because the dealers will pitch a huge fit and dealership sales laws are strong and pervasive. One thing that comes to my mind right off the top of my head is if I were a dealer I would immediately say I will not provide any services at all to cars sold this way.

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Will Amazon send a drone out to fix your car?

Bingo!!

jkoral · 11-19-2023, 02:17 PM

From the article linked in OP:

Does that mean you won't have to deal with a Hyundai dealer?
No. Direct car sales remain illegal in several states. Hyundai is selling this as "another way for dealers to build awareness of their selection and offer convenience to their customers." And you will still need to arrange vehicle pickup or delivery with the local dealer.

Car-Addicted · 11-19-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

I would. But I’d be pissed if they left it on my porch.

Bet you would be even more pissed if the Amazon Drone dropped it on your roof.

dreamingat30fps · 11-19-2023, 03:01 PM

In theory yes. But that assumes I've driven the car and that no dealer is involved at all. I bought my Model 3 online, but I had already owned one previously and knew exactly what I wanted. Then just showed up at Tesla service center to pick it up. Best buying experience ever.

I doubt that's what this Amazon thing will be tough. Sounds like just some marketing bs for dealers.

chassis · 11-19-2023, 03:25 PM

Seems too good to be true. Scum (dealers) are still involved. As long as dealer laws are on the books, scum will survive. Sadly for all.

dgoldenz · 11-19-2023, 03:26 PM

“Here, buy this Hyundai at MSRP that you can get for $6k off at the dealer”

Car-Addicted · 11-19-2023, 03:37 PM

So is the driving motivation to accept this more about not wanting dealers to make money? Is amazon profiting more desirable that a Dealership profit?

Car-Addicted · 11-19-2023, 03:46 PM

Just stirring the pot

Buying from Amazon Doesn't Support Small Business
1) At the height of the pandemic—most of 2020—Amazon thrived.
Our point is quite simple: when you buy from Amazon, you are not supporting small business which is key to a green economy.
2) “We have heard so many heartbreaking stories of small businesses who sunk significant time and resources into building a business and selling on Amazon, only to have Amazon poach their best-selling items and drive them out of business," subcommittee chairman David Cicilline said.
3) If small businesses want this potential growth, however, they are forced to rely on Amazon, undermining their agency as an independent business. Last year, Amazon kicked a small business off its site and seized the inventory, but in November, the merchant won its legal battle, earning one of the biggest acknowledgements of Amazon’s mistreatment of small businesses.
4) Earlier this year, the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law found Amazon “has monopoly power over many small- and medium-sized businesses.”
5) Amazon can use its monopolistic power and influence in numerous ways, from the aforementioned copycatting to fixing prices.
In May 2021, attorney general of Washington, D.C., Karl Racine, filed a lawsuit against Amazon for this exact practice.

https://www.greenamerica.org/blog/5-...all-businesses

dreamingat30fps · 11-19-2023, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

So is the driving motivation to accept this more about not wanting dealers to make money? Is amazon profiting more desirable that a Dealership profit?

Maybe it's neither?

For me 90% of dealer buying experiences are shit. I would rather not go through that. Pretty simple. I don't give a shit who profits. I don't even like Amazon on a personal level.

chassis · 11-19-2023, 06:47 PM

100% of consumer surveys on the subject report that consumers despise the car buying process. Despise might not be a strong enough word.

The world, outside of dealers, know this. The business world, outside of dealers and including Amazon, want to improve the car buying process. In so doing they will earn profits by attracting customers away from creepy, unethical clowns (dealers).

We can only hope that dealer laws are vacated through a process similar to the recent court decision related to another unethical crew in the economic world - real estate agents.

Davil · 11-19-2023, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

I would. But I’d be pissed if they left it on my porch.

Like this?

Efthreeoh · 11-20-2023, 03:07 AM

Maybe AMZN should invent a car vending machine...

Car-Addicted · 11-20-2023, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chassis

100% of consumer surveys on the subject report that consumers despise the car buying process. Despise might not be a strong enough word. .

So that would imply that Saturn Corporation would be a success?
No haggle car pricing maybe not so popular.

Car-Addicted · 11-20-2023, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Maybe AMZN should invent a car vending machine...

I suspect they can buy a used one soon.

ZL9M2 · 11-20-2023, 08:17 AM

This is just dealers selling cars via a different channel. It's not a purchase direct from the manufacturer. I don't believe dealer laws have changed. Doesn't solve anything.

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Car-Addicted Lieutenant Colonel 7049 Rep 1,910 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Central PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M4 CS [9.87]	Would you buy a car from Amazon? Hyundai Will Sell Cars on Amazon: What You Need to Know On November 16th, Amazon and Hyundai announced the details of a wide-ranging partnership. One big component of this tie-up: Hyundai will be the first automotive brand to sell vehicles on Amazon starting in 2024. Hyundai is the first brand to sign up for this with Amazon. But we expect more will sign up. And it could end up being quite popular. We've seen an explosion in popularity of buying used cars sight unseen with websites like Bring a Trailer. Buyers should theoretically feel more at ease buying a new car online than a used car. Some buyers will still want to see/test drive a new vehicle in person. But others should enjoy the reprieve from dealing with pushy sales associates. https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a458...i-amazon-2024/
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chassis Colonel 6553 Rep 2,310 Posts Drives: 9Y0 Cayenne S Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Einbahnstraße iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 Porsche Cayenne S [7.69]	If it is a truly manufacturer-to-AMZN relationship, yes. If a traditional scum car dealer is in the transaction because of state dealer laws, no.
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Kingschiff Private 113 Rep 59 Posts Drives: 24' M340i X Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Rochester NY iTrader: (1)	this is wild, they are taking over. I personally probably would not. I guess its one of those things though you could go drive some locally. Figure out what you want and order through Amazon if there's perks or benefits.
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DanG Major General 10661 Rep 6,937 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 AW DCT Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 BMW M2 [7.68]	I bet the local Hyundia dealers are not very happy about Amazon pouching sales from them. __________________ BMWCCA member Puget Sound Chapter
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gblansten Brigadier General 1977 Rep 4,225 Posts Drives: 23 Tesla S Plaid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thick ascending limb iTrader: (0)	I would. But I’d be pissed if they left it on my porch.
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jkoral Lieutenant Colonel 1023 Rep 1,968 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 LBB 6MT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MA iTrader: (7)	From the article linked in OP: Does that mean you won't have to deal with a Hyundai dealer? No. Direct car sales remain illegal in several states. Hyundai is selling this as "another way for dealers to build awareness of their selection and offer convenience to their customers." And you will still need to arrange vehicle pickup or delivery with the local dealer.
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dreamingat30fps Lieutenant Colonel 5330 Rep 1,910 Posts Drives: Miata, Cayenne, Model 3, F350 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida & NC iTrader: (1)	In theory yes. But that assumes I've driven the car and that no dealer is involved at all. I bought my Model 3 online, but I had already owned one previously and knew exactly what I wanted. Then just showed up at Tesla service center to pick it up. Best buying experience ever. I doubt that's what this Amazon thing will be tough. Sounds like just some marketing bs for dealers.
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chassis Colonel 6553 Rep 2,310 Posts Drives: 9Y0 Cayenne S Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Einbahnstraße iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 Porsche Cayenne S [7.69]	Seems too good to be true. Scum (dealers) are still involved. As long as dealer laws are on the books, scum will survive. Sadly for all.
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Car-Addicted Lieutenant Colonel 7049 Rep 1,910 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Central PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M4 CS [9.87]	So is the driving motivation to accept this more about not wanting dealers to make money? Is amazon profiting more desirable that a Dealership profit?
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Car-Addicted Lieutenant Colonel 7049 Rep 1,910 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M4 CS Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: Central PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M4 CS [9.87]	Just stirring the pot Buying from Amazon Doesn't Support Small Business 1) At the height of the pandemic—most of 2020—Amazon thrived. Our point is quite simple: when you buy from Amazon, you are not supporting small business which is key to a green economy. 2) “We have heard so many heartbreaking stories of small businesses who sunk significant time and resources into building a business and selling on Amazon, only to have Amazon poach their best-selling items and drive them out of business," subcommittee chairman David Cicilline said. 3) If small businesses want this potential growth, however, they are forced to rely on Amazon, undermining their agency as an independent business. Last year, Amazon kicked a small business off its site and seized the inventory, but in November, the merchant won its legal battle, earning one of the biggest acknowledgements of Amazon’s mistreatment of small businesses. 4) Earlier this year, the House Subcommittee on Antitrust, Commercial and Administrative Law found Amazon “has monopoly power over many small- and medium-sized businesses.” 5) Amazon can use its monopolistic power and influence in numerous ways, from the aforementioned copycatting to fixing prices. In May 2021, attorney general of Washington, D.C., Karl Racine, filed a lawsuit against Amazon for this exact practice. https://www.greenamerica.org/blog/5-...all-businesses
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chassis Colonel 6553 Rep 2,310 Posts Drives: 9Y0 Cayenne S Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Einbahnstraße iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 Porsche Cayenne S [7.69]	100% of consumer surveys on the subject report that consumers despise the car buying process. Despise might not be a strong enough word. The world, outside of dealers, know this. The business world, outside of dealers and including Amazon, want to improve the car buying process. In so doing they will earn profits by attracting customers away from creepy, unethical clowns (dealers). We can only hope that dealer laws are vacated through a process similar to the recent court decision related to another unethical crew in the economic world - real estate agents.
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ZL9M2 Second Lieutenant 361 Rep 296 Posts Drives: '17 M2 ZL9-'20 M2CS-'68 1600 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (1)	This is just dealers selling cars via a different channel. It's not a purchase direct from the manufacturer. I don't believe dealer laws have changed. Doesn't solve anything.
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