[Auricom]

Originally Posted by BIGV84

Thanks, any idea if the Money Factor changed?

MF increased to 0.00136

[farmerfloyd]

Originally Posted by XSnake

If I want to pick up an X7 in stock, what kind of premium do I expect to pay?

I just purchased an X7 that was on the lot at our local dealer for $2750 under MSRP (including the $750 financing rebate). I was surprised that they were dealing - we were going to do a build, but the one on the lot was acceptable. Otherwise, the other best offer I got was 1k below MSRP (in SoCal). Most were firm on their "market adjustments".

[Mikes12985]

Originally Posted by farmerfloyd

I just purchased an X7 that was on the lot at our local dealer for $2750 under MSRP (including the $750 financing rebate). I was surprised that they were dealing - we were going to do a build, but the one on the lot was acceptable. Otherwise, the other best offer I got was 1k below MSRP (in SoCal). Most were firm on their "market adjustments".

You definitely did well. Most dealers are firm at 1% off, MSRP, even over sticker. Brokers are at about 2% off at the moment. I was also able to get 4% off or a little over $3k off on a build through an old relationship

[farmerfloyd]

I wish I could say I was the negotiator, but it's really my wife that does the talking. . . she's a monster in there. Going by percentage of MSRP it was 3.5% below MSRP. And then there's the CCA rebate on top of that...

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by farmerfloyd

I wish I could say I was the negotiator, but it's really my wife that does the talking. . . she's a monster in there. Going by percentage of MSRP it was 3.5% below MSRP. And then there's the CCA rebate on top of that...

nice job

[classj]

About 3% under on my ordered M50. Plus rebates and CCA rebate.

All said and done will be about $6k under.

Considering that most dealers wanted MSRP plus “mandatory” vin etching, coatings, and other bs I am happy.

If this was 2019 this would be a horrible deal but for 2022 I will take it

[dmanb2b]

Originally Posted by classj

About 3% under on my ordered M50. Plus rebates and CCA rebate.

All said and done will be about $6k under.

Considering that most dealers wanted MSRP plus “mandatory” vin etching, coatings, and other bs I am happy.

If this was 2019 this would be a horrible deal but for 2022 I will take it

Very nice!

[aas5]

Originally Posted by F82Tazmanian

Wow. Randomly came across this thread (do not have an x7). I placed an order with him for an X4 m last year. Great experience until the order was placed. Disappeared and kept trying to raise the original lease amount and not releasing the paperwork to me. Sketchy ass dude. Called my cc company and got my deposit back. Such a waste of 2 months.

Hey guys, sorry to see that you had a bad experience with David. FWIW, I've ordered three BMWs from him since 2014 and had a great experience. First two were picked up at the plant and the last one at the dealership in D.C. David is well known among BMW M enthusiasts for many years as a great guy to deal with. I can't explain your experience and don't doubt it but thought it may be worth giving him a chance to explain as he's been a great asset to me in the past and I recommended him to many other folks.

[Davidli1986]

Just wondering when do you guys normally negotiate the price with the dealership? before you place the order or 2 weeks before the delivery day?

I am trying to get the new x7, but the dealership that I have been talking to, the best offer I could get is =MSRP. If I order the car now, do you guys think I can still negotiate the price before the delivery day?

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by Davidli1986

Just wondering when do you guys normally negotiate the price with the dealership? before you place the order or 2 weeks before the delivery day?

I am trying to get the new x7, but the dealership that I have been talking to, the best offer I could get is =MSRP. If I order the car now, do you guys think I can still negotiate the price before the delivery day?

You're stuck around sticker.

[Mikes12985]

Originally Posted by Davidli1986

Just wondering when do you guys normally negotiate the price with the dealership? before you place the order or 2 weeks before the delivery day?

I am trying to get the new x7, but the dealership that I have been talking to, the best offer I could get is =MSRP. If I order the car now, do you guys think I can still negotiate the price before the delivery day?

You're much better off trying to secure your deal up front before ordering as it guarantee's the dealer a future sale. There's no point in waiting especially in this current market. There's plenty of buyers willing to pay around MSRP so dealers have no problem with customers backing out of their production orders.

[evanaswan]

Douche bag dealer. Stay away. Charged a higher money factor on Tier 1 credit. Should be .00136 they were at .002 and lied saying .00178.

[Mobydic]

Originally Posted by r20

0. its MSRP.

but long gone are the days of -10%

last year i got a quote for a X7 and X5. I passed because I was like this can't stay up here much longer...
now the x5 quote (which is $350+ more per month than my prior quote) is more expensive than the x7 quote i got last year.

i should have just pulled the trigger.

I'm in the same boat as you... Price can't be like this for ever thinking and then there was 2 price increases and now a third is coming in march for the Australian market anyway.

So decided to pull the trigger on one that is coming in April 22

[AdmirG07]

If you are in NY or around NY, looking to order a new BMW reach out, my sales man has been amazing with making things right and getting a good deal. Just ordered a G20 with him as well.

[Manny01]

Originally Posted by Manny01

Past few weeks I've been looking for an X7 M50i for my wife. Kilter is showing nearly 250 M50i's available around the country (and 1100 total X7's). Some have been sitting on lots for a while, yet the few feelers I've put out are coming back MSRP or more. Pretty interesting how dealers aren't budging even though they have in stock inventory.

And spare me the supply chain crisis. I was looking at the historical sales of the X7, dealers are moving just as many cars today as they did in 2019. When you have 1100 sitting on lots around the entire country there's no supply chain issue. LOL.

Guess I'll be waiting cause no way I'm paying MSRP for this car, when two years ago you could get 10 to 15% off.

https://kilter.com/search?brand=BMW&...&model=X7+M50i

Still in the market.

A dealer in Atlanta reached out today (same one I purchased my M2C). Let's see if he's willing to play. Trying not to rejoice in gas prices, but there’s some upside for those harping back to the days you could get the X7 for 10 to 15% off MSRP. Particularly positive news for a nearly 3 ton luxury SUVs that gets 15 miles per gallon and costs $100 to fill up on 91.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by Manny01

Still in the market.

A dealer in Atlanta reached out today (same one I purchased my M2C). Let's see if he's willing to play. Trying not to rejoice in gas prices, but there's some upside for those harping back to the days you could get the X7 for 10 to 15% off MSRP. Particularly positive news for a nearly 3 ton luxury SUVs that gets 15 miles per gallon and costs $100 to fill up on 91.

Wouldn't count on it. I don't think the extra $40 gas costs per week now matters to people buying $120k vehicles.

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Originally Posted by mjr24

Wouldn't count on it. I don't think the extra $40 gas costs per week now matters to people buying $120k vehicles.

Yep. Hasn't mattered. And won't. Seriously - that's the absolute least one can accept to do to support the right global values agenda. Dish out 40$ extra a week. Pain threshold is high. Very high. Hell, I'll drive a Prius before giving in to this a**wipe in Russia.

[gsanto]

Tried the F12 hack and although my garage says that my X7 has entered production and a VIN has been assigned, I get the following in the Response tab. Anybody seen this? I am doing something wrong?

{responseContent: {responseCode: "216", responseMessage: "No matching record found."}, dataContent: {},…}
dataContent: {}
errorContent: {anyErrors: true, errors: ["No matching record found."]}
anyErrors: true
errors: ["No matching record found."]
responseContent: {responseCode: "216", responseMessage: "No matching record found."}
responseCode: "216"
responseMessage: "No matching record found."

[sandwi54]

Originally Posted by gsanto

Tried the F12 hack and although my garage says that my X7 has entered production and a VIN has been assigned, I get the following in the Response tab. Anybody seen this? I am doing something wrong?

{responseContent: {responseCode: "216", responseMessage: "No matching record found."}, dataContent: {},…}
dataContent: {}
errorContent: {anyErrors: true, errors: ["No matching record found."]}
anyErrors: true
errors: ["No matching record found."]
responseContent: {responseCode: "216", responseMessage: "No matching record found."}
responseCode: "216"
responseMessage: "No matching record found."

You need to keep clicking down the list until the one that says "in production"

[gsanto]

Thanks. I just realized I was on the wrong screen...I had clicked on 'Track Status' and THEN drilled into Network, Response, etc and that is why I think I kept getting the 'No matching record'.
This time I stayed on the overview screen and then hit F12 and was able to search for the proper Forward element and found the production date - says 3/23 - Yea!.
I am praying that I get the car in time for my wife's birthday.

Now I need to sort through all these codes to make sure nothing is missing.

dataContent: {earliestRetailDateSRO: "2004-08-02", ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}],…}
ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}]
0: {overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}
agModelCode: "CW23"
bodyType: "G07"
bodyTypeDesc: "SAV"
carImageURL: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?brand=WBBM&client=byo&vehicle=22SA&paint =P0A96&fabric=FMCHF&sa=S0ZAX,US_S0ZAX,S0ZDY,US_S0Z DY,S0ZLS,US_S0ZLS,S0ZN1,US_S0ZN1,S0ZN3,US_S0ZN3,S0 ZN4,US_S0ZN4,S0ZPK,US_S0ZPK,S0ZTM,US_S0ZTM,S0ZX2,U S_S0ZX2,S0ZX3,US_S0ZX3,S01CB,US_S01CB,S01CE,US_S01 CE,S01CR,US_S01CR,S01XK,US_S01XK,S02TB,US_S02TB,S0 2VB,US_S02VB,S0212,US_S0212,S0255,US_S0255,S0258,U S_S0258,S03AC,US_S03AC,S03AT,US_S03AT,S03MB,US_S03 MB,S0302,US_S0302,S0319,US_S0319,S0322,US_S0322,S0 4FL,US_S04FL,S04HB,US_S04HB,S04KU,US_S04KU,S04NE,U S_S04NE,S04T7,US_S04T7,S04UR,US_S04UR,S0418,US_S04 18,S0420,US_S0420,S0423,US_S0423,S0453,US_S0453,S0 456,US_S0456,S05AC,US_S05AC,S05AL,US_S05AL,S05AP,U S_S05AP,S05AR,US_S05AR,S05AU,US_S05AU,S05AV,US_S05 AV,S05A1,US_S05A1,S05DN,US_S05DN,S06AC,US_S06AC,S0 6AE,US_S06AE,S06AK,US_S06AK,S06C4,US_S06C4,S06DR,U S_S06DR,S06NW,US_S06NW,S06UX,US_S06UX,S06U3,US_S06 U3,S06WD,US_S06WD,S0645,US_S0645,S0655,US_S0655,S0 676,US_S0676,S07LY,US_S07LY,S08KL,US_S08KL,S08R9,U S_S08R9,S08SM,US_S08SM,S08TN,US_S08TN,S0823,US_S08 23,S0842,US_S0842,S0845,US_S0845,S0853,US_S0853,S0 9AA,US_S09AA,S0992,US_S0992,&pov=walkaround&angle= 270&bkgnd=transparent&resp=png&height=300"
colorCode: "0A96"
exteriorColor: "Mineral White Metallic"
exteriorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=paint_200x75& paint=P0A96"
has7ME: false
interiorColor: "Coffee Vernasca Leather"
interiorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=fabric_200x75 &fabric=FMCHF"
lineMakeId: "2"
longDesc: "X7 xDrive40i"
makeDesc: "BMW"
modelYear: "2022"
naModelCode: "22SA"
options: "0ZAX 0ZDY 0ZLS 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZTM 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01XK 02TB 02VB 0212 0255 0258 03AC 03AT 03MB 0302 0319 0322 04FL 04HB 04KU 04NE 04T7 04UR 0418 0420 0423 0453 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AR 05AU 05AV 05A1 05DN 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NW 06UX 06U3 06WD 0645 0655 0676 07LY 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992"
orderStatusCode: "150"
overHeadLongMessage: "Today's the day: your BMW has entered the production queue."
overHeadMessage: "Production begins"
overHeadMessageSequence: "2"
prodDate: "2022-03-23"
prodNum: "6866578"
retlDate: ""
seriesCode: "P"
upholsteryCode: "MCHF"
vehicleInd: "PROD"

[sandwi54]

Originally Posted by gsanto

Thanks. I just realized I was on the wrong screen...I had clicked on 'Track Status' and THEN drilled into Network, Response, etc and that is why I think I kept getting the 'No matching record'.
This time I stayed on the overview screen and then hit F12 and was able to search for the proper Forward element and found the production date - says 3/23 - Yea!.
I am praying that I get the car in time for my wife's birthday.

Now I need to sort through all these codes to make sure nothing is missing.

dataContent: {earliestRetailDateSRO: "2004-08-02", ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}],…}
ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}]
0: {overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}
agModelCode: "CW23"
bodyType: "G07"
bodyTypeDesc: "SAV"
carImageURL: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?brand=WBBM&client=byo&vehicle=22SA&paint =P0A96&fabric=FMCHF&sa=S0ZAX,US_S0ZAX,S0ZDY,US_S0Z DY,S0ZLS,US_S0ZLS,S0ZN1,US_S0ZN1,S0ZN3,US_S0ZN3,S0 ZN4,US_S0ZN4,S0ZPK,US_S0ZPK,S0ZTM,US_S0ZTM,S0ZX2,U S_S0ZX2,S0ZX3,US_S0ZX3,S01CB,US_S01CB,S01CE,US_S01 CE,S01CR,US_S01CR,S01XK,US_S01XK,S02TB,US_S02TB,S0 2VB,US_S02VB,S0212,US_S0212,S0255,US_S0255,S0258,U S_S0258,S03AC,US_S03AC,S03AT,US_S03AT,S03MB,US_S03 MB,S0302,US_S0302,S0319,US_S0319,S0322,US_S0322,S0 4FL,US_S04FL,S04HB,US_S04HB,S04KU,US_S04KU,S04NE,U S_S04NE,S04T7,US_S04T7,S04UR,US_S04UR,S0418,US_S04 18,S0420,US_S0420,S0423,US_S0423,S0453,US_S0453,S0 456,US_S0456,S05AC,US_S05AC,S05AL,US_S05AL,S05AP,U S_S05AP,S05AR,US_S05AR,S05AU,US_S05AU,S05AV,US_S05 AV,S05A1,US_S05A1,S05DN,US_S05DN,S06AC,US_S06AC,S0 6AE,US_S06AE,S06AK,US_S06AK,S06C4,US_S06C4,S06DR,U S_S06DR,S06NW,US_S06NW,S06UX,US_S06UX,S06U3,US_S06 U3,S06WD,US_S06WD,S0645,US_S0645,S0655,US_S0655,S0 676,US_S0676,S07LY,US_S07LY,S08KL,US_S08KL,S08R9,U S_S08R9,S08SM,US_S08SM,S08TN,US_S08TN,S0823,US_S08 23,S0842,US_S0842,S0845,US_S0845,S0853,US_S0853,S0 9AA,US_S09AA,S0992,US_S0992,&pov=walkaround&angle= 270&bkgnd=transparent&resp=png&height=300"
colorCode: "0A96"
exteriorColor: "Mineral White Metallic"
exteriorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=paint_200x75& paint=P0A96"
has7ME: false
interiorColor: "Coffee Vernasca Leather"
interiorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=fabric_200x75 &fabric=FMCHF"
lineMakeId: "2"
longDesc: "X7 xDrive40i"
makeDesc: "BMW"
modelYear: "2022"
naModelCode: "22SA"
options: "0ZAX 0ZDY 0ZLS 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZTM 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01XK 02TB 02VB 0212 0255 0258 03AC 03AT 03MB 0302 0319 0322 04FL 04HB 04KU 04NE 04T7 04UR 0418 0420 0423 0453 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AR 05AU 05AV 05A1 05DN 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NW 06UX 06U3 06WD 0645 0655 0676 07LY 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992"
orderStatusCode: "150"
overHeadLongMessage: "Today's the day: your BMW has entered the production queue."
overHeadMessage: "Production begins"
overHeadMessageSequence: "2"
prodDate: "2022-03-23"
prodNum: "6866578"
retlDate: ""
seriesCode: "P"
upholsteryCode: "MCHF"
vehicleInd: "PROD"

Congratulations! You just have non-touchpad controller so you should be fine.

[JoeyDDD0919]

Originally Posted by gsanto

Thanks. I just realized I was on the wrong screen...I had clicked on 'Track Status' and THEN drilled into Network, Response, etc and that is why I think I kept getting the 'No matching record'.
This time I stayed on the overview screen and then hit F12 and was able to search for the proper Forward element and found the production date - says 3/23 - Yea!.
I am praying that I get the car in time for my wife's birthday.

Now I need to sort through all these codes to make sure nothing is missing.

dataContent: {earliestRetailDateSRO: "2004-08-02", ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}],…}
ProdVehicleDetails: [{overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}]
0: {overHeadMessage: "Production begins",…}
agModelCode: "CW23"
bodyType: "G07"
bodyTypeDesc: "SAV"
carImageURL: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?brand=WBBM&client=byo&vehicle=22SA&paint =P0A96&fabric=FMCHF&sa=S0ZAX,US_S0ZAX,S0ZDY,US_S0Z DY,S0ZLS,US_S0ZLS,S0ZN1,US_S0ZN1,S0ZN3,US_S0ZN3,S0 ZN4,US_S0ZN4,S0ZPK,US_S0ZPK,S0ZTM,US_S0ZTM,S0ZX2,U S_S0ZX2,S0ZX3,US_S0ZX3,S01CB,US_S01CB,S01CE,US_S01 CE,S01CR,US_S01CR,S01XK,US_S01XK,S02TB,US_S02TB,S0 2VB,US_S02VB,S0212,US_S0212,S0255,US_S0255,S0258,U S_S0258,S03AC,US_S03AC,S03AT,US_S03AT,S03MB,US_S03 MB,S0302,US_S0302,S0319,US_S0319,S0322,US_S0322,S0 4FL,US_S04FL,S04HB,US_S04HB,S04KU,US_S04KU,S04NE,U S_S04NE,S04T7,US_S04T7,S04UR,US_S04UR,S0418,US_S04 18,S0420,US_S0420,S0423,US_S0423,S0453,US_S0453,S0 456,US_S0456,S05AC,US_S05AC,S05AL,US_S05AL,S05AP,U S_S05AP,S05AR,US_S05AR,S05AU,US_S05AU,S05AV,US_S05 AV,S05A1,US_S05A1,S05DN,US_S05DN,S06AC,US_S06AC,S0 6AE,US_S06AE,S06AK,US_S06AK,S06C4,US_S06C4,S06DR,U S_S06DR,S06NW,US_S06NW,S06UX,US_S06UX,S06U3,US_S06 U3,S06WD,US_S06WD,S0645,US_S0645,S0655,US_S0655,S0 676,US_S0676,S07LY,US_S07LY,S08KL,US_S08KL,S08R9,U S_S08R9,S08SM,US_S08SM,S08TN,US_S08TN,S0823,US_S08 23,S0842,US_S0842,S0845,US_S0845,S0853,US_S0853,S0 9AA,US_S09AA,S0992,US_S0992,&pov=walkaround&angle= 270&bkgnd=transparent&resp=png&height=300"
colorCode: "0A96"
exteriorColor: "Mineral White Metallic"
exteriorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=paint_200x75& paint=P0A96"
has7ME: false
interiorColor: "Coffee Vernasca Leather"
interiorColorImageUrl: "https://cache.bmwusa.com/cosy.arox?client=byo&brand=wbbm&view=fabric_200x75 &fabric=FMCHF"
lineMakeId: "2"
longDesc: "X7 xDrive40i"
makeDesc: "BMW"
modelYear: "2022"
naModelCode: "22SA"
options: "0ZAX 0ZDY 0ZLS 0ZN1 0ZN3 0ZN4 0ZPK 0ZTM 0ZX2 0ZX3 01CB 01CE 01CR 01XK 02TB 02VB 0212 0255 0258 03AC 03AT 03MB 0302 0319 0322 04FL 04HB 04KU 04NE 04T7 04UR 0418 0420 0423 0453 0456 05AC 05AL 05AP 05AR 05AU 05AV 05A1 05DN 06AC 06AE 06AK 06C4 06DR 06NW 06UX 06U3 06WD 0645 0655 0676 07LY 08KL 08R9 08SM 08TN 0823 0842 0845 0853 09AA 0992"
orderStatusCode: "150"
overHeadLongMessage: "Today's the day: your BMW has entered the production queue."
overHeadMessage: "Production begins"
overHeadMessageSequence: "2"
prodDate: "2022-03-23"
prodNum: "6866578"
retlDate: ""
seriesCode: "P"
upholsteryCode: "MCHF"
vehicleInd: "PROD"

I see the 6UX. Lol. Same thing here.

However, congratulations on the purchase!