[TightLines]

Have a build about to lock for my wife's X7. It will play kid hauler and family highway vehicle.

We've had a '15 X5 for about 8 years that came specced with runflats. The factory tires were loud, harsh, and worst of all could never be patched. We had 3 slow leaking flats that were continually causing tire replacements.

Finally became fedup and changed all tires to non-runflats without incident. Swore we'd never buy a car with them again.

Now it's time to buy her a car again and while the car can thankfully be ordered without them there is but 1 wheel option. Would prefer to order the multi-spoke '22s but they're only available with runflats. I could of course order the car with the preferred wheels and spare tire then change the tires BUT I thought I'd check-in to see if the overall ride quality, road noise and repairability has changed since '15.

Also wondering if there's any value, IE, being able to sell, the brand new run-flats that come with the vehicle. Just can't bring myself to throw away a fresh set of tires...

Any insight is appreciated.

[XB7]

List them on Facebook marketplace for a quick easy sale.
Search to see what others are going for and cash only sale.

Ideally meet them someplace other than your house if you can.

[thenew3]

You can patch run flat tires depending on where the leak is. Dealer won't do it but many independent tire shops will. I've had the run flats on my wife's X3 patched multiple times.

The factory 22" tire size only has 1 non run flat option Pirelli PZ4 and the rear 315 size is some what hard to come by.

As far as ride, the air suspension on the X7 makes the ride difference between run flat and non run flat not too noticeable.

I don't know about your wife, but mine doesn't know anything about cars other than driving it. (She can't even pump her own gas) So I wouldn't want her to be stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire (She wouldn't even know she had a flat tire, she apparently ignores all dash warning lights). So for my wife, I would always get her run flat tires. (even with a spare).

[blutob2]

Originally Posted by TightLines

Have a build about to lock for my wife's X7. It will play kid hauler and family highway vehicle.

We've had a '15 X5 for about 8 years that came specced with runflats. The factory tires were loud, harsh, and worst of all could never be patched. We had 3 slow leaking flats that were continually causing tire replacements.

Finally became fedup and changed all tires to non-runflats without incident. Swore we'd never buy a car with them again.

Now it's time to buy her a car again and while the car can thankfully be ordered without them there is but 1 wheel option. Would prefer to order the multi-spoke '22s but they're only available with runflats. I could of course order the car with the preferred wheels and spare tire then change the tires BUT I thought I'd check-in to see if the overall ride quality, road noise and repairability has changed since '15.

Also wondering if there's any value, IE, being able to sell, the brand new run-flats that come with the vehicle. Just can't bring myself to throw away a fresh set of tires...

Any insight is appreciated.

Heck I would just keep them until they're worn out and then replace with what you want. I'm not a fan of run-flats either but mine have lasted almost 19K miles and still has some life left. They are the 21s though and I did plug one.

[nkole]

My 23 w/runflats doesn't give a harsh or loud ride. I've gotten three nails in six months and have plugged them every-time. I don't think this is an issue.

[bagekko]

If you are leasing, not sure when it ends if they will hassle you if it has non-RF when your car came with RF, even if the non tires are still OEM.

[M4CompConv/X7]

Speaking of RFT, I just bought my X7 off the lot, so I did not get a chance to spec it out. Can anyone comment why my car was spec'd with the Continental RFTs, but yet it also came with a space-saver spare ($150 option)?

[JJacksonIII]

Originally Posted by M4CompConv/X7

Speaking of RFT, I just bought my X7 off the lot, so I did not get a chance to spec it out. Can anyone comment why my car was spec'd with the Continental RFTs, but yet it also came with a space-saver spare ($150 option)?

I actually speced mine with the spare. Thinking was that if there was a bad enough blowout or a rupture in the sidewall I'd be able to throw the spare on. I would have liked having the extra storage, but am a little risk-averse.

[PinkNinja400Guy]

The Continental 22" runflats are pretty good. They're not loud and the ride quality is good. That's been my personal experience going from those to 19" non-RFT - minimal difference in noise & ride quality (which is not what I was expecting). On Tire Rack they're also well reviewed for being quiet.

But I don't think it's guaranteed that you'll get the Contis with the multi-spoke wheels. 2023 MY owners should have more up to date details on which tires BMW is currently using.

[PinkNinja400Guy]

Originally Posted by M4CompConv/X7

Speaking of RFT, I just bought my X7 off the lot, so I did not get a chance to spec it out. Can anyone comment why my car was spec'd with the Continental RFTs, but yet it also came with a space-saver spare ($150 option)?

You can get the spare tire option regardless of what wheels/tires your car is built with. Your dealer decided to add that option for some reason. The nice thing is that now you can safely switch to non-RFT in the future, which will expand your tire options and also reduce tire costs.

[K75_UDM]

Originally Posted by PinkNinja400Guy

You can get the spare tire option regardless of what wheels/tires your car is built with. Your dealer decided to add that option for some reason. The nice thing is that now you can safely switch to non-RFT in the future, which will expand your tire options and also reduce tire costs.

Can you elaborate on that? If you get a 22" mixed RFT factory built how would that work? Curious how that works..

TIA

[chicagox7]

Originally Posted by K75_UDM

Can you elaborate on that? If you get a 22" mixed RFT factory built how would that work? Curious how that works..

TIA

When you get new tires, you can get tires the same size as what you have, just get non-run flat tires. That opens up a much wider array of options when changing tires. You probably wouldn’t want to have non-run flats if you didn’t have a spare. The price of the spare is much cheaper as an option than it is trying to build it after the fact (I’ve not tried, though others here have posted its cost them somewhere between 500-600 for the wheel and the tire). Therefore, optioning the spare allows you to save move should you opt to put non-run flat tires on your vehicle in the future. The ‘mixed’ tires simply means you have 2 performance tires and 2 all season tires- though all 4 are run flat.

I optioned for the spare to be included. The thought process was 2 fold. 1) I saved money on a spare should we ever put non-run flats on the car and 2) we go on long road trips with the family and I would hate for something to happen more than 50 miles from a shop/exit or have a blow out that destroys the whole tire leaving us stranded.

[K75_UDM]

Originally Posted by chicagox7

When you get new tires, you can get tires the same size as what you have, just get non-run flat tires. That opens up a much wider array of options when changing tires. You probably wouldn’t want to have non-run flats if you didn’t have a spare. The price of the spare is much cheaper as an option than it is trying to build it after the fact (I’ve not tried, though others here have posted its cost them somewhere between 500-600 for the wheel and the tire). Therefore, optioning the spare allows you to save move should you opt to put non-run flat tires on your vehicle in the future. The ‘mixed’ tires simply means you have 2 performance tires and 2 all season tires- though all 4 are run flat.

I optioned for the spare to be included. The thought process was 2 fold. 1) I saved money on a spare should we ever put non-run flats on the car and 2) we go on long road trips with the family and I would hate for something to happen more than 50 miles from a shop/exit or have a blow out that destroys the whole tire leaving us stranded.

Thanks. I didn't realize you have an option to get non runflat tires, i plan to add the space saver, i really need all season tires since it will be DD and gets cold in winter and don't want to deal with changing tires for season, thinking of going with 21" "square" setup but didnot know how one can order non RFT..

[chicagox7]

Originally Posted by K75_UDM

Thanks. I didn't realize you have an option to get non runflat tires, i plan to add the space saver, i really need all season tires since it will be DD and gets cold in winter and don't want to deal with changing tires for season, thinking of going with 21" "square" setup but didnot know how one can order non RFT..

Not sure you can get non run flat from the factory. See a few classifieds of folks selling tires with minimal miles as they’ve changed them after getting the car home.

We went with 21s as we are in cold weather and it’s a DD as well- coupled with the additional cost and complexity that the staggered 22s seem to add with possibly needing winter tires and then replacing the various sizes (and availability of replacements at those sizes). I’m sure it’s not a big deal to some, though it felt like extra work to me.

[TightLines]

Is anyone able to share the tire dimensions of the 21 vs 22s? First I've heard of the staggered setup on the '22s.

I'm generally a fan of more tire on the ground for better safety

[K75_UDM]

Originally Posted by chicagox7

Not sure you can get non run flat from the factory. See a few classifieds of folks selling tires with minimal miles as they’ve changed them after getting the car home.

We went with 21s as we are in cold weather and it’s a DD as well- coupled with the additional cost and complexity that the staggered 22s seem to add with possibly needing winter tires and then replacing the various sizes (and availability of replacements at those sizes). I’m sure it’s not a big deal to some, though it felt like extra work to me.

agreed..yup which is why leaning towards 21

[PinkNinja400Guy]

Originally Posted by TightLines

Is anyone able to share the tire dimensions of the 21 vs 22s? First I've heard of the staggered setup on the '22s.

I'm generally a fan of more tire on the ground for better safety

Look at the last two pages of the ordering or pricing guides. It lists the tire type and sizes for each wheel option. 22" staggered has wider rear tires than front tires.

https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1926780

[jdloyd01]

I sold my run flats through my dealer. They hooked me up with someone that was looking to replace the factory tires on there car. You might ask your SA if they would be willing to do the same.

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by TightLines

Is anyone able to share the tire dimensions of the 21 vs 22s? First I've heard of the staggered setup on the '22s.

I'm generally a fan of more tire on the ground for better safety

Factory size is 285/45-21 Front and Rear, or 275/40-22 Front, 315/35-22 Rear.

[TightLines]

Many thanks and some good advice.

Seeing only Pirelli P Zeros as non-RFT option on tirerack. Any recommendations on alternate tires?

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by TightLines

Many thanks and some good advice.

Seeing only Pirelli P Zeros as non-RFT option on tirerack. Any recommendations on alternate tires?

There are many more options for the 21 inch tires. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...erformance=ALL

[bavarian1]

I don’t see any all season tire option for 22 inch. Has anyone tired 305/40 22 on rear instead of 315/35? Would that be safe and not give any trouble with original warranty? Seems like I might need them replaced as I’m down to 3/32 at the 10k miles.