[Savoy2001]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

I have owned more than my fair share of cars and suv and from various Marques. I am quite familiar with troublesome models or teething problems on new production. I do not judge a brand by one instance alone but as a whole. Sales, service, corporate and the dealer network in general. Tesla on the flips is pure rubbish from any and every angle. Hyped up beyond belief. That is one product that attracts many "nose in the air types" simply because of the way the vehicle was marketed and inserted in the media.

I agree with this 100 percent. Tesla is the most over hyped over priced product on the market. Their product is hardly what I would call world class in terms of build quality for sure. Their stock price is ridiculous and there is no justification for it quite honestly.

[jsmonet]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Tesla on the flips is pure rubbish from any and every angle.

per a friend who was a mechanic for Tesla (pre-prod testers and higher end work):

"The amount of dual lock in production models is terrifying. I'd never buy one of these even with my discount"

You really need to catch a lucky build to have one put together rectilinearly and reliably. The self-driving stuff, though, is tight. My coworkers are generally in the west LA/noho/south part of the valley, so their drives aren't terribly distant. That's likely why they don't tend to uncover too many gremlins right away.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by jsmonet

per a friend who was a mechanic for Tesla (pre-prod testers and higher end work):

"The amount of dual lock in production models is terrifying. I'd never buy one of these even with my discount"

You really need to catch a lucky build to have one put together rectilinearly and reliably. The self-driving stuff, though, is tight. My coworkers are generally in the west LA/noho/south part of the valley, so their drives aren't terribly distant. That's likely why they don't tend to uncover too many gremlins right away.

I had the Tesla SUV park right next to my G05 X5 50i M-Sport this past Feb at the Grand Floridian at Disney. The funniest pic I should have taken was his plate read "NO-GASS". Right next to him my shiny Carbon Black X5 read "BMW-V8TT".

[iconoclast]

HAHAHA... I am not against EV or Hybrid tech. I simply have an issue with Tesla products and the company itself along with it's stock.

[TXSchnee]

Tesla stock is ridiculously over valued, I expect a correction if Rivian and Lucid Motors turn out good product. I wouldn't own a Tesla, purely due to Elon though, such a sanctimonious SOB.

[jsmonet]

i appreciate Tesla for their market pressure on more seasoned manufacturers. before then we had the little bubble ev-1, and little else going on

[huskerdoc2020]

Originally Posted by TXSchnee

Tesla stock is ridiculously over valued, I expect a correction if Rivian and Lucid Motors turn out good product. I wouldn't own a Tesla, purely due to Elon though, such a sanctimonious SOB.

Elon is pretty high on himself, but also way ahead of the game so he can be. In time, he will go down as a Steve Jobs. At least he's smart enough to not buy into the leftist morality.

[TXSchnee]

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Originally Posted by huskerdoc2020

Elon is pretty high on himself, but also way ahead of the game so he can be. In time, he will go down as a Steve Jobs. At least he's smart enough to not buy into the leftist morality.

Steve Jobs was a lackluster engineer, but a great marketer (Wozniak was the brains of early Apple). Not sure that Musk is way ahead of the game, Porsche is pretty close (Taycan and Model S within about 40 miles of range in the real world). Once the other big auto makers get serious, the gap will close quickly. Right now, the Lucid Air has more predicted range than a Model S. I am not sure why you brought politics into it, but Elon is a radical environmentalist, that is pretty leftist.

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by FredGarvin

Only when representing Great Lakes Feed & Grain in the quad cities area...

LOL. Good to see there's still people out there with a sense of humor. (and that know historical Saturday Night Live classics)

Now I'm super curious if that's your real name, or just an SNL homage.

Originally Posted by BYEIL

Did you ever get a X7 or do you just enjoy trolling this forum?

Okay... my Dark Shadow fell through (more in the DS thread), so I had to reorder. My new M50i just started production.