[hihowareyougood]

Originally Posted by Fined

Yikes. I'd much rather an E9X M3 than pay the prices these cars are going for right now. More than $45k on an M2 or M2C is more than the car is worth.

Funny you mention that, because I was recently on the lookout for an e90 m3, and it's both slim pickings and worse deals imo. 2010+ with 125k miles for 'just' $29k? Nah, ticking time bomb.

[Fined]

Originally Posted by hihowareyougood

Funny you mention that, because I was recently on the lookout for an e90 m3, and it's both slim pickings and worse deals imo. 2010+ with 125k miles for 'just' $29k? Nah, ticking time bomb.

Depends entirely on how you look at it. I wouldn't be buying a car like that without factoring the cost of an engine rebuild. I might even do it pre-emptively and do a 4.4 or 4.6 out of 4.0. I think the E9x M3 has way more staying power than the F87 regardless of potential upkeep costs. The M2 was a cheaper ownership option (in terms of fuel costs and potential failure costs) but after having it 3 years I can see its also less entertaining though it has fewer costly potential flaws.

[BallHog5873]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Difference for me on the used market was $6-9k at the time. S55 alone is worth that difference.

oh yeah for that difference all day

[annabellapizza]

Originally Posted by Fined

Yikes. I'd much rather an E9X M3 than pay the prices these cars are going for right now. More than $45k on an M2 or M2C is more than the car is worth.

Exactly. Sick of seeing guys asking mid 50k for a 2016 m2 with decent miles on it. The car is 7 years old! But I guess that's what this market is smh

[bbadillo]

Originally Posted by hybrid90

OMG!!! I was thinking the same thing!! I have the B58 in my 340i and that thing is a beast just waiting to be unleashed. But the nice thing about the N55 motor is it is SOOOOO linear that there are no surprises and it's very predictable which makes the car so much fun to drive. You know exactly what it's going to do.

I have seen a few videos and articles where they compared the OG M2 to the M2C and they've said the same thing. The M2C rides better, is more comfortable and much more headroom for power, but the OG M2 feels more connected and "Raw" (not to mention the sound).

My budget is what is limiting me, but I think even if it wasn't, I would still be looking at the OG M2, just find a low mileage/pristine 2018. But the one I'm hoping to pick up in the next couple of days is a great deal for the money and low miles considering it's a '16. So fingers crossed that the deal doesn't fall though today since today I will know for sure...

For sure !

I ended up finding a 40k mile 2020 m2c. It’s lovely. It was about 8k more than the 17-18 low mileage cars I found. But feels actually quicker and looks brand new still

[bbadillo]

Originally Posted by Fined

Yikes. I'd much rather an E9X M3 than pay the prices these cars are going for right now. More than $45k on an M2 or M2C is more than the car is worth.

But also wonder if it’s a long term keep. How will prices be long term. I know used cars will be heading downward eventually again. But as they become more rare like the m1. Wonder if they will hold more value than a more common m3. I have only seen about 2 m1 s in California. About 3-4 m2s. And an m3 every week.

[hybrid90]

Originally Posted by bbadillo

For sure !

I ended up finding a 40k mile 2020 m2c. It’s lovely. It was about 8k more than the 17-18 low mileage cars I found. But feels actually quicker and looks brand new still

I picked up a '16 M2 w/40K miles. It's about an 8.5/10.0, but it was the right color and right spec. A couple of small issues (part of how I got the price down) but I'm patient and will address them each in their turn.

I had to drive it home through the Kettleman Hills along with my 340i M Sport and that was just PHENOMENAL!! Car sticks to the road like it was on rails!! I'll be doing a post about the car, my initial thoughts on the car, comparison to the other BMW's I've had, the trip to purchase and bring it home and lastly airing the issues to see if anyone has some helpful insights.

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by Fined

Yikes. I'd much rather an E9X M3 than pay the prices these cars are going for right now. More than $45k on an M2 or M2C is more than the car is worth.

Dealership I know of that sells lots of BMWs, they post their clean E9X M3's for $60k. It makes me crack up every time.

[Moflow]

Originally Posted by bbadillo

But also wonder if it’s a long term keep. How will prices be long term. I know used cars will be heading downward eventually again. But as they become more rare like the m1. Wonder if they will hold more value than a more common m3. I have only seen about 2 m1 s in California. About 3-4 m2s. And an m3 every week.

In North America, they sold about 7k OG M2s, so there are probably 10k-15k F87s in the US total.

I think around 25k M3s from the E90/92 generation in north America, though that’s between 3 body styles.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by bbadillo

But also wonder if it's a long term keep. How will prices be long term. I know used cars will be heading downward eventually again. But as they become more rare like the m1. Wonder if they will hold more value than a more common m3. I have only seen about 2 m1 s in California. About 3-4 m2s. And an m3 every week.

Who cares. Buy the one you want, unless you just need something until you trade it for an electric car or something.

M2 is more common then 1M, but less common than the e9x m3. Then again sedan e90 m3 are more rare than coupes. It's also the only m3 with a NA V8 that revs to 8400. Maybe people who are staring down the barrel of only hybrid and electric new cars might want the used m3 with the high revving NA v8 engine to ride off into the ICE sunset rather than turbo 6. It's possible they hold value better.

But I'm getting away from my original point. Forget resale. It's a drop in the bucket. Get what you want.

[dcmac]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Looks great. You'll be much happier buying the M2C over the OG M2.

I laugh every time I read people saying the OG is 'better' for daily driving. The only ones who will ever say this are those trying to justify their purchase of the lesser car. Having driven both back to back many times, it's always extremely apparent. OG will always leave something to be desired. It's like the WRX vs. STi debate. No one with an STi is going to say the WRX is better, but WRX owners will always try to justify their purchase like it is.

The M2C is vastly improved in near every way. Doesn't matter if you're tracking it or not. Interior is nicer, handles better, much faster, more potential, etc. Sound can be fixed with an EL midpipe or any full exhaust.

As someone who has daily driven and tracked the OG, the Comp AND the CS, I am here to tell you this is just, like, your opinion man… because I happily took the OG for both duties and laughed all the way to the bank. Haven’t desired the other two since. That’s not to say they aren’t great cars (and indeed trump the OG on paper almost everywhere), just shows you this is a subjective thing you (and many others on here) try to make factual.

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

In early 2020 I bought a slightly used 2018 OG with 7k miles for $46k instead of spending $15k+ for a new comp that I felt was only incrementally (not vastly) different. Haven't regretted it for one second. Pretty sure I win.

[Fined]

Originally Posted by akkando

Who cares. Buy the one you want, unless you just need something until you trade it for an electric car or something.


But I'm getting away from my original point. Forget resale. It's a drop in the bucket. Get what you want.

Exactly this. Buy what you want, enjoy it. If you're in a position to afford a performance car like an M2 or E9X M3 then resale should be a moot point. Affording to own a car isn't only having the money to purchase it, but also the money to eat the associated costs like a new engine or a shitty resale value.

[captain slowly]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

In early 2020 I bought a slightly used 2018 OG with 7k miles for $46k instead of spending $15k+ for a new comp that I felt was only incrementally (not vastly) different. Haven't regretted it for one second. Pretty sure I win.

You win something, I just don't know exactly what when you compare pricing for a 2 year old car to a new car... news at 11

[vt_m2]

So, back to original topic - I picked up my 2019 M2C, with 9k miles ... and I'm in love. Did 3200 miles on it down to Keywest and back to Michigan in 6 days.

The power is more than enough for the road, the ride is fantastic, the looks are beautiful, and I stopped at ActiveAutowerks in Miami to upgrade the midpipe to EL, and picked up their exhaust too. Disconnected valve open. I don't want to be in Sport+ with traction off to have a normal exhaust...

And surprisingly with it's short stance - there is plenty of space in the back for not so small kid... As this will be my 4 seat car, that's really great!

[hihowareyougood]

Congrats! Looks fantastic. I am especially partial to LBB, as it does a great job showing off the body lines. Any sound clips of the new exhaust?

[vt_m2]

Originally Posted by hihowareyougood

Congrats! Looks fantastic. I am especially partial to LBB, as it does a great job showing off the body lines. Any sound clips of the new exhaust?

I don't have proper equipment to fairly capture the sound. It's way better then stock, but still nothing crazy at all when driving/ from the inside

This guy did a pretty good job capturing all modes

[KevinC]

[OG18M2]

Nice!

[KevM2]

Congrats!! You made a great choice to go with the S55 over the N55… we got both cars at home and the power difference and the handling imo, more than makes up for any inferior exhaust sound of the S55! Personally I love how the S55 sounds. The MPE on the N55 drones too much… if you plan on driving hard or tuning it, highly recommend considering an upgrade to the crank hub bolt… but I wouldn't worry too much as it's still a rare problem… also consider upgrading your top mount intercooler to an aftermarket one that's not prone to leaks… enjoy!!

[Lubanko]

Look's good to me! I came into the dealership wanting an m4, they showed me an m2 and let me drive it. Let's just say I left that dealership with an m2 instead.

[vt_m2]

Garage looks kinda full now