[UKMS]

Ive asked a similar question on the X5 forum (about a 2019 X5 )

My original intention was to buy an X5 but as often happens ive been side tracked.

Ive been offered an attractive deal (by UAE standards) on a pretty high spec X7 40i the bottom line cost is little more than what I would spend on an X5.

I have an identical spec on an extended test and have to say I love it (who wouldnt !)

Firstly - is there any reason not to buy a new 2019 MY (June 2019) now ? Any major changes or issues that affect 2019 models ?

Secondly - I dont actually 'need' such a large vehicle but my preference is to drive one, I dont lug kids around, on a daily basis its me driving to work and in leisure time its me and my wife. Occasionally take adult passengers. The X5 would be perfectly good for me however because of the tempting deal I'm leaning towards the X7.

Has anyone else been tempted to upsize and have any regrets ? or indeed the opposite.

Thoughts appreciated

Apologies for making the post long but have pasted the spec below and would also value input / thoughts.

Thanks
===================================
X7 40iX
Series G07 (X Series)
Body Type SAV
Steering Left Hand Drive
Engine B58C
Displacement 3
Power 250kw / 340hp
Drive ALLR
Transmission Automatic
Colour Mineral-weiss metallic (A96)
Upholstery Leather Merino tartufo (VATQ

Editions And Packages
S7LY Design Pure Excellence

Comfort And Interior Equipment
S4NM Ambient Air Paket
S4ML Interior Strips, Piano Lacquer, Black
S418 Luggage Compartment Package
S417 Roller Sun Visor, Rear Door
S4UR Ambient Interior Light
S421 Fire Extinguisher, Halon 2 Kg
S453 Climate-Controlled Seats, Front
S441 Smoker Package
S4T7 Massage Function F.Driver & Fr.Passenger
S456 Comfort Seat With Memory
S407 Panorama Glass Roof, Sky Lounge
S442 Drink Holder
S494 Seat Heating Driver/Passenger
S4NN Automatic A/C With 5-Zone Control
S423 Floor Mats Velours
S428 Warning Triangle And First Aid Kit
S4M5 Individual Leather-Covered Dashboard
S4A2 Glass Application Crafted Clarity

Multimedia
S688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound System
S6CP Preparation Apple CarPlay
S6AC Intelligent Emergency Call
S6NV Telephony With Wireless Charging
S6FH Rear-Cabin Entertainment, Professional
S610 Head-Up Display
S6AK Connected Drive Services
S6C3 Digital Professional
S6U8 BMW Gesture Control
S6U3 BMW Live Operating Area Professional
S6AE Teleservices
- Bavsound Speaker Upgrade Available

Driver Assistance And Lightning
S5DN Parking Assistance System Plus
S5A1 LED Fog Lights
S5AC High-Beam Assistant
S5AZ BMW Laserlicht
S5AU Driving Assistant Professional
S548 Kilometre Speedo
S5AL Active Protection

Wheels And Drive
S2VH Integral Active Front Steering
S255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel
S2TB Sport Automatic Gearbox
S2VB Tyre Pressure Display
S258 Tyres With Runflat Properties
S212 Equipment, Brake Syst. Country-Specific

Environment And Safety
S8TR Decoding Additional Functions
S3AT Roof Rails Aluminium Satinated
S845 Acoustic Fasten Seat Belt Reminder
S328 Footplate, Aluminium
S8TN Daytime Driv.Lights Adjus.Via Light Menu
S323 Soft-Close-Automatic Doors
S3E3 Präsenzpaket Exterieur
S887 On-Board Literature, Arabic
S322 Comfort Access
S3DS BMW Display Key
S3AW Spray Nozzles Without Heating
S822 Gulf Version
S8KM Oil Serv. Interval 12,000 Km/12 Months
S823 Hot-Climate Version
S880 On-Board Literature, English
S8A3 Language Version, Arabic
S8SM Car Ident. Number Visible From Outside
S893 Middle-East Package

Individual Equipment
S778 Entrance Strips "BMW Individual"
S776 Roofliner Alcantara Anthracite

Other Equipment
S1MA M Sports Exhaust System
S956 Middle-East Package
S1YC 22" LA Wheel Multi Spoke 757 Emerg.Op.
S9AA Outer Skin Protection
S1A1 Ausst. Kraftstoffe Mit Verkokungsneigung
S993 Model Year Code In VIN
S955 MO Package
S925 Dummy-SALAPA

[BzsBimmer]

Similar story here. I was originally looking at an X5 (pretty loaded) and decided for the minor uptick in costs, moving to an X7 made sense both for the room and the utilitarian factor.

No regrets on my side. The 40i is more than powerful for our family needs.

[DSTJ99]

I've had my X7 for two months now and love. I recently drove an X5 loaner for a few days while my windshield was being replaced and it really made me appreciate the X7 even more. The overall size of the car is not that much larger but the interior and extra space is noticeable. If you are driving people in the 2nd or 3rd row they will appreciate the extra space. I didn't think the handling was that noticeable and frankly I'm not racing around back roads in this car anyway. That said it does handle quite well for a large SUV and the build quality and comfort is top notch.

On the 2019 vs. 2020 there were some minor changes but nothing that should hold you back if the deal is right. If it is a purchase just understand that we are already more than half way through 2020 model year and by the fall this car will be two years old from a resale perspective. If you are not leasing it I would think the discount might need to be 20+% to avoid being underwater after the used value drops.

[iconoclast]

[Resjudicata]

Get the x7 over the x5. But with a June 2019 x7; it's been sitting for almost 1 year and that's not good. Also x7 was all new in 2019. Usually it's best to avoid year 1 and get a late generations in the cycles.

The biggest difference for me was the x5m has dynamic handling; and the x7 is all air. It's not even an option for regular sport handling. However it's a family hauler. The closest thing BMW will have to a minivan. It's way comfortable, just not sporty.

I have a family and we need a big haulers. So if you're in the same boat, get an x7. But if it's a 2019, you need at least 20%+ off MSRP minimum.

I'd negotiate for around minimum 25% off plus all weather mats on all 3 rows and trunk; and full warranties for 7 years and full tire and wheel insurance ALL included for an OTD price around 20%+ under Invoice.

They are desperate to sell now, but production is being reduced so while supply is dropping so is demand. Also with the shut down less people are buying. I'd think that you can get a great deal done now.

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by UKMS

Ive asked a similar question on the X5 forum (about a 2019 X5 )

My original intention was to buy an X5 but as often happens ive been side tracked.

Ive been offered an attractive deal (by UAE standards) on a pretty high spec X7 40i the bottom line cost is little more than what I would spend on an X5.

I have an identical spec on an extended test and have to say I love it (who wouldnt !)

Firstly - is there any reason not to buy a new 2019 MY (June 2019) now ? Any major changes or issues that affect 2019 models ?

Secondly - I dont actually 'need' such a large vehicle but my preference is to drive one, I dont lug kids around, on a daily basis its me driving to work and in leisure time its me and my wife. Occasionally take adult passengers. The X5 would be perfectly good for me however because of the tempting deal I'm leaning towards the X7.

Has anyone else been tempted to upsize and have any regrets ? or indeed the opposite.

Thoughts appreciated

Apologies for making the post long but have pasted the spec below and would also value input / thoughts.

Thanks
===================================
X7 40iX
Series G07 (X Series)
Body Type SAV
Steering Left Hand Drive
Engine B58C
Displacement 3
Power 250kw / 340hp
Drive ALLR
Transmission Automatic
Colour Mineral-weiss metallic (A96)
Upholstery Leather Merino tartufo (VATQ

Editions And Packages
S7LY Design Pure Excellence

Comfort And Interior Equipment
S4NM Ambient Air Paket
S4ML Interior Strips, Piano Lacquer, Black
S418 Luggage Compartment Package
S417 Roller Sun Visor, Rear Door
S4UR Ambient Interior Light
S421 Fire Extinguisher, Halon 2 Kg
S453 Climate-Controlled Seats, Front
S441 Smoker Package
S4T7 Massage Function F.Driver & Fr.Passenger
S456 Comfort Seat With Memory
S407 Panorama Glass Roof, Sky Lounge
S442 Drink Holder
S494 Seat Heating Driver/Passenger
S4NN Automatic A/C With 5-Zone Control
S423 Floor Mats Velours
S428 Warning Triangle And First Aid Kit
S4M5 Individual Leather-Covered Dashboard
S4A2 Glass Application Crafted Clarity

Multimedia
S688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound System
S6CP Preparation Apple CarPlay
S6AC Intelligent Emergency Call
S6NV Telephony With Wireless Charging
S6FH Rear-Cabin Entertainment, Professional
S610 Head-Up Display
S6AK Connected Drive Services
S6C3 Digital Professional
S6U8 BMW Gesture Control
S6U3 BMW Live Operating Area Professional
S6AE Teleservices
- Bavsound Speaker Upgrade Available

Driver Assistance And Lightning
S5DN Parking Assistance System Plus
S5A1 LED Fog Lights
S5AC High-Beam Assistant
S5AZ BMW Laserlicht
S5AU Driving Assistant Professional
S548 Kilometre Speedo
S5AL Active Protection

Wheels And Drive
S2VH Integral Active Front Steering
S255 Sports Leather Steering Wheel
S2TB Sport Automatic Gearbox
S2VB Tyre Pressure Display
S258 Tyres With Runflat Properties
S212 Equipment, Brake Syst. Country-Specific

Environment And Safety
S8TR Decoding Additional Functions
S3AT Roof Rails Aluminium Satinated
S845 Acoustic Fasten Seat Belt Reminder
S328 Footplate, Aluminium
S8TN Daytime Driv.Lights Adjus.Via Light Menu
S323 Soft-Close-Automatic Doors
S3E3 Präsenzpaket Exterieur
S887 On-Board Literature, Arabic
S322 Comfort Access
S3DS BMW Display Key
S3AW Spray Nozzles Without Heating
S822 Gulf Version
S8KM Oil Serv. Interval 12,000 Km/12 Months
S823 Hot-Climate Version
S880 On-Board Literature, English
S8A3 Language Version, Arabic
S8SM Car Ident. Number Visible From Outside
S893 Middle-East Package

Individual Equipment
S778 Entrance Strips "BMW Individual"
S776 Roofliner Alcantara Anthracite

Other Equipment
S1MA M Sports Exhaust System
S956 Middle-East Package
S1YC 22" LA Wheel Multi Spoke 757 Emerg.Op.
S9AA Outer Skin Protection
S1A1 Ausst. Kraftstoffe Mit Verkokungsneigung
S993 Model Year Code In VIN
S955 MO Package
S925 Dummy-SALAPA

Side note, if it's me just going to work, I'd get an m8. If you need room for wife and a few adults occasionally, I'd get the new m8 Grand coupe 4 door.

However if you want a sporty SUV, go x5. If you want the big boy, get x7. Also a Tahoe is similar to an x7 for towing things like a boat.

If you want the luxury of a 7 series sedan in an SUV, get x7. If you want the sporty of an m3 or m4, get the x5. If you're looking for full power of an m5, get the m8comp.

[UKMS]

Lots of interesting thoughts

100% want an SUV

Couple of differences here compared to Europe or US

Firstly 2 dealers have monopoly over the whole UAE so not that easy to get a good discount unless they want to shift vehicles quickly (as is the case here).

Secondly what tends to happen is that the dealers usually bulk order with identical spec and different colour / interior options, usually a mid range spec and then a pretty high spec. Its infrequent for a factory order.

The only 2020 X7 I can get is full option and almost full price and more than I want to spend so the only option for me on the X7 is to take the 2019 at just shy of 30% discount.

The only 2020 X5 40i I can currently get is what I would describe is a mid spec M Sport, its very nice but lacks 2 things I want which is comfort seats and Air suspension.

I can get a high spec X5 40i M Sport but its 2019 built 6/19 at a good discount.

What to do !!

First world problems

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by UKMS

Lots of interesting thoughts

100% want an SUV

Couple of differences here compared to Europe or US

Firstly 2 dealers have monopoly over the whole UAE so not that easy to get a good discount unless they want to shift vehicles quickly (as is the case here).

Secondly what tends to happen is that the dealers usually bulk order with identical spec and different colour / interior options, usually a mid range spec and then a pretty high spec. Its infrequent for a factory order.

The only 2020 X7 I can get is full option and almost full price and more than I want to spend so the only option for me on the X7 is to take the 2019 at just shy of 30% discount.

The only 2020 X5 40i I can currently get is what I would describe is a mid spec M Sport, its very nice but lacks 2 things I want which is comfort seats and Air suspension.

I can get a high spec X5 40i M Sport but its 2019 built 6/19 at a good discount.

What to do !!

First world problems

I see! it's a big difference over there. if you want comfort, comfort seats and air suspension (presumably for long trips or bump roads, or just comfortable); the get the x7.

the base x7 is better and more comfortable than top x5 for "luxury". I think you want luxury and comfort; so I'm going to say, buy the 2019 x7 40i

[Waise]

I bought my wife 2019 X7 40i loaded in June 2019. It is awesome ride and spacious for us with 2 kids. But for myself, I been looking and spec'ting X5 M50i. I am looking for sporty but with some space. Unfortunately, my X5 is getting more expensive than X7 I bought my wife.

[Resjudicata]

Originally Posted by Waise

I bought my wife 2019 X7 40i loaded in June 2019. It is awesome ride and spacious for us with 2 kids. But for myself, I been looking and spec'ting X5 M50i. I am looking for sporty but with some space. Unfortunately, my X5 is getting more expensive than X7 I bought my wife.

x7 M50i. who says you can't have 2 of the x7s.

[UKMS]

Lots to think about ...... even longer to think now as the dealer has effectively closed until further notice due to the current situation. However they were kind enough to have given me an extended test just before closure and have left me with a demo X7 to play with, that said I cant drive it that much with the restrictions in place here, but I'm having a good play whilst its parked on the drive with the tech to catch up with the differences from my old F15

[UKMS]

I've searched and can't see an answer ...... are the front seats in X7 and X5 exactly the same size ?

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by UKMS

I've searched and can't see an answer ...... are the front seats in X7 and X5 exactly the same size ?

Ja, identical seats used in both vehicles - standard sport seats, 20-way multi-contour and 20-way multi-contour with ventilation and massage (Luxury seating package).

[UKMS]

Originally Posted by Auricom

Ja, identical seats used in both vehicles - standard sport seats, 20-way multi-contour and 20-way multi-contour with ventilation and massage (Luxury seating package).

Great thanks !

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by UKMS

I've searched and can't see an answer ...... are the front seats in X7 and X5 exactly the same size ?

Yeah, pretty sure the front seat area of the interior is identical between the X5 and X7. Identical leg room, virtually identical headroom, same dash and layout, etc. It's the 2nd row and especially 3rd row that are different between the two.

[Heimdall]

Originally Posted by UKMS

Lots of interesting thoughts

100% want an SUV

Couple of differences here compared to Europe or US

Firstly 2 dealers have monopoly over the whole UAE so not that easy to get a good discount unless they want to shift vehicles quickly (as is the case here).

Secondly what tends to happen is that the dealers usually bulk order with identical spec and different colour / interior options, usually a mid range spec and then a pretty high spec. Its infrequent for a factory order.

The only 2020 X7 I can get is full option and almost full price and more than I want to spend so the only option for me on the X7 is to take the 2019 at just shy of 30% discount.

The only 2020 X5 40i I can currently get is what I would describe is a mid spec M Sport, its very nice but lacks 2 things I want which is comfort seats and Air suspension.

I can get a high spec X5 40i M Sport but its 2019 built 6/19 at a good discount.

What to do !!

First world problems

I would try to get the Abu Dhabi motors stock.
They tend to spec their cars much better than AGMC.

As for the comparison X7 Vs X5
Let's get down to basics a bit.

An X7 is basically you driving a classy 7 series on larger SUV form.

An X5 is like driving an executive 5 series again on an SUV form.

As everyone else have stated. if you want to turn heads and be in extra luxury , go X7. if you want to drive "Bin Sulayem" style go X5

Either way you won't go wrong. Best of luck.

[UKMS]

Originally Posted by Heimdall

I would try to get the Abu Dhabi motors stock.
They tend to spec their cars much better than AGMC.

As for the comparison X7 Vs X5
Let's get down to basics a bit.

An X7 is basically you driving a classy 7 series on larger SUV form.

An X5 is like driving an executive 5 series again on an SUV form.

As everyone else have stated. if you want to turn heads and be in extra luxury , go X7. if you want to drive "Bin Sulayem" style go X5

Either way you won't go wrong. Best of luck.

Thanks !
Interestingly on the X7 the Abu Dhabi stock is older (built Feb 19) and missing a couple of options but the X5 is higher spec albeit some options I'm not bothered about.

It's a strange situation as they both seem to be selling 2020 models quite well and in fact both offered 2020 models before discussing the older ones, I guess they must have over ordered early models or not sold so well last year.

All of that said right now I can't drive anything that much because of the current restrictions on travel here.

[Heimdall]

Originally Posted by UKMS

Thanks !
Interestingly on the X7 the Abu Dhabi stock is older (built Feb 19) and missing a couple of options but the X5 is higher spec albeit some options I'm not bothered about.

It's a strange situation as they both seem to be selling 2020 models quite well and in fact both offered 2020 models before discussing the older ones, I guess they must have over ordered early models or not sold so well last year.

All of that said right now I can't drive anything that much because of the current restrictions on travel here.

Stay strong
These travel restrictions are all over the place.


I'm guessing they Dealers would like to save themselves the big discounts on the older models.

That being said, I would double check if AD motors are still giving crazy officers discounts on top of what they are offering on the 2019's like they used to back in the days.
Maybe this will sway you in the right direction 🧭
Or even make you consider a fully loaded X5M with a decent discount

[UKMS]

so ...... decided to take the high spec X5 ..... I loved the X7 but just dont really need the extra size at the back.

[BzsBimmer]

.... until you do.
Well good choice either way. Now post pictures once you get your X5. Make them deliver it in a hermetically sealed bubble!!

[UKMS]

Originally Posted by BzsBimmer

.... until you do.
Well good choice either way. Now post pictures once you get your X5. Make them deliver it in a hermetically sealed bubble!!

When we sat down and thought about it ... I used the 7 seats in my LR Discovery twice in 2.5 years and rear seat passengers one time every couple of months if that so I'm sure we'll be ok ..... ended up limited choice of colours in the X7 that I could take on a good deal whereas X5 I had a good choice and also save a bit of cash. I viewed the one I'll probably buy earlier today still with much of its shipping wrap on. Was built June 25 and arrived at the port dockside in UAE on 9 December, so has been sitting around longer before it arrived here. I'll post some pics on the X5 forum.

[5ZFamily]

I have a 2019 Discovery that is about to be bought back by the manufacturer due to more than 70 days in the shop over 12 months. I'm currently trying to decide between leasing a 2019 x7 5.0 (with cold weather and premium package) vs a 2020 x7 4.0 with dynamic handling and cold weather. There is a difference of about $75/month lease price due to the dealership wanting to move the 2019. I would have to make a decision in the next few hours because they are closing tomorrow for the next few weeks. Which car do I go with?