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      03-28-2014, 03:11 PM   #45
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On top of 8000... will end up as 8800 total. Astute observation re: the additional people vs % of additional output. I hadn't thought of that, and you're right, it is quite amazing.
If you haven't had the opportunity to tour one of the BMW factories, you should try to make that happen. A huge amount of the vehicle is formed and assembled by robots. So, since they'll work 24-hour shifts without lunch or rest breaks, the more you can use them, the more stuff you can produce with fewer people to monitor the process. Even the welders can replace their own contact points when they wear out, so people are only needed to ensure the bin is full (and robots are doing some of that, too) and to reprogram them for enhancements or major maintenance (which doesn't happen often). So, fewer actual people are required, but their skill levels may need to be higher so they can adapt and service/monitor more things. Certainly, there are still some 'grunt' and/or monotonous jobs, but those are getting fewer and fewer as the robots and mechanization improve. And, you don't have to pay medical or retirement to a robot, so the initial costs are much more easily amortized which helps the bottom line, too.

The age of the dull, monotonous assembly line is expiring, at least in more advanced countries. At some point, those in China and other far eastern locales will see their work hours reduced, conditions improve, and life-styles enriched verses working 6-7 days and long hours, and the age of really cheap stuff will end, being replaced by still reasonable, highly automated assembly lines. Get a good education, either in a good trade school, or college, if you want to have a comfortable lifestyle; otherwise, you may only find a job at the local McDonalds.
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I'm just going to wait until the X8 or x9 comes out, so I can order mine.
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Excellent point and post, @jadnashuanh.

I actually have had the privilege of touring Spartanburg when I did my PCD last year.

Two things stood out to me from the announcement, first that I hadn't thought of the people vs production increase, and second, that I didn't realize (or recall) there being that large number of employees despite the automation.

As for education, that is good advice for today's youngsters. I'd rather be programming robots than doing their work as a grunt

I am 32 and dropped out of high school, but I do ok. Not working at McD's
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We will see what the car should potentially look soon.

But the long wheelbase allows the outline to be sleeker and more dynamic at the rear , yet still accommodate 7 people.
Think of a 7er but with a commanding driving position and SUV body.

The X7 will share engines and technology and engineering processes with the all new BMW 7er including extensive Carbon Fibre use in the structure and architecture. After two cancellations this vehicle is now feasible due to the processes involved from architecture to lightweight materials and sharing of technology including BMWs upcoming Active Ride technology , laser-light headlights and eDrive.

The X7 has also come about due to demand for luxury sedans diminishing in favour of large SUVs.

The X7 will not be the end of the expansion for the luxury segment for BMW.
This is good news!
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Good news. I mean X7
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Did someone write "Dummy" on the rear of that white X4? HA!
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2016 will be a great year for the 100th anniversary.

The new BMW 5er , BMW X7 , BMW Z3 , BMW X2 and the BMW M.
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2016 will be a great year for the 100th anniversary.

The new BMW 5er , BMW X7 , BMW Z3 , BMW X2 and the BMW M.


Please do tell us more!
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the BMW M.
For the love of God please tell me this is just a placeholder name. That BMW is not shamelessly trying to copy Ferrari.
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I wonder where this leaves the lonely X1. Will it move from Liepzig so that the entire X range will be produced in the good ole USA.…
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I wonder where this leaves the lonely X1. Will it move from Liepzig so that the entire X range will be produced in the good ole USA.…
The new X1 will be manufactured in three assembly sites.
Production of the F48 will remain in Leipzig, Germany and Shenyang, China where the LWB model will be made for the local market.
X1 will also be produced from a new factory in Araquari, Brazil.
This plant will also produce the 1er , MINI Countryman , BMW 3er
And the 2-series Active Tourer. The X2 is also expected to be made in Leipzig and Araquari. Araquari is expected to produce the X1 for North America.
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This is good news!
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Active Ride technology? what is that?? A BMW version of Magic Body Control? Hopefully so...

SCOTT26 quote: "The X7 will not be the end of the expansion for the luxury segment for BMW."

I smell the 7 series GT here! 8 series maybe?

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the way they're going, they will run out of digits and will have to go fractional, X3.4, X5.1, X7.3, X8.5dLxiM ....
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For the love of God please tell me this is just a placeholder name. That BMW is not shamelessly trying to copy Ferrari.
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Sweet!

That X4 profile looks amazing
Thats what I was thinking too!!
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I wonder where this leaves the lonely X1. Will it move from Liepzig so that the entire X range will be produced in the good ole USA.…
The new X1 will be manufactured in three assembly sites.
Production of the F48 will remain in Leipzig, Germany and Shenyang, China where the LWB model will be made for the local market.
X1 will also be produced from a new factory in Araquari, Brazil.
This plant will also produce the 1er , MINI Countryman , BMW 3er
And the 2-series Active Tourer. The X2 is also expected to be made in Leipzig and Araquari. Araquari is expected to produce the X1 for North America.
Is that "BMW M", the production version of that performance oriented vehicle that will be displayed at villa D'este?
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Aztek comments never get old do they

X4 looks good, not practical, but looks good and those buying it will give the same statement to the world as X6 buyers, a big F YOU, I like it and will buy what I damn well please.
I am not a fan of the X6 for a lot of reasons but the reality is it is a successful car on a global scale and doesn't cost much for BMW to develop because it is mostly an X5. I don't need to love every car BMW makes for me to love the M235i, M4 and M3.
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We will see what the car should potentially look soon.

But the long wheelbase allows the outline to be sleeker and more dynamic at the rear , yet still accommodate 7 people.
Think of a 7er but with a commanding driving position and SUV body.

The X7 will share engines and technology and engineering processes with the all new BMW 7er including extensive Carbon Fibre use in the structure and architecture. After two cancellations this vehicle is now feasible due to the processes involved from architecture to lightweight materials and sharing of technology including BMWs upcoming Active Ride technology , laser-light headlights and eDrive.

The X7 has also come about due to demand for luxury sedans diminishing in favour of large SUVs.

The X7 will not be the end of the expansion for the luxury segment for BMW.
The X7 is not the end of luxury expansion?

Is there a 9 series in the works?

A 960i to slot between the 7er and RR Ghost perhaps?
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