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      03-24-2019, 06:22 PM   #5479
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Agreed, it also means that sometimes you have to live under a president (and his policies) lawfully elected by said society that you may not like.
Agreed. I've said many times impeachment is a bad thing.

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No, it's truly amazing how you think that you have all the answers and everyone else is stupid. No, it's truly amazing the amount of arrogance that one person can demonstrate. No, it's truly amazing that really good people get totally trashed by you.
Ok pot, meet kettle. I've seen some of your posts that were fairly nasty towards some left-leaning posters and I've seen you appreciate even more nasty posts by other posters.

It is amazing how you can be nasty to others then criticize me.

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That is not at all what libertarianism is. It is much closer to “We can take care of ourselves, leave us alone” where “we” could be an individual, family, or community. I know a lot of people with that attitude, and if you look back even to the Great Depression you see people wanting to take care of themselves and not partake of the government cheese (when that was a literal term). Some vote R, some D, but they all really want less personally intrusive government.
Actually, that "we" is "we the people." That's the citizens of the US. Whether they be Democrat or Republican, rich or poor, 1st generation or came over on the Mayflower. If you want to help your community more or your family, that's fine too.

Unfortunately, not everyone can take care of themselves. Whether that be fiscally, or mentally, etc.

And we also have people who make stupid decisions not to vaccinate their kids because they know more than doctors. So I don't, maybe a libertarian utopia doesn't last long because everyone dies of measles or becomes crippled because of polio.

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In fact, I don’t know anyone with the attitude you expressed, and I know people at all economic positions (wealth and income, too). Most people agree that we should take care of each other; how to do that and particularly how much government (esp federal) should be involved is the key issue, not compassion or willingness to help.
Unfortunately I've met a few libertarians that are all about me, me, me. So maybe I've been ruined towards that mindset.

I totally agree with your last sentence. The thing is when people stovepipe who they want to help, where their assistance goes, or where their tax money guys, then we start running into problems. My tax money goes towards plenty of things that don't benefit me, that's fine. It's a good thing we have Republicans and Democrats who have different priorities. Our taxes should not go to just liberal or conservative agendas. Fortunately they go to a mixture of both.

And unlike a previous poster asserted, I don't have all the answers and I sure as hell don't know how to manage a country of 300 million people. That's why my tax money goes into a pot and is divided up by representatives from both the left and right to go into programs that "should" benefit everyone. Some will benefit more than others. That's fine too. And that's how a republic should work. Now we can have another debate if that system is actually working at the moment.



Lastly, MKSixer I do apologize for accusing you of being a selfish bastard. You do some like a good person who helps others. I'm sorry I made a broad generalization about you. Hopefully we can go back to having a discourse where we agree about absolutely nothing.
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      03-24-2019, 06:35 PM   #5480
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Some may not agree or like today's news but it was clearly a HIT for President Trump.... Bigly. A mature, knowledge person could admit that.
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      03-24-2019, 06:39 PM   #5481
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Ok pot, meet kettle. I've seen some of your posts that were fairly nasty towards some left-leaning posters and I've seen you appreciate even more nasty posts by other posters.

It is amazing how you can be nasty to others then criticize me.
Wrong. I don't appreciate personal attacks period. I am far from arrogant and don't accuse people of being stupid if they don't agree with me. You are very wrong, but it wouldn't be the first time - just like your way-off assessment of MK.
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      03-24-2019, 06:50 PM   #5482
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Wrong. I don't appreciate personal attacks period. I am far from arrogant and don't accuse people of being stupid if they don't agree with me. You are very wrong, but it wouldn't be the first time - just like your way-off assessment of MK.
Bullshit. I've seen you appreciate some nasty posts. Sometimes, you seem to be the only one appreciated said post.

I've apologized to MK. I was wrong and I admitted my mistake.

If you have any other problems with me, I suggest you take them to PM.
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Bullshit. I've seen you appreciate some nasty posts. Sometimes, you seem to be the only one appreciated said post.

I've apologized to MK. I was wrong and I admitted my mistake.

If you have any other problems with me, I suggest you take them to PM.
I rest my case.
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      03-24-2019, 07:02 PM   #5484
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I rest my case.


I only wish you were so compassionate to liberals as you are to conservatives in here.
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Bullshit. I've seen you appreciate some nasty posts. Sometimes, you seem to be the only one appreciated said post.

I've apologized to MK. I was wrong and I admitted my mistake.

If you have any other problems with me, I suggest you take them to PM.
I appreciate your apology. Thanks and I will attempt to be more civil in the future. Cheers-MK
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      03-24-2019, 08:09 PM   #5486
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Bullshit. I've seen you appreciate some nasty posts. Sometimes, you seem to be the only one appreciated said post.

I've apologized to MK. I was wrong and I admitted my mistake.

If you have any other problems with me, I suggest you take them to PM.
I appreciate your apology. Thanks and I will attempt to be more civil in the future. Cheers-MK
Me too. I know it's hard to get points across in a forum and it makes a nuanced discussion even more difficult.

Now can we get back to disagreeing about everything?
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Me too. I know it's hard to get points across in a forum and it makes a nuanced discussion even more difficult.

Now can we get back to disagreeing about everything?
I disagree. We've actually agreed on a few things AND we've liked each other's posts before. SCANDALOUS!!!
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Me too. I know it's hard to get points across in a forum and it makes a nuanced discussion even more difficult.

Now can we get back to disagreeing about everything?
I disagree. We've actually agreed on a few things AND we've liked each other's posts before. SCANDALOUS!!!
So it continues!
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Pornstar lawyer and hero of the left arrested today.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr...-fraud-charges
Obviously this was just a smoke screen in order to “obstruct” his Presidential campaign... lmao.
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Pornstar lawyer and hero of the left arrested today.

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From a Harvard Poll.

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From a Harvard Poll.
The question is how did we get here?

One could say there's no hope after the change...
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The question is how did we get here?

One could say there's no hope after the change...
So, Obama himself is the genesis of "fake news" or the zeitgeist during the Obama administration is?
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The question is how did we get here?
That one's pretty easy. The change began decades ago when the newsrooms stopped being just newsrooms and began being profit centers.
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That one's pretty easy. The change began decades ago when the newsrooms stopped being just newsrooms and began being profit centers.
Like our healthcare systems?
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That one's pretty easy. The change began decades ago when the newsrooms stopped being just newsrooms and began being PARTISAN profit centers.
FTFY...
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