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      12-18-2023, 09:22 PM   #1
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sanity check on offer

2024 40i was returned after 1 month as owner took delivery but then wanted a different color. (Story from dealer) so it’s being offered as a CPO with 1,800 miles on it. Clean Car Fax. Bought and serviced at dealer.

MSRP - $94,275
Offer - $87k

I walked as I feel I can get a better offer on a new order, this will be considered used as I’ll be second owner, etc. what made me most annoyed was the attitude of the “Manager” who said “we price per market” and yet I told him nobody paid MSRP and now it’s used - I offered him $84k out the door and they wouldn’t budge. It’s been on the lots for 30+ days

Am I being crazy? I am pretty confident I could order the same new and get about the same offer and better financing

Gut check me. Thanks.
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      12-18-2023, 09:38 PM   #2
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2024 40i was returned after 1 month as owner took delivery but then wanted a different color. (Story from dealer) so it’s being offered as a CPO with 1,800 miles on it. Clean Car Fax. Bought and serviced at dealer.

MSRP - $94,275
Offer - $87k

I walked as I feel I can get a better offer on a new order, this will be considered used as I’ll be second owner, etc. what made me most annoyed was the attitude of the “Manager” who said “we price per market” and yet I told him nobody paid MSRP and now it’s used - I offered him $84k out the door and they wouldn’t budge. It’s been on the lots for 30+ days

Am I being crazy? I am pretty confident I could order the same new and get about the same offer and better financing

Gut check me. Thanks.
Lots of factors play into whether they will go lower. If low inventory/allocations they budge less. If they have 10 X7s on the lot it is easier to get a lower price. Also location dependent. My dealerships nearby never have more than one or two X7s on the lot as they are very popular…if they won’t go lower find another dealer that will but be willing to travel or have them shipped to your dealer.
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      12-18-2023, 09:56 PM   #3
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Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. Inventory is terrible these days. This is the only CPO x7 and they have like 3 new. So that’s likely the issue but I still feel like it’s a crap deal. 7% off MSRP and it’s CPO…yuck
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Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. Inventory is terrible these days. This is the only CPO x7 and they have like 3 new. So that’s likely the issue but I still feel like it’s a crap deal. 7% off MSRP and it’s CPO…yuck
I agree crap deal especially for 40i. I would go elsewhere but they will probably get that price from someone. A while back a nearby dealer had an X7M60 with several thousand miles and they were asking for $5K off MSRP or something like that. I think they sold it for that because of low inventory….
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      12-18-2023, 10:12 PM   #5
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It's almost 8% off. Idk. Being used isn't going to change the value much if you trade it back in. There are a lot of people who don't care and simply want the vehicle.

I traded my 2024 X7 M60i after 4 months with 9k miles. They listed it for $108k. Msrp was $117,065. Not sure what they sold It for but I doubt it was less than $106-107k. I paid $113ish with dealer fee.(tax not added. I only paid small amt of tax, because I traded in 2021) They would only go 4% off at the time.
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I have an X7 M60i on order that is about to start assembly in a couple of weeks and I got it 8% off. Brand new custom order. So yeah, you can do better. If you are in CA feel free to DM me to give you the contact details of my broker

Check leasehackr forums
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I have an X7 M60i on order that is about to start assembly in a couple of weeks and I got it 8% off. Brand new custom order. So yeah, you can do better. If you are in CA feel free to DM me to give you the contact details of my broker

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It is a lot easier to get better deals with brokers….if you do it on your own, it is more work from your end…
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      12-18-2023, 11:22 PM   #8
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[QUOTE=YustonUser;30743349]2024 40i was returned after 1 month as owner took delivery but then wanted a different color. (Story from dealer) so it’s being offered as a CPO with 1,800 miles on it. Clean Car Fax. Bought and serviced at dealer.

MSRP - $94,275
Offer - $87k

I walked as I feel I can get a better offer on a new order, this will be considered used as I’ll be second owner, etc. what made me most annoyed was the attitude of the “Manager” who said “we price per market” and yet I told him nobody paid MSRP and now it’s used - I offered him $84k out the door and they wouldn’t budge. It’s been on the lots for 30+ days

Am I being crazy? I am pretty confident I could order the same new and get about the same offer and better financing

Gut check me. Thanks.

you did right thing by walking away. My friend closed a deal last weekend with 6% off msrp+2k incentives with 3.99% bmwfs. This is nva area. I have no idea on Texas market, but can't relate to buying at offered price in your case. If your aren't pressed to have a car right now, hold tight. Things will ease a bit after Dec as there will be lots of company car purchases in this month. You may not get good financing rate later but you might be able to bag better discounts.
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      12-19-2023, 10:22 AM   #9
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If you don’t someone else will buy it.
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      12-19-2023, 10:38 AM   #10
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2024 40i was returned after 1 month as owner took delivery but then wanted a different color. (Story from dealer) so it’s being offered as a CPO with 1,800 miles on it. Clean Car Fax. Bought and serviced at dealer.

MSRP - $94,275
Offer - $87k

I walked as I feel I can get a better offer on a new order, this will be considered used as I’ll be second owner, etc. what made me most annoyed was the attitude of the “Manager” who said “we price per market” and yet I told him nobody paid MSRP and now it’s used - I offered him $84k out the door and they wouldn’t budge. It’s been on the lots for 30+ days

Am I being crazy? I am pretty confident I could order the same new and get about the same offer and better financing

Gut check me. Thanks.
You're in TX - find a broker who can get you much more than that discount on a new one.
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      12-19-2023, 11:05 AM   #11
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i would be wary of the story that someone traded it in because of not liking the color.
i would suspect a trade assist, i would ask for the service records. early in the production run the 2024s were suffering faulty brake boosters, and the parts delay was causing them to be bought back.
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i would be wary of the story that someone traded it in because of not liking the color.
i would suspect a trade assist, i would ask for the service records. early in the production run the 2024s were suffering faulty brake boosters, and the parts delay was causing them to be bought back.
FWIW, my uncle bought a 330e, drove it home, hated it, and traded it in immediately with less than 150 miles on it (came out ahead due to EV tax credit lol).
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I was trying to find a good used CPO ‘24 40i or ‘23 M60i replacement for my ‘23 40i, and frankly I’m amazed at the condition of some of the cars dealers are showing. I’m talking crumbs, sticky goo on seats, ink stains in trunks, overt major scratches, clearly no detailing - all for single digits off MSRP even with ~20k miles. With no shame, little negotiation, just take it or leave it. Supply and demand I suppose - they know somebody else will come in and buy so why bother? Or maybe dealers in my region are just sloppy.


There really isn’t a whole lot to look at here in the 23+ model years.
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      12-20-2023, 01:54 AM   #14
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I got my new spec’d 40i in Dravit grey for 6% off back in September and have seen others get 8% since then. I would buy new.
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      12-20-2023, 04:04 PM   #15
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Thanks all! I went new and took delivery of a new Skyscraper/Black 40i yesterday. 6% off MSRP plus $2500 incentive. So ~9% off MSRP. I felt good about it and they were great to work with - had to drive a little out of the way to a different dealer but they were willing to earn the business.
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