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NEW RELEASE: Dinan F2x/F3x Adjustable Camber Plate Kit
Part Number: D160-0007 - Dinan Adjustable Camber Plates for BMW F2x M235i & 228i / F3x 320i, 328i, 335i, 340i, 428i, & 435i Labor Time: 3.5 hrs Details and Pricing: Consult www.dinancars.com. Dinan's F2x / F3x Camber Plates allow an impressive 43mm of total camber adjustment (30 negative, 13 positive) providing for a more aggressive negative camber setting that dramatically improves grip in the turns for reduced understeer and razor sharp turn-in. The positive adjustment range on the camber plates is unique to Dinan and allows the end user, if desired, to retain OEM camber settings on a lowered car or to combat excessive negative camber brought upon by springs that aggressively lower the car. Not only do the Dinan camber plates provide a wide range of adjustment but they also have ride quality in mind like all of Dinan's suspension components and are designed to properly retain the bumpstop so that it compresses as designed from the factory. There is no reason for camber plates to wildly inhibit ride quality if engineered properly. Dinan camber plates are also built to take a beating and are the only ones that utilize a steel alloy mount plate that will resist deforming from pot holes on the street or curb hopping at the track. Aggressive drivers will benefit from reduced outside edge tire wear as well. Benefits of the F2x / F3x Camber Plate Kit:
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2. Compatible with stock diameter springs only. 3. Ride height effectively remains the same when installed. Waiting on engineering to review the drawings but was told there may be a "negligible increase of a mm or 2". Confirmed BTW the ride height varies between 1-1.5mm with the camber plates installed. Negligible. Last edited by Dinan_Engineering; 02-03-2016 at 10:44 AM.. |
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It is possible they will have a slight increase in road noise and the product page notes as such. I personally don't hear a difference but some of the more sensitive ears in the shop swear they hear them. rwalker may be able to offer his own insight on them though.
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I can unequivocally say that Dinan plates are the best plates available today for these cars. |
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The basis for my opinion is that I've tried every plate available for these cars, and Dinan plates have the fewest shortcomings. GC: noise and weak radial bearing, loss of steering feel TC Kline: noise, ill fitment, lack of adjustability K-MAC: don't fit without cutting strut brace, fragile Looking forward to trying the Vorshlag plates once they're available. -Rob |
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Some more info. 328i xdrive with 400m wheels running 245/40/18, Bilstien PSS B14 coilovers at 26.5in front drop and 26.25 rear drop (from fender). Left side camber is at -2.6, adjustment is maxed out. Right side camber is at -2.6, with 1 tick left with the adjustments. Caster at 6.6 on both sides. Had to double washer the slotted bolt, bolt was a tiny bit too long. Road noise from tires are increased, very noticeable even at 15mph. Say stock is a 8, coils + drop is a 6.5, coils + drop + plates is a 5.5. My understanding is that the increased noise is not because of the plates but due to the increase in negative camber causing the tires to roar louder. Last edited by dreamwonder; 04-07-2016 at 11:53 PM.. |
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Update: my spherical bearings have worn out, causing lots of clunking over sharp bumps. I've contacted Dinan for help.
These have maybe 1500 miles on 'em. One autocross and one track weekend. Movement of the spherical bushing in its race illustrated: |
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Update: Dinan warranty got in touch with me Monday morning, immediately overnighted me a new set of sliders, and they're now on the car. Fantastic support.
The really excessive clunking is fixed. I have one more test: my parking garage, the floor of which is like a washboard, to see if the more minor noises are also addressed. I'm cautiously optimistic. These sliders have much, much tighter spherical bearings than my last set. When new, my last pair would yield to bearing deflection attempts from my fingers. This new set wouldn't budge, even to opposing thumbs with plenty of grunting. I wonder if the design/vendor/clearances have been adjusted since the first manufacturing run... Dinan/Nathan, can you comment?
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New sliders are quiet in my parking garage. I'm at 12843 miles today, we'll see how long they stay tight
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Any feedback on the root cause failure analysis on those failed bearings off of RWalker's car? I'm very interested to order these, but it's not too encouraging that the one user report has a failure after 1500 miles of the one part that explicitly has no warranty coverage. Please convince me that I'm not going to regret ordering these. Thanks. Bob |
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The units got back to us this past Thursday and the tail end of the week/weekend was dedicated to a race team that launched at Laguna Seca so nothing happened with the caber plates last week due to all hands being tied up there. The beginning of this week saw quite a few of the engineers take a day off on Monday/Tuesday since they were putting in 5 days straight of long hours (in some cases 24 hours shifts in order to get the car prepped for race weekend). Needless to say yesterday was the first day we really had any meaningful engineering crew back in the office and even then only a cursory glance was taken at the camber plates because they were now behind on other projects. To my knowledge nothing meaningful has been discovered about those plates to explain the failure but then again they haven't been dug into very much I don't think yet either. Rob may have more information then I though as he has been in contact with the warranty/tech support department on the matter so maybe he got some inkling today that I am not aware of. |
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I'm relatively new to BMW, but I've long been aware of the respected Dinan brand name. I've got Dinan springs on order for my M235i. I hope that I can trust that if I choose Dinan camber plates, you will ensure the product lives up to your name. Bob |
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They said "a few weeks" until they are back up and stocked. Said something about the first batch had manufacturing issues and they are getting new production done. |
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