0W-12

haggis444 · 10-18-2022, 09:59 AM

So I popped the hood on my 2023 X7 40i to do my first oil change. And saw this sticker.

Anyone else have this one theirs? And more importantly WTF? Manual states 0W-20/0W-30.

themama · 10-18-2022, 12:15 PM

interesting.. wonder if this is as part of the mild hybrid upgrade. But MY21 and 22 also had it. the rating 12 (in 0w-12) means the high temperature tolerance is also low.
Curious to know more on this now...

haggis444 · 10-18-2022, 12:23 PM

Sure, I am definitely familiar with the weight spec. Maybe I am just old school but my daughter's RAV4 calls for 20W and I cringe every time I change the oil. And I am aware that BMW started calling for 20W as well. I was just floored by the 12W spec on the sticker. The manual does state BMW Longlife-12 FE or BMW Longlife-17 FE+. I am just not aware of that spec allowing for 12W. I always thought the LL-12 meant 0W-30 and LL-17 was 0W-20. I can't find any mention of any spec allowing 12W.

streborx · 10-18-2022, 01:13 PM

Must be the metric equivalent of 0W-30 -- 30mm = 1.2 inches (lol).

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themama Private First Class 73 Rep 199 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X7, 2016 BMW 535xi Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	interesting.. wonder if this is as part of the mild hybrid upgrade. But MY21 and 22 also had it. the rating 12 (in 0w-12) means the high temperature tolerance is also low. Curious to know more on this now...
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10-18-2022, 12:23 PM	#3
haggis444 Private 31 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 2022 X5 M50i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW X7 xDrive40i [0.00] 2012 BMW 328i [0.00] 2014 BMW 535xi [0.00] 2022 BMW X5 M50i [0.00]	Sure, I am definitely familiar with the weight spec. Maybe I am just old school but my daughter's RAV4 calls for 20W and I cringe every time I change the oil. And I am aware that BMW started calling for 20W as well. I was just floored by the 12W spec on the sticker. The manual does state BMW Longlife-12 FE or BMW Longlife-17 FE+. I am just not aware of that spec allowing for 12W. I always thought the LL-12 meant 0W-30 and LL-17 was 0W-20. I can't find any mention of any spec allowing 12W.
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10-18-2022, 01:13 PM	#4
streborx Major 653 Rep 1,078 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X7 M50i Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	Must be the metric equivalent of 0W-30 -- 30mm = 1.2 inches (lol).
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