[MB21]

Dear All, looks like the X7 M50i despite marketing captain and official BMW materials is not what is promised. The car supposed to be 155mph top speed if equipped with summer performance tires and in fact is locked same way as 40i. To make things worst apparently this is not a mistake but deliberate decision on X7 Product managers, they know the marketing day one thing and still do not care!!!

So all who purchased X7 M50i with summer performance set have been cheated by the brand we all so trust and believe in. This is externally disappointing, looks like if this is not resolved it will be my last BMW...

It feels like BMW is going same path like VW with diesel gate, promises things on paper and do not deliver perhaps customers are never gone figure it out.

I was patiently trying to solve this in the past weeks but response from executive office of BMW telling me that Product management is aware that all 2020 cars are locked at 130 mph and does not feel any reason to fix the problem tells me that this was deliberate and planned, not an error but deliberately providing false information to BMW customers...

[iconoclast]

How do you know it is limited to 130mph? Why do you need it go over 155mph in MN?

[MystroX5]

I have yet to test mine but I can tell you my last 2019 G05 X5 50i M-Sport with AS tires and it was suppose to have a 130mph limiter and it didn’t. Just saying some times that enhanced speed limiter might be just marketing as well.

Whether you should or should not go that fast is another topic and a can of worms to avoid. I personal don’t want anyone’s unsolicited opinion on what I do as they won’t know the circumstance or situation. I can very easily get some track time as I have done over the last 3 decades with other cars. Respectfully, it’s really no ones business.

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

I have yet to test mine but I can tell you my last 2019 G05 X5 50i M-Sport with AS tires and it was suppose to have a 130mph limiter and it didn’t. Just saying some times that enhanced speed limiter might be just marketing as well.

Whether you should or should not go that fast is another topic and a can of worms to avoid. I personal don’t want anyone’s unsolicited opinion on what I do as they won’t know the circumstance or situation. I can very easily get some track time as I have done over the last 3 decades with other cars. Respectfully, it’s really no ones business.

Yes, but this is a car enthusiast forum where opinions are a large part of the information that is provided and discussed by forum members. The OP is clearly adamant about this speed limiter issue with the M50i enough to make ANOTHER thread about it. It seems fair game for other forum members to voice their opinions on the subject matter posted by the OP. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree if need be.

My $ .02 opinion? This topic of the speed limiter in the US being capped at 130 mph, especially for a full size SUV like the X7 is pointless. While I agree a car manufacturer should be accurate with marketing materials so people know exactly what they are paying for, there are other similar BMW quirks that probably would deserve better attention, IMHO. Now in Germany (or any other country where you can travel up to those speeds legally), that would be a different story. But then I think the driving standards (and driving education) in countries like Germany are better than the US. Your average German driver is probably better trained to handle those high speeds on public roads over your average US driver, or so I have been told...

The reality is, the only place a 155 mph speed limiter can be safely tested in the US is on a track. And as a guy who also takes his car to the track (and enjoys short jaunts to 150+ mph at the track), most organizations I know of don't allow full size SUV's at the track - even BMWCCA (but there might be a few). So where could this option be exercised even if you had it?

My additional $ .02 would be speculation that the BMW lawyers in the US told them to pull it as the US is probably the most sue happy country in the world. After all, this is the country where a person can order hot coffee in a drivethru, spill it on themselves, then sue saying the coffee was too hot and actually win. I could only imagine what a potential lawsuit might look like that involves a high speed accident where excess triple digit speeds were involved. But that is just speculation IMHO...

So if the OP wants to say bye-bye to BMW because of this issue, well, that is his opinion....

Standing by...

[djxilo]

ECU tune?

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by djxilo

ECU tune?

Yea, if it is indeed restricted to 130mph and want 155mph, then a simple code is all it should take. It’s not that important to me as the blast from 65mph to 110mph is effortless and intoxicating but beyond that adrenaline kick, it doesn’t add or take away anything from my enjoyment of the M50i if I can’t technically go 155mph. Philosophically I understand why someone might be upset. I work in the firearms industry and I own many full auto platforms for work as well as a collector just because “I can”. Would I “need them”?....not really if I was just a enthusiast.

[stockguru]

As one poster says, U.S. Is sue happy. So my advice is find an attorney that will work on a contingency, file a class action suit with all x7 m50 owners and see what bmw does.

[Wild Blue]

I'm just wondering, why doesn't BMW fix the specs to reality?

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

I'm just wondering, why doesn't BMW fix the specs to reality?

I don’t think we know for sure there is a 130mph limiter yet. As mentioned above, there wasn’t on my last X5 and there should have been a 130mph limiter.

[exokiss]

While it has not been embraced in the United States as of yet, many drivers are already using portable devices that pick up the speed limit data and warn a driver when they are going faster than it allows. Nothing new under the roof.

What I think is happening with the speed limitations is, the EU and all automakers are in their final phases aligning their marketing and production strategies towards the upcoming industry changes scheduled for 2022.

I really doubt BMW neglected nor intentionally took away from their fans the fury for speed. It's all planned. However, I do really believe that all these regulations, standards, and policies are made to be like a domino effect spreading throughout the entire automobile industry, and for sure, I'd say triggered by some people in...Washington, DC.

https://etsc.eu/etsc-welcomes-provis...ety-standards/

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by exokiss

While it has not been embraced in the United States as of yet, many drivers are already using portable devices that pick up the speed limit data and warn a driver when they are going faster than it allows. Nothing new under the roof.

What I think is happening with the speed limitations is, the EU and all automakers are in their final phases aligning their marketing and production strategies towards the upcoming industry changes scheduled for 2022.

I really doubt BMW neglected nor intentionally took away from their fans the fury for speed. It's all planned. However, I do really believe that all these regulations, standards, and policies are made to be like a domino effect spreading throughout the entire automobile industry, and for sure, I'd say triggered by some people in...Washington, DC.

https://etsc.eu/etsc-welcomes-provis...ety-standards/

Oh dear. Looking at the summary of new stuff proposed there, although some of them could be beneficial, it sure seem to me to be, in general, big nanny-state stuff. Yuck.

[toddwalton]

I am heartbroken and deserve reparations as I was so looking forward to taking my $100,000 luxury truck up to 165 MPH on roads that max at 65 MPH speed limits, your honor.

[exokiss]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

I am heartbroken and deserve reparations as I was so looking forward to taking my $100,000 luxury truck up to 165 MPH on roads that max at 65 MPH speed limits, your honor.

If they're going to monitor our a**es and every each of our pistons then I'd better migrate my passion to the ocean. Ready, steady...sail race. 😎

[MomoM3]

I usually go off the Order Guide vs. their marketing materials. Of course, there's no mention of 840 Increased Top Speed Limiter in MY2020 but it's called out in the MY2021 guide.

Not that I'd ever use it but I purposefully spec'ed my X7 with 1XR just to get 840. Depending on the BMW model, sometimes you have to add a $2,500 Driver's Package just to have the top speed limited increased coupled with a driving class.

MY2020 Ordering Guide


MY2021 Ordering Guide

[MomoM3]

Meanwhile, I'd have gladly given up the Increased Top Speed Limiter for the option to spec an X7 M50i with the 22" 755M (1SP) bi-color black wheels!

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Meanwhile, I'd have gladly given up the Increased Top Speed Limiter for the option to spec an X7 M50i with the 22" 755M (1SP) bi-color black wheels!

Yes, I find it a little odd that those wheels, and the code 1SL wheels, style 756, do not also come with the code 840 increase top speed limiter. Actually, same thing with the code 1Y7, style 755M wheels. (which are just a cerium colored version of the 1SP wheels)

All 4 of those wheels are 22", all 4 with performance RF tires. So why only the 1XR style 758i wheels? Doesn't seem to be anything special about them.

[Heimdall]

I'm genuinely interested to see how this progresses

[r33_RGSport]

Interesting topic.

Some doesn't want to mod their BMW because scared of voiding warranty.
But in this case, looking to speed up over speed limit up to limiter way beyond the posted speed limit.

But, IMO, it could be a soft limiter since the engine is not up to its maximum operating condition or still at low miles / break-in period.

[jsmonet]

has anyone actually taken their m50i, summer-tire-equipped + told the car it's wearing them, to 130 and confirmed it's actually capped?

[crackerjack15]

40i is capped at 130 with same wheels/tires. Why wouldn't the 50i be? They are basically identical vehicles besides the 8cyl and power.

[Sphinx_77]

I moved to Switzerland a couple weeks ago and my 40i is currently following me on a ship in the Atlantic. It is due to arrive in Rotterdam and will be floated down the Rhine river on barge. We are to be reunited in about 3 weeks. I am now located less then 15 min away from Germany and just for curiosity's sake will give it a run on the autobahn and let you know at what speed I can get it to.

[crackerjack15]

Originally Posted by Sphinx_77

I moved to Switzerland a couple weeks ago and my 40i is currently following me on a ship in the Atlantic. It is due to arrive in Rotterdam and will be floated down the Rhine river on barge. We are to be reunited in about 3 weeks. I am now located less then 15 min away from Germany and just for curiosity's sake will give it a run on the autobahn and let you know at what speed I can get it to.

This is what you are going to see...