[MB21]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

How do you know it is limited to 130mph? Why do you need it go over 155mph in MN?

It is confirmed by BMW it is not about what speed I want to go but what I was promised when I purchased the car, it is one of the car specifications which is not being met

[crackerjack15]

How about when I bought my 2015 X5 35i. I could swear the promotional materials quoted 27 mpg highway and then all of a sudden after the diesel gate thing it quietly changed the 2016 x5 to 24 mpg.

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by MB21

It is confirmed by BMW it is not about what speed I want to go but what I was promised when I purchased the car, it is one of the car specifications which is not being met

If I understand correctly you will never purchase another BMW because of a feature you will never utilize not being available? Are you trying to get them to do a buy-back based on this claim? If they unlock the limiter and make it go above 155mph what will that change outside of being given what was promised?

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by MB21

It is confirmed by BMW it is not about what speed I want to go but what I was promised when I purchased the car, it is one of the car specifications which is not being met

You are right and a lot of class action lawsuits are started for less.

[iconoclast]

Then dismissed as frivolous?

[MystroX5]

There are a lot of safety features on the 2019 G05 that were not active yet were show to be working in all the crash test videos to get their 5 star rating.
Brake intervention at parking lot speeds is one big one. When every $30k car will automatically apply its brakes not let you back up into a obstacle, the X5 will alert you but let you run into anything you like. Trouble is, BMW advertises this brake intervention working like every other car but it doesn’t. I was furious about this even working with my dealership and was implied it would be included in a firmware update. Not yet and probably never will be. That is a major class action lawsuit if you back up and run over the family dog or worse.

[MB21]

Originally Posted by exokiss

While it has not been embraced in the United States as of yet, many drivers are already using portable devices that pick up the speed limit data and warn a driver when they are going faster than it allows. Nothing new under the roof.

What I think is happening with the speed limitations is, the EU and all automakers are in their final phases aligning their marketing and production strategies towards the upcoming industry changes scheduled for 2022.

I really doubt BMW neglected nor intentionally took away from their fans the fury for speed. It's all planned. However, I do really believe that all these regulations, standards, and policies are made to be like a domino effect spreading throughout the entire automobile industry, and for sure, I'd say triggered by some people in...Washington, DC.

https://etsc.eu/etsc-welcomes-provis...ety-standards/

This is not about if they did or not it is about that they I informed, keep informing now claiming that 2021 will indeed have 155 mph limiter. So it is about the trust that fund have in the spec of BMW which apparently are false.

[MB21]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

There are a lot of safety features on the 2019 G05 that were not active yet were show to be working in all the crash test videos to get their 5 star rating.
Brake intervention at parking lot speeds is one big one. When every $30k car will automatically apply its brakes not let you back up into a obstacle, the X5 will alert you but let you run into anything you like. Trouble is, BMW advertises this brake intervention working like every other car but it doesn't. I was furious about this even working with my dealership and was implied it would be included in a firmware update. Not yet and probably never will be. That is a major class action lawsuit if you back up and run over the family dog or worse.

It does work when you turn it on, the problem is that can not get out of my garage while backing off as the car is keep breaking on me... so this feature need some work

[MB21]

Originally Posted by toddwalton

I am heartbroken and deserve reparations as I was so looking forward to taking my $100,000 luxury truck up to 165 MPH on roads that max at 65 MPH speed limits, your honor.

I think you completely missing the point, it is not about driving at those speed but being able per manufacturer specs.
For years VW diesel users enjoyed "low mileage" in USA until someone discovered that this is all only on paper. Here we have automaker who writes in their specs car parameter, while this one I agree for most is hard to check it is a spec, and does not matter if you use it or not should be delivered

By the way if you planing to go 165mph at 65mph zone then I agree you should be locked to 100MPh just put some logic...

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by MB21

It does work when you turn it on, the problem is that can not get out of my garage while backing off as the
car is keep breaking on me... so this feature need some work

Not on early 2019 X5’s. We had a group of us test it on tents and couch cushions throughout the year and after each firmware without any success. It was never given as a option to activate in the menu even with fully loaded models in 2019. I am not sure if the X5 has shown it to work on 2020 models? There were a couple fender benders in the driveway of new members that should have been avoided if the brake intervention worked. I have yet to test my X7 with my Barbie pop up tent I use to test safety features.

[MB21]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Not on early 2019 X5’s. We had a group of us test it on tents and couch cushions throughout the year and after each firmware without any success. It was never given as a option to activate in the menu even with fully loaded models in 2019. I am not sure if the X5 has shown it to work on 2020 models? There were a couple fender benders in the driveway of new members that should have been avoided if the brake intervention worked. I have yet to test my X7 with my Barbie pop up tent I use to test safety features.

Oh ok I was saying about X7, it works I think but every time I was backing from garage would apply breaks, so I switched off

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by MB21

Oh ok I was saying about X7, it works I think but every time I was backing from garage would apply breaks, so I switched off

That is good to know. I would rather turn it off if too sensitive and turn it on when on vacation and hectic environments etc...

[mjr24]

I don't understand this thread. You have no business going 155 in a non-M car....let alone a fucking X7. Those are the speeds where the difference between a real M and the "M" 50i or whatever you call those become very obvious.

They also underrate their engines so you are getting more power than you were promised.....sue them for that, too (eye roll).

[stockguru]

Interesting thread but surprised no one has asked the inverse question. Why does bmw advertise that option if they don't expect anyone to want it or test it?

If you say the car goes 0-60 in 5.3 sec then you can't blame someone for trying to achieve that.

If you say the car can achieve 155 mph if you get this option, then why blame someone that gets that option as crazy for wanting to verify it?

If it's unsafe or not achievable then don't advertise it. If you advertise it, then it better be true or you should expect a lawsuit.

Bmw should know better. They take away features in the US all the time for fear of lawsuit. We weren't allowed to close our trunks from the inside button for years when European deliveries could. We can't close our windows, trunks or Sunroof with the key fob when other countries can but then they offer an option to drive 155 mph? I'm shocked this was even in the materials.
Closing the window is too dangerous but with bigger tires/ wheels going 155 in a big boat is apparently not a concern for them.

[09elphant]

MB21, I'm curious... I have the same problem with backing out of garage and car stops... What button did you press to defeat that option? I pressed the button on the dash and hold it for at least 3 seconds to disable all drive assist features and X7 still stops while backing out... Neighbors must think I'm nuts... lol I figure I could go into the vehicle settings and stop it, but that would be a PITA to do daily, as I like to keep it on during daily driving...

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by mjr24

I don't understand this thread. You have no business going 155 in a non-M car....let alone a fucking X7. Those are the speeds where the difference between a real M and the "M" 50i or whatever you call those become very obvious.

They also underrate their engines so you are getting more power than you were promised.....sue them for that, too (eye roll).

In a “non M car?” You must be joking. How does a M make it so much more capable of such higher speeds? A M760i,M850i, etc. isn’t a full M car yet it does just fine. In fact they are rock solid and composed just like a X7 M50i as shown on YouTube videos. Adaptive Cruise Control is active up to 129mph. That’s a autonomous lane keeping assist at 125mph all day long. These are high speed autobahn intended vehicles regardless of it is a full M or not. High speed stability and safety is determined by tire ratings. Put AS tires on a M5 Comp and it will be limited to 130mph by the manufacturer.
Yea, I also own a M Comp and understand it’s superior handling in the twisties but stiffer spring rates don’t equal higher speed superior handling.

The X7 M50i couldn’t be any more rock solid or composed at 160mph.

[unfoundnemo]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

In a “non M car?” You must be joking. How does a M make it so much more capable of such higher speeds? A M760i,M850i, etc. isn’t a full M car yet it does just fine. In fact they are rock solid and composed just like a X7 M50i as shown on YouTube videos. Adaptive Cruise Control is active up to 129mph. That’s a autonomous lane keeping assist at 125mph all day long. These are high speed autobahn intended vehicles regardless of it is a full M or not. High speed stability and safety is determined by tire ratings. Put AS tires on a M5 Comp and it will be limited to 130mph by the manufacturer.
Yea, I also own a M Comp and understand it’s superior handling in the twisties but stiffer spring rates don’t equal higher speed superior handling.

The X7 M50i couldn’t be any more rock solid or composed at 160mph.

I can certainly feel a big difference at high speeds between the X7 and my M car, but that's really comparing apples to monkeys. Without an X7M, I would think the differences between the X5 M50i vs X5M would offer more insight and show a decent gap here between the two.

I could say it's the weight and higher center of gravity that's determining factors for me, but I'd imagine the upgraded chasis and suspension components you get in the full M variant of the X5 would make that car feel muuuuch more planted at speed... assuming you're using the same tires of course.

[stockguru]

Hopefully he also knows how to close his windows with the key fob properly without injuring anyone.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

In a “non M car?” You must be joking. How does a M make it so much more capable of such higher speeds? A M760i,M850i, etc. isn’t a full M car yet it does just fine. In fact they are rock solid and composed just like a X7 M50i as shown on YouTube videos. Adaptive Cruise Control is active up to 129mph. That’s a autonomous lane keeping assist at 125mph all day long. These are high speed autobahn intended vehicles regardless of it is a full M or not. High speed stability and safety is determined by tire ratings. Put AS tires on a M5 Comp and it will be limited to 130mph by the manufacturer.
Yea, I also own a M Comp and understand it’s superior handling in the twisties but stiffer spring rates don’t equal higher speed superior handling.

The X7 M50i couldn’t be any more rock solid or composed at 160mph.

The US isn't the Autobahn....and rest assured if you were going that fast you better be prepared to switch lanes quick due to other drivers being stupid.....wouldn't want to be doing that in a non-M car let alone a X7.

Also, M760 and M850's are nice.....but they still aren't real M cars.

[Wild Blue]

Oh, how I do love the autobahn.

[Resjudicata]

I don't even know why this is a tread. A simple ECU tune will unlock more power and an unlimited top speed.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Resjudicata

I don't even know why this is a tread. A simple ECU tune will unlock more power and an unlimited top speed.

Yup, this engine is a monster unleashed if you want.