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      07-20-2022, 11:30 PM   #1
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Leaky Cup holder issue fixed?

Hello, does anyone know if MY2022 has the issue of the moisture leaking from the cup holders and causing air bag issues been fixed? We just picked up ours with hot cool cup holders and worried if we will have spontaneous airbag deployment when enjoying my favorite cold drink coasting down the highway ! Thanks in advance.
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If you like very cold drinks, they’re going to sweat, and unfortunately in an X7, that means you’re going to have to put up with a few unwanted airbag deployments.

It sounds bad, but in reality, it’s not that big of a deal. If the airbags deploy, you can’t really see so you need to immediately brake heavily and with any luck you won’t hit anything. The good news is if you do hit something, your airbags are already deployed so it’s even safer than usual.

Assuming you avoid a collision, you’ll still need to have the car towed to a dealer to have the airbags reset. It’s sometimes inconvenient but it’s totally worth it to own an X7.
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Just to be clear, I’m kidding. There isn’t, and never was an issue with the cup holder design.

Like most cars, the X7 has a ton of electronic stuff going on around the transmission tunnel between the driver and passenger. If you spill your big gulp on those electronics, it’s going to be a problem. A couple of people have managed to do this and of course they’ve fried some electronics. Because spilling a drink on expensive electronic components couldn’t possibly be their own responsibility, they’ve decided the best course of action is to post on a forum about why the damage they did to their cars is actually BMWs fault.
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I've already filed a complaint with BMWUSA about my stainless steel insulated mug not functioning properly with the cup heater/cooler. My mug keeps hot liquids hot and cold liquids cold (yeah, how does it know?). I think the heater/cooler is a bit gimmicky - likely will never use.
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Just to be clear, I’m kidding. There isn’t, and never was an issue with the cup holder design.
There are multiple points of data that suggest your statement isn't correct, including a class action lawsuit.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43586/...rigger-airbags

https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...leak+cupholder
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There are multiple points of data that suggest your statement isn't correct, including a class action lawsuit.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43586/...rigger-airbags

https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...leak+cupholder
Well this is right from the lawyer's website and the verbiage states "spills" so really who should be held liable? We're just a suing everyone for everything country anyways.

"The cup holders in the Class Vehicles, allegedly, are designed defectively, because they are not designed, nor intended, to actually hold cups filled with liquid. When liquid spills into the cup holder, the wires for the SRS Airbag Control Module get wet and damage the air bags."
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There are multiple points of data that suggest your statement isn't correct, including a class action lawsuit.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43586/...rigger-airbags

https://g07.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...leak+cupholder
Anyone can file a law suit for anything. If you spill a bunch of liquid into a part of a car that houses electronics, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect there would be damage. I do think it’s unreasonable that people would sue a vehicle manufacturer over not waterproofing electronics on the interior of a car to protect them from their own clumsiness.
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      07-21-2022, 08:09 AM   #8
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Drinking and driving has always been a dangerous pastime, but this is next level.

If you read the previous bimmerpost thread referenced above, the spill was rather minimal and as a result of a leaky cup. Could happen to anyone with no clumsiness involved whatsoever. Ever have a full drink in a cup holder and go over a bump? What happens? It spills. Yes, shame on you for putting a cup with liquid in a cupholder.

It’s clearly a design flaw that they have presumably opted to treat on a case by case basis rather than a wholesale recall since it’s more cost effective.

Corporations often don’t make the right decision until they’re forced to. Nobody has been hurt from this yet, so unless they’ve made alterations in subsequent model years they haven’t made public then it’s something to keep in mind when drinking and driving (maybe chat with the mechanic at your local dealer to see if they’ve noticed any differences between model years). I’m glad I know about it and will no be crazy anal about cups and spills when I get my X7 in a few weeks.
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I am not here to argue whether that class action has merit. Just showing to the OP that there is "maybe" some "issues" with the cupholders.

No one on this forum can honestly say they have never spilled something into a cupholder before. A quick spill that you clean up is obviously different than a overnight leaking cup (as described in the post I linked). Either way, at least to me, I am extra cautious/concerned about spilled liquids into the cupholder of my BMW's, as it obviously could cause significant damage.

IMO, the average person would assume spilling a liquid into a cupholder wouldn't lead to damage, unlike spilling a liquid onto the non-cupholder portion of the center console/dash.
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I like to only use bottled water like containers for trips. The cooled function works better with plastic anyway and I really like the comfort of having a lid. Let’s face it the Germans hate having to have cup holders in their cars. 30 years of 911 vehicles and every cup holder was really a drink “launcher” by design to punish their owners for such transgressions.
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I think my biggest concern is condensation and on occasion at the drive thru they give you a cup that has drink around it from a spill and we put in without properly checking. We have only had one time we're we spilled in a cup holder when the cup was defective. My thought is even if you didn't spill and there is humidity and it is cold, would moisture not build underneath like on the outside of our ac duct at the house?
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I am not here to argue whether that class action has merit. Just showing to the OP that there is "maybe" some "issues" with the cupholders.

No one on this forum can honestly say they have never spilled something into a cupholder before. A quick spill that you clean up is obviously different than a overnight leaking cup (as described in the post I linked). Either way, at least to me, I am extra cautious/concerned about spilled liquids into the cupholder of my BMW's, as it obviously could cause significant damage.

IMO, the average person would assume spilling a liquid into a cupholder wouldn't lead to damage, unlike spilling a liquid onto the non-cupholder portion of the center console/dash.

I can say I have never spilled a beverage in my X5 cup holders yet had this issue fry the electronic gear shift yesterday. Had it less than a week, though I did use the cooling cup holders on some soda cans. I find it ridiculous that there is anyone out there that would try to argue that cup holders shouldn’t be able to get wet. It is an obvious engineering flaw. My car became entirely non operational, couldn’t even get it into neutral for the tow truck. Shouldn’t be possible. Period. Hadn’t even bought a tank of gas and I’m out 1600$ because BMW won’t cover it despite knowing all about it.
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I think my biggest concern is condensation and on occasion at the drive thru they give you a cup that has drink around it from a spill and we put in without properly checking. We have only had one time we're we spilled in a cup holder when the cup was defective. My thought is even if you didn't spill and there is humidity and it is cold, would moisture not build underneath like on the outside of our ac duct at the house?
I've driven my X7 53,000 miles, yet I have sat in that seat way more hours than that would lead you to believe (car line, waiting for kids, etc…usually 4 hours a day for the last 3.5 years). And just about every one of those hours, there was a cup in that holder. Sometimes a paper cup, frequently metal, sometimes styrofoam. Always with a lid. I've occasionally had liquid spill in there. Never has my airbag deployed. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Someone needs to invent a thin liner than can be placed in both cupholders. Yes, this is indeed stupid that this even needs to be brought up.
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I think my biggest concern is condensation and on occasion at the drive thru they give you a cup that has drink around it from a spill and we put in without properly checking. We have only had one time we're we spilled in a cup holder when the cup was defective. My thought is even if you didn't spill and there is humidity and it is cold, would moisture not build underneath like on the outside of our ac duct at the house?
I've driven my X7 53,000 miles, yet I have sat in that seat way more hours than that would lead you to believe (car line, waiting for kids, etc…usually 4 hours a day for the last 3.5 years). And just about every one of those hours, there was a cup in that holder. Sometimes a paper cup, frequently metal, sometimes styrofoam. Always with a lid. I've occasionally had liquid spill in there. Never has my airbag deployed. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
That's reassuring, thank you for sharing …
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I liner would limit the heating/cooling performance and will add a temperature resistance. You wouldn’t believe how much temperature gradient a tiny pocket of air may cause. Any sort of liner will cause a very poor performance. An ideal liner would have to match 100% the ID of the cup holder assembly and must be made from glass or metal. Otherwise it will really impact performance. The ideal solution is a completely new re-design! Anything else will end up with a useless cooling/heating cup holders (it barely works anyway)!.

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