[U235]

So you get three oil changes? Is that basically inclusive of all scheduled maintenance. Obviously if you need new brakes, that’s wear and tear, but are there other needs like brake fluid, transmission fluid, etc? I’d assume it’s inclusive of everything BMW recommends?

We don’t drive a lot of miles, and we use a lot of engine braking and are generally easy on our brakes. What life are people getting out of brakes on these X7s?

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by U235

So you get three oil changes? Is that basically inclusive of all scheduled maintenance. Obviously if you need new brakes, that’s wear and tear, but are there other needs like brake fluid, transmission fluid, etc? I’d assume it’s inclusive of everything BMW recommends?

We don’t drive a lot of miles, and we use a lot of engine braking and are generally easy on our brakes. What life are people getting out of brakes on these X7s?

oops, three changes, i was thinking in of a 3 year lease, but you need to get the changes done basically on the in service date to get 3.

brake fluid is every 3 years
transmission fluid is lifetime
as is coolant
the maintenance isnt very comprehensive anymore

[thenew3]

Originally Posted by ddno1

thenew3 : How has your experience been so far? Any feedback on the process?

My car is only 2 years old so it's still under factory warranty. I haven't had to use the extended warranty so can't tell you my experience with it.

[U235]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

oops, three changes, i was thinking in of a 3 year lease, but you need to get the changes done basically on the in service date to get 3.

brake fluid is every 3 years
transmission fluid is lifetime
as is coolant
the maintenance isnt very comprehensive anymore

Thanks. If brake fluid is at 3 years, wouldn't that be on the "3rd free service". Presumably service 1 is at 1 year mark, 2 at 2, 3 at 3?

[Bigrahizzle]

Where does all these plans fall for people who only drive 5-7k a year. I'm still looking at maintenance plans but not sure what to get if anything. I'll most likely get the extended warranty later and probably thru geico

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by U235

Thanks. If brake fluid is at 3 years, wouldn't that be on the "3rd free service". Presumably service 1 is at 1 year mark, 2 at 2, 3 at 3?

yup. the oil changes are when the mileage counter hits zero, or 1 year from the in service date.
brake fluid is time based, 3 years from the inservice date
oil changes are time or cbs countdown based, with the last one 3 years from the inservice date. the thing with the oil changes, if you are hitting them based on time, you need to get the last one scheduled in before the 3 year anniversary to get it for free, not necessarily a year after oil change #2

[U235]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

yup. the oil changes are when the mileage counter hits zero, or 1 year from the in service date.
brake fluid is time based, 3 years from the inservice date
oil changes are time or cbs countdown based, with the last one 3 years from the inservice date. the thing with the oil changes, if you are hitting them based on time, you need to get the last one scheduled in before the 3 year anniversary to get it for free, not necessarily a year after oil change #2

Understood, so basically make sure your first two scheduled visits occur BEFORE the anniversary date.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by U235

Understood, so basically make sure your first two scheduled visits occur BEFORE the anniversary date.

you have leeway, i believe its a week, but if you skew too much, the last one ends up outside of the plan coverage

so lets say you do year 1 oil change 1 week after your anniversary date, then year two a few days after the 1 year of change #1, #3 falls outside of the leeway and isnt covered.

[U235]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

you have leeway, i believe its a week, but if you skew too much, the last one ends up outside of the plan coverage

so lets say you do year 1 oil change 1 week after your anniversary date, then year two a few days after the 1 year of change #1, #3 falls outside of the leeway and isnt covered.

How early can you schedule a service? Like if it says "Service due in 60 days", how soon will BMW let you bring it in? My Volvo had either a 30-60 day grace period, meaning you could bring it in that many days BEFORE the actual date. The Volvo reminds you to book service 60 days out.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by U235

How early can you schedule a service? Like if it says "Service due in 60 days", how soon will BMW let you bring it in? My Volvo had either a 30-60 day grace period, meaning you could bring it in that many days BEFORE the actual date. The Volvo reminds you to book service 60 days out.

i think its plus or minus a week if time based
mileage based i think if its under 1000 miles
dont quote me on the latter as i've never hit an oil service based on mileage.

[timmyjd]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

its oil changes plus 1 filter (micro and engine) change and 1 brake fluid change.
so two oil changes, two filters and a brake fluid change.

in terms of extended warranty, im rolling the dice with geico mechanical break down insurance. covers everything but maintenance, wear items, and abuse. 250 deductible. cost is ~350 a year, needs to be added to my policy before the car is 15 months old/ 15K miles. they will cover up to 7 years 100K miles.
in theory it should cost ~2100-2450 for 7 years as you have to start coverage no later than 15 months depending on if you start it day 1 or wait a year.
its an exclusionary policy

Exclusions to this policy include regular maintenance services such as tune-ups, suspension alignment, wheel balancing, filters, lubrication, coolant and fluids, spark plugs, brake pads and linings, brake shoes, and tires. Also, breakdown repairs made necessary by intentional damage, corrosion, misuse, or improper maintenance are not covered. Mechanical Breakdown Insurance coverage is in excess of coverage provided by your manufacturer's warranty. Read the policy amendment for the complete terms and conditions of this coverage.

i asked them directly if all electrical and electronics systems are covered and they confirmed in writing that they are.
looks to be about comparable to the bmw platinum coverage

downside is, i have to keep using them as my insurance carrier, but i have been with them for 15 years without issue.

I have to say I didn't regret getting my 7/75 aftermarket extended warranty (with Zurich) on my last car (F06) in 2013. I recouped its cost after 2 out of 4 repairs between years 5-7. Dealer honored the coverage (with a loaner) especially when I reminded them that I bought the coverage from them. The repairs usually had a 1-2 day delay to have Zurich approve the repairs but they approved it each time. I had a $100 deductible.

I might do the same with my upcoming purchase, but will shop around and buy from a dealer that had good reviews for selling these on one of the forums.

I also keep a good experienced/honest mechanic handy, but the convenience of a loaner when you don't have alternative commuting means is hard to beat, and you don't get that with a mechanic.

[awesoM]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

its oil changes plus 1 filter (micro and engine) change and 1 brake fluid change.
so two oil changes, two filters and a brake fluid change.

in terms of extended warranty, im rolling the dice with geico mechanical break down insurance. covers everything but maintenance, wear items, and abuse. 250 deductible. cost is ~350 a year, needs to be added to my policy before the car is 15 months old/ 15K miles. they will cover up to 7 years 100K miles.
in theory it should cost ~2100-2450 for 7 years as you have to start coverage no later than 15 months depending on if you start it day 1 or wait a year.
its an exclusionary policy

Exclusions to this policy include regular maintenance services such as tune-ups, suspension alignment, wheel balancing, filters, lubrication, coolant and fluids, spark plugs, brake pads and linings, brake shoes, and tires. Also, breakdown repairs made necessary by intentional damage, corrosion, misuse, or improper maintenance are not covered. Mechanical Breakdown Insurance coverage is in excess of coverage provided by your manufacturer's warranty. Read the policy amendment for the complete terms and conditions of this coverage.

i asked them directly if all electrical and electronics systems are covered and they confirmed in writing that they are.
looks to be about comparable to the bmw platinum coverage

downside is, i have to keep using them as my insurance carrier, but i have been with them for 15 years without issue.

Will it affect your insurance rate if you start filing claims? Or is this a separate policy per se.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by awesoM

Will it affect your insurance rate if you start filing claims? Or is this a separate policy per se.

separate policy

[DancyQ]

Can you get the extended maintenance plan without purchasing the extended warranty? I was thinking about getting the extended maintenance plan including wear and tear stuff and make a decision on extended warranty later before factory warranty expires? Would this be a reasonable approach? Thanks in advance.

[awesoM]

Originally Posted by DancyQ

Can you get the extended maintenance plan without purchasing the extended warranty? I was thinking about getting the extended maintenance plan including wear and tear stuff and make a decision on extended warranty later before factory warranty expires? Would this be a reasonable approach? Thanks in advance.

Yes you can.

[nicboy]

Where do you go for getting the extend warranty with a used car over 3 years? Will dealer still sell the warranty?

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by nicboy

Where do you go for getting the extend warranty with a used car over 3 years? Will dealer still sell the warranty?

There are several companies out there that will offer a warranty on a used car. Google is your friend…..

[Bigrahizzle]

Do you guys think the first three are worth it? I know I have asked this before but I only drive 5-7k per year so I'm not sure if I need the service maintenance plan. As for the extended warranty I maybe switch to Geico and go they there. On the fence about wheel and tire warranty.

I just picked up the car today and told the guy to give me some time to think since it's too much all at once and I want to do some homework

[M3JHWK]

Originally Posted by Bigrahizzle

Do you guys think the first three are worth it? I know I have asked this before but I only drive 5-7k per year so I'm not sure if I need the service maintenance plan. As for the extended warranty I maybe switch to Geico and go they there. On the fence about wheel and tire warranty.

I just picked up the car today and told the guy to give me some time to think since it's too much all at once and I want to do some homework

Is it just me, or is the quote for the tinting exorbitantly high?

[jmciver]

Ok, Bigrahizzle you might want to put your flame suit on when getting ready for some of the replies you might get. I suspect there may be some "brutally honest" feedback regarding the info you posted on this purchase. So here is my brutally honest $.02….

The dealer is up selling the CRAP out of you on things you either don't need or can get someplace else with the same quality and a better price. Starting with the extra warranties, including the tire warranty, I say pass. Based on how much you say you drive, the probability of you needing them seems very low. As for the extra maintenance plan (that includes a few brake changes), you don't drive enough to make it worth it IMHO. But even if you did need a brake job, they are not that expensive considering you can afford an X7 in the first place (but I get the fact that no one likes a car repair bill regardless of income bracket - I am no different ).

As far as all that other stuff like dent repair, key replacement, PPF, etc - dump all of that crap. While it would suck to loose a key as they are expensive to replace - when is the last time that happened to you? And dent repair? Why pay up front for something you may never need, and if you ever do need it, you can get it at a substantially cheaper price if/when the time comes.

As far as the tint and PPF are concerned, the dealer just contracts out those services to a local shop (and up charges you for it). Do a bit of research in your area (you can use the regional forums here as well) to find out about good tint and PPF shops in your area. And what is that Cilajet crap, a ceramic coating? It doesn't specifically say it is a ceramic coating (it says sealant, which is much different) and even the best ceramic coatings on the market don't last up to ten years. And all coatings require maintenance (i.e. routine washing at least a few times a month, and not at automatic car washes either) to help them last. As far as LoJack is concerned, BMW already has this security/vehicle finding tech built into the X7 (and all BMWs) with BMW Assist that is included for the first 3yrs/36k miles IIRC - and does not cost much to continue the service once the initial included period is over.

I know the "lure" of rolling these things into your loan may make some financial sense depending on your financial situation and how you want to pay for your new X7. But you should not let the dealer pile a bunch of crap on to the price of your car that you either don't really need or you can get elsewhere for a much better price. These are classic dealer tactics to pad their profits. So if it were me, I would not pay for any of that crap, not even if they "discount" it a bit. But again, just my $.02….

Good Luck!

[Overtaxed]

Originally Posted by M3JHWK

Is it just me, or is the quote for the tinting exorbitantly high?

To the point of absurdity. If that's marked up that high, makes me wonder how badly priced the rest of the options are.

even the best ceramic coatings on the market don't last up to ten years

Not even close. As mentioned in another thread, ceramic coating a new car is really quite easy. It will last awhile, but I've never seen anything go beyond the 3 year mark. The stuff you can get at home and apply is typically good for 1-2 years (I use a carbon ceramic coating on my cars, it's about 150 bucks for enough to do ~3 cars).

[Orient330iNYC]

all of the warranties you can purchase as long as you are still covered under the factory warranty. you have 3 years to decide for the maintenance, and 4 years for the warranty.

all of the other stuff is horribly overpriced.
tint, xpel will only sell through their authorized dealers and there's exclusivity agreements, so its not going to be hard to find out who they use. there will be only one authorized dealer within X distance.

https://www.xpel.com/clearbra-instal...rginia/fairfax
pretty sure thats who they use for tint and ppf. i would read their reviews and contact them directly. in NYC a high end ceramic tint on all windows is under 1K and thats including the pano roof.