[BigNorm4Life]

Lol… Sportiness aside

Bentayga and Cullinan owners are laughing at this stupid argument about luxury

Majority on this forum have Fu** you money anyway… just buy and drive what you like

[Luminor513]

Originally Posted by BigNorm4Life

Lol… Sportiness aside

Bentayga and Cullinan owners are laughing at this stupid argument about luxury

Majority on this forum have Fu** you money anyway… just buy and drive what you like

Not sure where you came up with this conclusion. I don’t think anyone is arguing that both X7 and RR are both luxurious. Majority on this forum are not F you money, likely some but not majority. Going back to the topic of this thread, there is a huge difference in MONTHLY cost associated with X7 vs Range Rover if your planning to lease. In our case, I was looking at over 1300/mo in cost difference due to how well the X7 leases. That’s not something I’m willing to disregard. Maybe you have F you money, I have other responsibilities which still guide my decisions.

[Luminor513]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Another factor we have not discussed but in my rural part of the North East, there are so many older Range Rovers at used Kia bargain price points that they are everywhere like old Navigators or Escalades. These are always at rock bottom prices at every semi low end 3rd party car sales lot obviously purchased stupid cheap at auction. I can’t tell you how many pimped out Range Rovers I see adorned with AutoZone aftermarket parts and unique wheel choices the kids are driving.
The BMW X7 is still so new that they have not yet shown their long term resale value yet or even trickled down much to the secondary market of any volume. Considering the X7 came out in 2019, I still don’t see another one in my area unlike X3’s and a few more G05 X5’s.

Very true. I haven’t seen any Autozone hooked up X7’s yet, hopefully not for another decade lol. Down here in south Florida X7’s far outnumber RR simply because leasing programs on X7’s make them signifcantly more attainable than RR. Majority around here still lease these luxo family SUV’s.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Another factor we have not discussed but in my rural part of the North East, there are so many older Range Rovers at used Kia bargain price points that they are everywhere like old Navigators or Escalades. These are always at rock bottom prices at every semi low end 3rd party car sales lot obviously purchased stupid cheap at auction. I can’t tell you how many pimped out Range Rovers I see adorned with AutoZone aftermarket parts and unique wheel choices the kids are driving.
The BMW X7 is still so new that they have not yet shown their long term resale value yet or even trickled down much to the secondary market of any volume. Considering the X7 came out in 2019, I still don’t see another one in my area unlike X3’s and a few more G05 X5’s.

This is a factor. Although around DC area, checking on Car Guru a used Range Rover or used X7 - like for like models are very close in used prices, with the Range Rovers being a couple of thousands more and usually mileage on the Range Rovers are higher than the X7.

Also, if anything based on my quick look the X7s were on dealer lots longer and there are 27 X7 and 33 Range Rovers available within 50 miles.

I personally would take a fully loaded X7 M50i over a Range Rover. But plenty of people I know would take the Range Rover. I agree with Matt in the review, the Range Rover feel special to him, he wants it, but he has to be objective and the X7 is better!

Luxury is about how something makes you feel…IMHO.

Not arguing since to each his own. I tried very hard to discourage my wife from buying her iX 50i. But in the end it has worked out well for her. I am sure some people hate it and she gets asked all the time why she got it over a Tesla. But that is OK. It is human to like what we own…as long as you enjoy what you have, it’s all good 😊

[KRS_SN]

I'd take a pre lci x7 over either of these..
but yeah x7 over Range rover every single time..not a fan of box on wheels design. Also like cars that are long lasting and easy to own post warranty period and not just produced with just about enough quality and reliability to get through the first few warrantied years of life.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by Penguino

The X7 will never be as quiet as a RR.
The RR will never ride as sporty as an X7.

Except that X7 is quieter inside than Range Rover.

According to Car and Driver, X7 is quieter than every other SUV (Inlcuding the real ‘RR’ - Rolls Royce) except for Bentley Bentayga.

According to Matt Watson in this review, it’s the same. He says X7 is quieter and more comfortable than Range Rover.

[Penguino]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Except that X7 is quieter than RR.

Not in a million years.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by FCX5

I don’t know of anyone who considers BMW a higher end luxury brand than Range Rover.

I do. Especially if you include in this luxury element all the undercarriage components and all the hidden parts...

[samX7]

Originally Posted by Penguino

Not in a million years.

You realize you’re saying no to a proven fact?

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

I do. Especially if you include in this luxury element all the undercarriage components and all the hidden parts...

These are just opinions. For instance US News ranks Land Rover over BMW as a luxury brand. So for someone like you, there are others that differ. Reading this forum one would think Range Rovers such. Even in this review, Matt said they were close…again, I would pick the X7, but that does not mean the Range Rover is terrible…many prefer it.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...ury-car-brands

Here is their ranking…

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...ury-large-suvs

[littleyang]

These two brands are still selling the car with market share, which means that they are both luxury brands. The same configuration of Land Rover is more expensive than BMW, which also shows that Land Rover is more luxury than BMW . BMW is more driving brands by cost-effective. So no one can all win, just your choose.
I also believe this forum will be more support BMW since it is BMW forum（：

One of the main reasons I choose X7 is that lower buying and maintenance cost.

[Westy]

Originally Posted by EricJTsang

The RR is so way better looking on the outside and comes with the extra-ness of the RR name. Just my opinion, people love RR's. to me, Porsche and RR are like a quarter step above MB/Audi/BMW in terms of branding and the cost reflects that.

But, if you had to actually spend money on one, the BMW is objectively better, more usable, and more reliable.

This only proves how subjective the opinion is. I think the X7 is far far better looking. The RR has almost no design characteristics at all, it’s basically just a box with rounded corners, there’s no creativity about it at all!

Porsch, a step above - maybe slightly but depending on the model. RR, a step above, I think it’s a step down. Bad build, bad drive, no imagination m, bad reliability, it’s just boring - too many of them around. It’s what you do if you have money but no real idea what to spend it on!

[kalpak2015]

Majority of people are still sleeping on how good of a car X7 is. Now with LCI out,
Prices for pre-LCI dropping, I started seeing more and more soccer moms driving around schools and grocery markets in their X7s

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by FCX5

These are just opinions. For instance US News ranks Land Rover over BMW as a luxury brand. So for someone like you, there are others that differ. Reading this forum one would think Range Rovers such. Even in this review, Matt said they were close…again, I would pick the X7, but that does not mean the Range Rover is terrible…many prefer it.

I owned Jaguar not Land Rover or Range Rover. But in my circle I have friends that used to own them. All dump them. Actually one was even a legal matter due to quality.
Anyway, show me pictures with your RR undercarriage after 3-4 Canadian winters and I will show you the undercarriage of my daily BMW after 12 Canadian winters. Just have a look at a RR when is in front of you. Is usually red under.
Bmw anticorosive warranty is 12 years. RR is 6… That tells a lot.

Secondly, reliability wise, price wise and bang for the buck they are nowhere near BMW. Not to mention dynamics…
So yeah, BMW rules in many aspects over RR.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by littleyang

These two brands are still selling the car with market share, which means that they are both luxury brands. The same configuration of Land Rover is more expensive than BMW, which also shows that Land Rover is more luxury than BMW . BMW is more driving brands by cost-effective. So no one can all win, just your choose.
I also believe this forum will be more support BMW since it is BMW forum（：

One of the main reasons I choose X7 is that lower buying and maintenance cost.

Lol, more expensive doesn’t necessary mean more luxury.

[PinkNinja400Guy]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Except that X7 is quieter inside than Range Rover.

According to Car and Driver, X7 is quieter than every other SUV (Inlcuding the real ‘RR’ - Rolls Royce) except for Bentley Bentayga.

According to Matt Watson in this review, it’s the same. He says X7 is quieter and more comfortable than Range Rover.

People on the X7 forums pull out that C&D post all the time. That C&D post is not the smoking gun you think it is.

C&D noise measurements are just not that accurate. They're usually pretty close, but just because their numbers put the X7 below its competition doesn't mean the X7 is actually quieter.

I've personally driven ~10 cars that C&D has noise tested which is why I'm able to say that. Plus if you look at their charts there are some obvious mismeasurements. Like one of their AMG E class reviews having decibel numbers which show it as being a bit quieter than the X7 and A8 and S class. Or their numbers putting the X7 40i and [outgoing gen LCI] 745e on the same noise level, but having the 750 as much more loud, which is just plain wrong (you'd know if you drove the X7 40i and 750 back to back - they're about the same, 7 is perhaps just a bit quieter). Or putting the Honda Ridgeline and 2020 Toyota RAV4 at the same decibel level as these top luxury vehicles (S class / 7 / X7 / A8 / Q8).

The C&D numbers are usually pretty close, but when you narrow down to similar vehicles like the X7 and its competition, you can't use the C&D numbers to compare their noise levels. They're not accurate enough.

[itiongo]

I want in this argument too!!!! Hondas are higher class in luxury than X7s and RRs!!! This is why there are so many on the road!!!

[samX7]

Agreed!!! Matter of fact I actually see mostly bicycles so it must mean it’s more luxurious than a Rolls Royce!!

[littleyang]

Typical prejudice. Of course we can support BMW.

But it will be totally wrong if you say anyone else who pays more and doesn't buy a BMW but RR is an idiot.

[MystroX5]

This doesn’t have to be a pissing match at all. Both are players in the same full size top luxury SUV segment. Like choosing two top shelf liquors. One might go down smooth, the other might have you in the bathroom all night. Everyone is different.

[Homerus]

I had a Land Rover. I’ll never have another Land Rover.

[Tyriondo]

Originally Posted by Homerus

I had a Land Rover. I’ll never have another Land Rover.

I'm speechless.